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Researching Mannlicher stocked 22's.

4.7K views 34 replies 23 participants last post by  lizardtrack  
#1 · (Edited)
I am researching Mannlicher stocked 22's S,L,LR or WMR. I will list the 22 rifles that I know of that have mannlicher stocks. I would appreciate anything that you can add to the list below. I hate to be picky, but I would prefer only regularly catalogued rifles. Please feel free to attach or email me pictures. Feel free to include any history that you know of.



TIA

Bob Riggins

Ruger 10/22
Ruger 77/22 (According to my RENE reference guide, no, Ruger never made one. From the Ruger forum)
Mossberg 340
Mossberg 640
Mossberg 42M
Mossberg 46M
Mossberg 51M
Mossberg 151M
H&R 755 Sahara
Savage 63M
Anschutz (I don't know the models feel free to add them)
 
#7 ·
What inspired you to take up this study?

How about PHOTOs of all these Mannlicher Stocked rifles???

I'm sure many of us would like to SEE all these interesing 22s.

Hows about it??

Thom T
Thom T

I will see what I can do. I have six of the ones mentioned. I will not have time before the weekend to get the camera out though. I guess the inspiration is the blued steel and nice wood look great together.

Bob
 
#13 ·
No I am not sure that they did. I saw one at the collectors firearms website a couple of years ago. When I decided to go back on line the next day and buy it, I was to late. Maybe it was a limited edition or an out and out custom stocked 77/22. With any luck somebody will see your post and let us know.

Bob Riggins
 
#19 ·
More Wood...

Hi AimSmall. I too am a full-wood lover, but I only collect .22rf single shots, made in U.S. or Canada, full-wood or NOT. Kinda' limits my available choices.

I finally obtained a very nice little H&R Sahara, and they are CUTE! Photo below.

Also, I'm NOT looking to add one of EVERY model. Really need only ONE specimen of each action type. Sahara is the bolt-action. So, I really shouldn't, BUT, I've been looking for a long time to buy one of those Savage 63.

I've got a short wood Ross 1912 straight-pull bolt, so now need to find a 1912 Cadet with full military wood. Here's a question regarding the name Mannlicher. Must the wood extend COMPLETELY to the muzzle to earn that title? There are some military style rifles that the wood comes VERY NEAR, but not quite to the muzzle.

Best regards from "The Gunshine State" ~ ~ ~ GGN

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#23 ·
Here's a question regarding the name Mannlicher. Must the wood extend COMPLETELY to the muzzle to earn that title? There are some military style rifles that the wood comes VERY NEAR, but not quite to the muzzle.
That's a question that caused me to rethink the term Mannlicher stock.

Steyr-Mannlicher company produced rifles that have 3"-4" of
barrel past the stock.

Is Mannlicher stock just a reference to
full stock guns? It shouldn't, because full stock guns were made
long before Steyr-Mannlicher came into existence.

Is there some specific feature of a full stock that qualifies
it as a Mannlicher stock?

????????,

AimSmall
 
#21 ·
That's What I'm Asking

SillyMike, that Savage 19NRA is the military-style wood. My question asks if THAT qualifies as a MANNLICHER, or MUST wood come all the way to the muzzle. Close in this case would NOT be like a hand grenade or a horseshoe - don't count. As I recall, all the ads for the old original Mannlichers back in the '50s had wood all the way to the muzzle.

I've got a couple of those 19NRAs in the herd, and I'll be letting them go to someone else's paature, since they are NOT single-shots. However, they are GREAT old guns!

The main one I'm interested in is my Winchester Model 85 Low Wall Winder Musket in .22short. Pic below. Sorry, but I've not had a chance to take more pics. This is pic furnished by the auction house I got it from some time ago. This one's 1918 govt training contract PRIOR to the signing of the Armistice so it is US marked and with Flaming Ordnance Bomb. Under lever drop block, not bolt-action

Best regards ~ ~ ~ GGN

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#22 ·
Thanks to everybody for the awesome pictures of your rifles. I have been busy this week, but I will dig out the digital camera this weekend and take pictures of my rifles.

GevarmGunNut & SillyMike. Your rifles are great and I really appreciate the information. The current project that I am working on will strictly be "Mannlichers" in the generic sense of the word that most people think of. Full stock to the end of the barrel.

However your posts have sparked another potential research project, "22 caliber Military Training Rifles". I had completely forgotten about the Ross and I guess the Cooey model 82 could be considered its cousin.

Please keep all information and pictures coming.

TIA

Bob Riggins
 
#25 ·
Chuck Hawks says:

The 1903 {Mannlicher} Carbine was manufactured only in 6.5x54 caliber, reportedly weighed about 5.5 pounds, and became the inspiration for what are today known as "mountain rifles." Its full length stock gave rise to the term "Mannlicher stock," which is still used today to describe a sporting rifle with a full length stock.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/m-s_carbine.htm

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#27 ·
Okay, Gang. If you want an excercise in frustration go to the various search engines (google, ask, etc.) and enter GLOSSARY OF FIREARMS TERMS. Good luck!!!

I just spent nearly an hour playing in that mud hole. As soon as you hit the M words you see the word MACHINEGUN and absolutely NO mention of Mannlicher; Mannlicher stock; Mannlicher-style; etc., ad nauseum...

I know there are some various gun guide type of books which include a Glossary and I'm going to have to do some searching. Personally I'd have the TWO "full-wood" types broken down as "Military Style" with 4" or less of barrel protruding from the wood forestock; and "Mannlicher Style" meaning wood comes all the way to the end of the barrel. That 4" I mention is just a personal thing. NOW, how about overall barrel lenth?

Would a rifle action with only a 10-12" barrel (sawed off, including the forestock - let's say for sake of argument) be considered "Mannlicher" stocked?

Just some garbage to think about. :bthumb:

Best regards from "The Gunshine State" ~ ~ ~ GGN

GUN CONTROL is NOT about guns; it's about CONTROL!
 
#31 ·
In any event I prefer the full stocked version in a rifle--Steyr, CZ and Sako have fine rifles in FS that are extremely accurate and heavenly balanced.
One may not like the appearance of the FS but I know of no one who broke down and bought one that ended up disappointed.
 
#32 ·
I he did then it was custom stocked

No Mannlicher Remingtons in .22lr I know of.

I think H&H (that would be H as in Hammerli, not Holland) offered some of their Martini actioned stalklers in a Mannlicher format, circa 1910 or thereabouts. Francotte might have, as well. You might want to search on that. I have an article on the H&H Martinis in an old Gun Digest (?). If I can locate it, I'll scan the picture.