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Ruger says all 77/22 are threaded now after 11-09

9.1K views 21 replies 15 participants last post by  WayneJessie  
#1 ·
Had a conversation with Ruger today asking about a new 77/22-R , blue & walnut, haveing block or threaded barrel as my daughter is looking to get a new 77/22R. The very nice lady did a double check & said all 77/22 & there other versions are all threaded after 11-09. Is this a superior system this new threaded barrel mount ...? & can aftermarket barrles still be an option even though they are now threaded. ?
Gina
 
#2 ·
The threaded

barrel should be a more ridged system and could produce more accuracy. But barrels differ and of course one would have to test various ammo to see which the gun favors. Most of the CZ owners report good accuracy with the threaded barrels CZ uses. I have a CZ 452 that is medocre with all ammo I have tried in it. Many different ones. But it has a sloppy chamber. If the new Rugers use a match or semi match chamber, they should be good shooters. I have a 1983 Rem. 541S with a tight match chamber and it is a very good shooter with many different ammo brands. But it does favor Eley and is Ok with Wolf ME. I also have a 2004 year 77/22 which could use a match chamber. Shoots about like my CZ 452. The Rem. has a pinned barrel like the Anschutz. The new CZ.s use a system of clamping the barrel instead of threading them. I think more like the 504 Rem uses. Barrel changes will probably require a gunsmith and cost much more than the most of the current aftermarket barrels for the 77/22. Of course the Lilja match barrels for the 10/22 and the pre threaded 77/22 are close to $400 with shipping. But usually you get what you pay for. Max
 
#4 ·
Not unless the user has

some gunsmithing knowledge and tools. First you will need a reciever wrench and a barrel clamp, plus headspace gages and the knowledge and ability to use them. I know of no current source for prethreaded barrels so one would need a lathe to turn the barrel shank and thread the barrels.. So the average owner will not be able to change barrels cheaply and easiily. Max
 
#7 ·
Sounds like Ruger is trying to maintain more control over their 10-22's so the public cannot work on them. They want them sent back to the factory for everything.
This along with poor QC is the reason I will never buy another Ruger.
Gunsmiths will be able to thread barrels and receivers, but it's going to cost you $$$ and put a lot of barrel manufacturers in a bind.
Thanks again Ruger. They keep proving that there is a good reason to buy other brands.
I've seen and heard some real horror stories on problems with new firearms. My Mini is back at Ruger getting 3 things fixed. I bought a new Tac rifle. I now wish I would have picked up omething else.

best regards, John K
 
#8 ·
Sounds like Ruger is trying to maintain more control over their 10-22's so the public cannot work on them. They want them sent back to the factory for everything.
This along with poor QC is the reason I will never buy another Ruger.
My Mini is back at Ruger getting 3 things fixed. I bought a new Tac rifle. I now wish I would have picked up omething else.

best regards, John K
I know one thing concerning Ruger Rifles. I bought one of their Ruger Ultra Light "Hawkeye" Model 77's in .308 and it is the WORSE Ruger model 77 I've ever bought!!:mad: Not only is the trigger pull way too heavy for a light weight rifle, inwhich I replaced it with a Timney trigger, but the bedding is poor making it a "shot walker" with groups as much a 3" @ 100 yards with all brands of ammo. I am now glass bedding it to see if it makes any difference. In addition I discovered the receiver is "Die Cast" and not "milled" like some of the older Ruger M-77. Wish I never bought it now.:(
 
#9 ·
To bad about the "Hawkeke",. With 3" groups why did you not send it back to ruger to work over..? They seem extremelly easy to deal with. We perposely bought the new threaded version of the 77/22 knowing this was what they are now doing & if it does't group, ... will be a great excuse to send it to Clark or Shilen, Shilen will put the works to it for about $580 for threaded version. I feel this move had nothing to do with anything other then a Ruger felt,... superiour way to mount action/barrel. Albiet loctite is much cheaper, then that is no gurantee. I would not worry about Ruger castings, they have been doing this for a long time & never heard of a RedHawk or any other falling apart. I am fairly sure most all Rugers are castings done exlusively by them.Fit & finish & function on the sample of new version of 77/22 my daughter just bought is excellent. Now just gotta see that it will really do & will post results. Just waiting for VX-3 4.5-14x40 AO to show up, then off to the races. I dought if Ruger will thread the 10/22's. I feel the only reason they went this way with 77/22 if because they were allready threading the "Hornet" & "44mag" version's.I never did ask,WHY they went threaded on all 77/22 versions, but would be intresting to here why, maybe another call is in order..?
G
 
