Dear readers of Rimfirecentral,
my name is Alex and I am a German target shooter.
I am looking for a .22 bolt action rifle with a magazine (no sinlge shot rifles) that were used as military trainiers. I found some models that fulfill these requirements with the help of this forum.
However, most models are VERY expensive here in Germany. For example, my favourite model the Mauser/MAS 45 sells for +700€. They are even more expensive in France, even though they have more floating around on French gun websites (+900€).
Luckily, I came across a small little Russian rifle: The TOZ 17. As far as I know, these were used as military trainers. Egun.de (the German "gunbroker") lists one offer for only 99€, but it is a TOZ 17-01.
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6150899
I searched the forum for information on this model and it seems that the 17-01 series came later in the 70s and were never used as military trainers. Is that true? Are there any differences between 1950s TOZ 17 models and 1970s 17-01 models?
What can be said about the quality of the TOZ 17-01? Do they shot well on 50m using iron sights? How about the trigger?
I want to use it in matches in the class .22 "military trainer", however most people don't know ALL models of .22 military trainers. So, I am wondering, if i can sneek in with the TOZ 17-01 if it looks just like a TOZ17. Probably I won't win any prizes because they go to the single shot guys but that is not important for me.
I just despise single shots as very many bolt action guns were castrated to single shots here in Germany in former times and many milsurp rifles suffered this fate, too. No offense to single shot owners
Thank you very much for your help in advance and greetings from Germany!
my name is Alex and I am a German target shooter.
I am looking for a .22 bolt action rifle with a magazine (no sinlge shot rifles) that were used as military trainiers. I found some models that fulfill these requirements with the help of this forum.
However, most models are VERY expensive here in Germany. For example, my favourite model the Mauser/MAS 45 sells for +700€. They are even more expensive in France, even though they have more floating around on French gun websites (+900€).
Luckily, I came across a small little Russian rifle: The TOZ 17. As far as I know, these were used as military trainers. Egun.de (the German "gunbroker") lists one offer for only 99€, but it is a TOZ 17-01.
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=6150899
I searched the forum for information on this model and it seems that the 17-01 series came later in the 70s and were never used as military trainers. Is that true? Are there any differences between 1950s TOZ 17 models and 1970s 17-01 models?
What can be said about the quality of the TOZ 17-01? Do they shot well on 50m using iron sights? How about the trigger?
I want to use it in matches in the class .22 "military trainer", however most people don't know ALL models of .22 military trainers. So, I am wondering, if i can sneek in with the TOZ 17-01 if it looks just like a TOZ17. Probably I won't win any prizes because they go to the single shot guys but that is not important for me.
I just despise single shots as very many bolt action guns were castrated to single shots here in Germany in former times and many milsurp rifles suffered this fate, too. No offense to single shot owners
Thank you very much for your help in advance and greetings from Germany!