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Do you carry in local establishments?

2.6K views 80 replies 50 participants last post by  MilsurpShooter  
#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
In Kansas, we are fortunate to have a concealed carry law without a license. I have never used that right but now am considering it because some places have become targets of evil doings from random assailants.
I'm no hero but bound to defend myself and family wherever I go!
I have a NAA Mini Master 22 Mag with a behind-the-back leather holster that is fit for walking and shopping. Maybe tomorrow I'll give it a try.
 
#2 ·
We have an NAA in 22LR with upsize grips, cute but not my choice except for last ditch/get off me/etc. and that would realistically be iffy. For hardly any more size and weight you could have a Ruger 380 LCP with waayyy more rounds, beans, control and maybe now even a mini 9mm.
Consider your objective then pick a good to better/best tool for the job, not a minimum.
 
#5 ·
Since 1987, incident free.

Here's to keeping a perfect track record, perfect.

Started out with a Colt Commander in .45ACP. After years, switched to a 9MM Browning Hi-Power customized for optimal carrying. The ergonomics between the two are nearly identical and the function and feel are virtually the same.

God forbid my track record has to be broken, I'd rather not have anyone getting ... angry, just to be not capable of any more shenanigans.
 
#6 · (Edited)
In Kansas, we are fortunate to have a concealed carry law without a license. I have never used that right but now am considering it due to the simple fact Walmarts have become targets of evil doings from random assailants.
I'm no hero but bound to defend myself and family wherever I go!
I have a NAA Mini Master 22 Mag with a behind-the-back leather holster that is fit for walking and shopping. Maybe tomorrow I'll give it a try.
I open and conceal carry local all the time around here. My open carry “technically“ is mostly conceal without concern of weather or not my pistol can be seen. Just depends on time of year and how hot/cold it is.
im not sure how your laws are but here depending on signage you can get in trouble and Walmart has those signs up in Texas. Only licensed conceal in walmart in my town,so if you don’t have a LTC be sure to educate yourself of the do’s n don’ts , can and can’ts in your state or anywhere you plan to carry.

What i like about constitutional carry is Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Wyoming, Louisiana anyone that’s a citizen of those states can constitutional carry in All those states today. I carry in my vehicle in all those states just not sure of the individual nuances of each state so I don’t carry on my person in each of those states.
 
#7 ·
Been carrying since 94. Started with a Browning high power in 9mm. Then to a CZ75. And for the past 15 years it has been a G19 or G26 depending on which is at hand when getting dressed. I ALWAYS have a gun on my anytime I am awake. All day every day no matter where I am at. We can ignore the no gun signs here. They don't carry the force of law. All they can do is tell you to leave the property.
 
#8 · (Edited)
In Germany, it's very difficult, not to say close to impossible for the"normal" citizen to obtain a carry license.

You've got to prove that you're an especially endangered person (e. g. politicians, judges, jeweller), or have to carry professionally (security service, bodyguard, money transport), and in the second case most of the time the employer is the holder of the license, so that you only can carry while working.

And even If you're a legal civilian carrier, you may generally not carry at public events like fairs, carnival, festivals or concerts. If you're that endangered, you've either got to avoid these events, or take the risk unarmed.

An NAA revolver might be really easy to carry and conceal, but I would only consider this one as a backup to something more effective, or as a fishing tackle box gun.

From the choice of guns I own, the Walther PP .32 ACP would be the bare minimum and probably most suitable, concerning its size, flatness and handiness.

Or my trusted 9 mm HK P7M13, which is packing a bit more capacity and power despite being still quite compact, but requires more intense training.

But my favourite would be a small to medium frame .38 Special revolver, either an around 2" snubbie, or featuring a 3" barrel.

An older S&W Mod. 36/60 snubbie, or Mod. 10/13/64/65 with 3" barrel would be fine, Mod. 13 and 65 being more potent due to .357 Mag. caliber, but also having a more punishing recoil when using full house magnum loads.
 
#9 ·
Every day that ive been able to do so, for the last 30 years I've carried a gun. Typically, I carry Glocks though 1911s, Hi Powers, Beretta 92s and CZ 75s have made the cut as well. I carry at least one reload for whatever I'm toting around.

I carry full size fighting handguns--- using a handgun for self defense is difficult. I see no reason to make it even harder by using a less capable tools. As Clint Smith says, " Carrying a gun is supposed to be Comforting, not Comfortable"

i take regular, formal, training with the best instructors in the nation and practice both dry and live fire weekly. Carrying a lethal weapon in public is a serious business.
 
#10 ·
I had a friend, Phil, long since passed, an ex cop, lotto winner, who had his Pug on a Lanyard strung around his neck. Wore it openly. He had so much other jewelry on and wore Hawaiian shirts, and such crazy clothes hardly anyone noticed the gun. And if they did, he just said it was fake , costume jewelry and they believed him.
 
#11 ·
Every class I've taken, there has been a caution to not carry on the small of your back.

It is slow to draw.

It is difficult to draw, especially if one is already involved in an altercation.

Most alterations end up on the ground, and if you are on your back, there is no access to the firearm.

If you fall or get pushed down, now you have to try to win a fight for your life with a broken tailbone.

It gives you the least opportunity to maintain control of the firearm if someone tries to take the firearm from you.