#11 ·
I have a Ruger 223 tactical rifle and it is more accurate than the Remington XCR tactical long range that I used to have. I also have a 77 Hawkeye in 270 Win. w/ the green Hogue stock and it's also a great shooter. But then I reload my ammo so that helps alot. I have never had anything but great results when dealing w/ Ruger. Maybe I was just lucky, who knows. I knew they were gonna start threading the 77/22 barrels but didn't know they were also gonna do the 10/22s too.
 
#12 ·
I own one of the new threaded 77/22's in .22 WMR. It is horrible. Pretty much wasted $550, the rifle shoots 2.5" groups at 50 yards. As you might guess, I'm not too happy.

The rifle is at Shilen Rifles in Texas getting a new bull barrel fitted to the action, then pillar bedded. I should have it back in a week or two.

They cut me a deal and I sent my rifle in to them, it's the first new version they've seen.
 
#15 ·
Im shocked at ruger threading there barrels, whats next a new trigger design.I have 2 22mags and omg the time i spent working on those darn triggers. I like a light trigger. They both have VOLQ Barrels on them and only like to shoot Winchester Supreme black box ammo.Both shoot MOA, 5 shot groups at 100m. I have learned that its all in the barrel, spend the money and they will shoot. Ruger has always been known for bad barrels, if you get one that shoots your lucky. They should have invested in better quality barrels and a new trigger IMO. This goes for centerfire also, had to rebarrel those too. Still like them, there pertty but wont be buying another anytime soon.
 
#16 · (Edited)
LUCKY i guess .


My Ruger 10-22 target , my sr 22 , and and all 4 of my Ruger MKIII s i have had , my 77/22 mag , have all been great shooters . But i did a trigger job on my 77/22 mag and 10-22 target . No need for new barrels on any of them . :bthumb: Just don't see so many bad guns being made by Ruger . MY friends and i have a bunch of Rugers and I love my rugers , and have no regrets buying any of them .
 
#17 ·
??

No disrepect meant at all ok, but what do you consider a good shooter?I have friends who consider MO of pie plate at a 100m good. I guess thats ok if your shooting Elk at that dis. Dont get me wrong either, have had my share of problems with REMS, especially there skinny barrels. I guess im just mad at most of the rifle manufactures because i see the QC going down each year.Bums me out. Truth is, i only buy the actions now and build the rest from ground up and i pay a little more than oem but i get what i pay for. Thanks and have a great day.
 
#18 ·
Wow! Ive not seen one mfg. take this much of a beating on here since becoming a member! I must be one of the lucky folks.... I've got 3 77's in rimfire and two of the centerfires...both of them are 77 compact models one in 7mm-08 and one in .243 and I freakin' love me both. Yes both of em' needed triggers...big deal, CZ's all need triggers....unless its a 453...Savage Accu's arent that great either...everybody (pretty much) on this site floats the bbl or beds the action on just about everything they own.....give Ruger a chance to make it right....my rimfires all needed triggers one of em needed floated badly and they all three got bedded before I even tried to shoot em' in. Thats just what "we" do. What do I know though? Even after doin' all that I still went and bought a CZ!:eek:
 
#20 ·
there has always been a possible issue with barrel droop on the rugers when you floated them out all the way and then folks would run out of adjustment on their scopes or get pretty far to near end. now there are ways to work around all that but all in all for those who like a fully floated barrel i think the newer threaded design is going to put a lot of after market barrel makers out of buisness. i have haver had any issues with Rugers barrels as a whole. at least not with the ones they have been producing since going back and making their own in the early 90's. i realy think this threaded barrel modification by Ruger is the right choice. give the newer models some time and i think as more get out into the shooting comunity you will see more folks going to them. my .02 anyway.
 
#22 ·
I remember folk peeing and moaning cause the 77/22 DID NOT have a threaded barrel like some imports do. Now they do and folk are still peeing and moaning.

No ultra-light rifle is ever going to be a tack driver. It's just a fact that there is a trade-off for taking the weight off. Maybe 3" @ 100 yds is unacceptable for some. Better shy away from ultra-light hunting guns from any maker.