Yes, these are low probability events, but you carry precisely for low probability events.

Give yourself every advantage that you can if you need a firearm to save your life. There is no such thing as cheating in a gunfight.

Carrying a gun should not be a light decision even if it is legal without a permit. Know the legal aspects of armed self defense and these rules and regulations of permitless carry in your area. There are somethings I can do with my permit in Ohio that a permitless carrier is not legally able to do.


I will leave the choice of firearm to you, and im sure others will chime in on that subject as well. I occasionally carry an NAA, but rarely, and when it is my choice of last resort. There are better firearms for self defense.

Unless I know I will be drinking alcohol or there are metal detectors, I have at least one firearm available.
 
#21 ·
Every class I've taken, there has been a caution to not carry on the small of your back.

It is slow to draw.

It is difficult to draw, especially if one is already involved in an altercation.

Most alterations end up on the ground, and if you are on your back, there is no access to the firearm.

If you fall or get pushed down, now you have to try to win a fight for your life with a broken tailbone.

It gives you the least opportunity to maintain control of the firearm if someone tries to take the firearm from you.

Yes, these are low probability events, but you carry precisely for low probability events.

Give yourself every advantage that you can if you need a firearm to save your life. There is no such thing as cheating in a gunfight.

Carrying a gun should not be a light decision even if it is legal without a permit. Know the legal aspects of armed self defense and these rules and regulations of permitless carry in your area. There are somethings I can do with my permit in Ohio that a permitless carrier is not legally able to do.


I will leave the choice of firearm to you, and im sure others will chime in on that subject as well. I occasionally carry an NAA, but rarely, and when it is my choice of last resort. There are better firearms for self defense.

Unless I know I will be drinking alcohol or there are metal detectors, I have at least one firearm available.
Another reason not to carry SMALL OF BACK, if you need one, is that you are likely to flag people when you draw the weapon. When do you need firearms safety? Always!

And never more so when you are agitated and trying to defend your life. Starting a fight by accidentally shooting a bystander, maybe a friend etc...is no way to start the action. There is no good reason to carry SOB.
 
#13 ·
We had a lunatic start stabbing a stranger, who had never had any contact with him, while he sat at the beer bar (dumb idea in grocery store in my opinion), almost killed him before other patrons could beat him down. No concealed carriers I guess or too afraid, talking with a Lt. (local PD) we agreed we'd have domed him if we had the opportunity. Known mental case just walking around waiting to go off. As Sophia said, no place safe only safer.
 
#23 ·
In the last week we've seen a mental case stab 9 people in a Walmart in Michigan, a vicious beat down of three people in Cincinnati by a mob, a mother and father stabbed to death in a state park while walking with their young daughters, a "mass shooting" at a Reno Casino and the NFL tower shooting in Manhattan- And the week ain't over yet and I'm sure there's some incidents I haven't heard of.

NOT CARRYING A GUN IS FOOLISH if you are able to do so and have the skills to use it. If you don't have the skills, WHY NOT? As an adult YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY.
 
#63 ·
True. Carrying is half the equation. Should you survive a life threatening event in defense of yourself or others are you financially prepared to survive the potential legal liabilities after the fact?

Seriously, if your assets aren't unlimited also consider self-defense protection programs from reputable organizations like USCCA, NRA, or protectwithbear.com
 
#19 ·
I’ve been armed the majority of the time since the early 2000s and more and more each day I see no reason one shouldn’t be.
I mainly carry a HellCat often OWB with a shirt tail hanging over, but I alternate with a Seecamp380 when wearing dress slacks or want to be sure of total concealment.
i have no desire to shoot anyone and hope to god nothing ever occurs that would make me even think of needing to upholster. I also know people that have had the need and have no desire to be a victim either
 
#25 · (Edited)
Every day, everywhere, without fail. Kimber Micro 9 (with 2 extra mags) in a crossdraw holster and a folding knife (in a case) on my right hip....always. I actually feel naked without them. Kinda like not wearing a seat belt after 50 years of wearing one. Just feels weird.
I used to ride my Harley with a .45 (open carry) strapped to my hip. Sure made the cagers around me take notice. From "not seeing you', to giving you a wide bearth. Amazing what a little incentive accomplishes. LOL
 
#26 ·
I carry everywhere unless there's some state or federal law prohibiting carry on certain property. I try to avoid going in those places, but one is the post office where I lock my carry gun in the car and usually not inside more than a few minutes.
I don't care if I never need it, but I'm not gonna be the guy who wishes he'd have carried that day.
As for a .22LR of any kind, it's a secondary backup, never a primary carry gun. I own a Walther P22 that I carry when I'm fishing, or walking the woods, as it fits in the back pocket of my jeans. I also have an ankle holster that it fits, and sometimes use it when it's too hot out and I can't conceal my 9mm well.
 
#27 ·
I carry concealed every time I walk out of my door, even if it is just to check the mail. Occasionally I see a sign posted in an establishment saying that weapons are not permitted, but in most cases the only thing they can do is ask you to leave if they spot your gun.

Federal and state buildings are a different story, but I rarely need to go into one of them.

I think those little NAA .22 mag revolvers are kinda cute, but would not consider using one as a defensive weapon. Even on a tight budget, there are lots of better options available.