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Winchester White box Woes!!

11K views 30 replies 25 participants last post by  MadDawg  
#1 ·
For a few months this last year, the white boxes were all I could find to buy (333 round boxes from big 5 and 222 round boxes from a LGS). I bought 2 333 boxes, 1 222. All different lot numbers, all of which being absolutely the worst 22lr ammo I have ever used in my entire life. The overall lengths varied enough to create feeding issues, and roughly 1 in ever 20 failed to fire, most FTF didn't even want to extract! I shot it in my Marlin 60 (had the most feeding issues), my 581, and Winchester 52.

Has anyone else had trouble with this ammo?

I now have a good stash of Federal bulk, PMC Zappers, and some CCI stingers (only for the single six). Haven't had a single issue with the federal or PMC in the same guns.

In fact, yesterday at the range I shot a bunch of the cheap federal ammo, no problem, then filled the Marlin with Winchester white box ammo: the first round didn't feed right, the second fired, and the third FTF and wouldn't extract. After that i just gave away the hundred+ rounds of Winchester garbage I had left (always people happy to get free ammo at the range!)
 
#7 ·
I to have had same results, not just the rimfire. Will not buy any winchester brand at all now. I find it to be the worst. Even the Rem. thunder turds have less problems in both my model 60;s. With all the bashing of rem golden and thunderbolts. Seem to work 100 times better then Winchester. With centerfire .. you got to inspect every round. Always find stretched casings or bullet not seated correctly.... Be careful using winchester as quality has gone away it seems
 
#12 ·
I agree that Winchester ammo is BY FAR the worst! Winchester 333... My marlin model 60 had nothing but problems, so bad I couldn't fire 2 shots without a jam or misfire. Even my single six revolver wouldn't accept them! The bullets look like they were chewed into shape by a dog and no 2 bullets looked alike.

Most of them wouldn't even go into the chamber of my revolver. The rim thickness was very inconsistent and most that would go into the chamber wouldn't let the cylinder turn freely. Maybe 1 out of 10 at best would actually work in my revolver.

BTW my model 60 and single six both shoot everything else with no issues at all.
I seriously cant express how badly I HATE Winchester bulk ammo. Its pure garbage to me. I hate that crap so bad its not even funny.

My brother has a 9mm and its eats anything up except Winchester. He hates Winchester ammo as much as I do.
 
#17 ·
I have a sig (gsg) 1911 .22 that won't shoot the white box stuff at all. A friend saw some at walmart a while back and picked up two boxes for me since she had heard my woes at finding .22 so I wasn't going to quibble. I paid her what she paid and surprisingly it shoots great out of my two Marlin rifles. One a 60 and the other a 795. In fact, they cycle and group better than federal bulk rounds out of those two guns. Still won't work worth a darned out of my pistol.
 
#18 ·
See this thread about my experience with lots of bad crimps in three 555 boxes that I purchased online last year.

Some were so bad that just loading them into a magazine caused the bullet to fall out of the casing. Others failed to build enough pressure to expand the casing, and resulted in a face full of half-burned powder.

Winchester's response was pretty tepid. They ignored my complaint form until I asked "WTH?" on their Facebook page, then acknowledged the problem and just replaced the two boxes I had left.
 
#20 ·
For a few months this last year, the white boxes were all I could find to buy (333 round boxes from big 5 and 222 round boxes from a LGS). I bought 2 333 boxes, 1 222. All different lot numbers, all of which being absolutely the worst 22lr ammo I have ever used in my entire life. The overall lengths varied enough to create feeding issues, and roughly 1 in ever 20 failed to fire, most FTF didn't even want to extract! I shot it in my Marlin 60 (had the most feeding issues), my 581, and Winchester 52.

Has anyone else had trouble with this ammo?

I now have a good stash of Federal bulk, PMC Zappers, and some CCI stingers (only for the single six). Haven't had a single issue with the federal or PMC in the same guns.

In fact, yesterday at the range I shot a bunch of the cheap federal ammo, no problem, then filled the Marlin with Winchester white box ammo: the first round didn't feed right, the second fired, and the third FTF and wouldn't extract. After that i just gave away the hundred+ rounds of Winchester garbage I had left (always people happy to get free ammo at the range!)
Sorry about your woes,I bought 4 boxes of the stuff and shot many rounds through my 5 fitty 2 Remmy Speedmaster 1980 vintage,my intention was to just sight the gun in with the stuff,but my grandsons wanted to do some shooting they put about 300 rounds through with not one malfunction,and they were shooting as fast as they could pull the trigger ,most of the time.Took the gun apart a little gun scrubber ,lubed up with eezox and put her away,wasn't excessively dirty. No complaints here ,am I just lucky or do only other people have all the misfortune?Groups adequately for any 22 hunting scenario.
 
#21 ·
wow they must be super rare or something around here...I can honestly say ive never seen a WWB bulk pack..well ever lol. I always wondered if they made it..not even before the "shortage" was there any locally..all we got was the SuperX(and thats in the 100 plastic packs and was good ammo...also the 525 packs in the silver box(dont know what they were but box was silver not white) but never white box...guess I will avoid those and Remington Thunderbolts lol.
 
#22 ·
guess I will avoid those and Remington Thunderbolts lol.
Many of the people beating on Thunderbolts, Winchester 555/333, etc... haven't shot any of it, or shot it umpteen years ago and haven't shot any of it since.

Every .22 is different in its likes and dislikes, so don't listen to the crowd, listen to your .22. Buy some, try it and see what your .22 likes and doesn't like, then buy more of what it likes.

If you buy some your guns don't like, sell it, loan it, or give it away.

Nolan
 
#25 ·
the 3 junk boxes of Winchester 333 I had were over a year ago. Its not just a temporary problem. I know years ago Winchester used to be good but the new stuff is all junk. Some very non picky people might have some luck though, its garbage.
Winchester bulk makes Remington golden bullets look like CCI minimags!
 
#27 · (Edited)
my view

after reading all these post about how bad winchester white box ammo was. I decided to burn some in my two lower cost firearms. I have a slightly modified Ruger 22/45 mk3 and a dead stock Marlin model 60. The 22/45 has an NCStar red dot and the Marlin has a bushnell 3/9 by 32mm scope.

We were at the local quarry firing at empty bottles, shaving cream cans, real targets from 10 yards to 240 yards. My buddies had some high power stuff so that was their game but I tried the long distances too.

Firstly, I keep my guns clean every time I use them.

Now, I had no stove pipes , no FTF or FTE in 150 rounds through each weapon.

Acurracy at 25 50 and 200 yards with the rifle was excellent (sub 1" at 25 and 50 yards) 200 yards I hit the same targets as my buddies.

Accuracy with the pistol at 10 25 and 50 yards with the pistol was also quite good.

All shots take from table top the rifle has a bipod and the pistol was from my hand hold.

Basically, in this small sample of randomly picked ammo I find it perfectly acceptable. Oh, BTW, it was from 333 boxes of white box 36 gr hollow points.
 
#28 ·
I bought a box of Wildcats 4 years ago. They would not feed correctly in a new Walther P22. Also some extraction failures. Granted, the pistol was brand new but it ran CCI Mini-Mags and Blazers without a hitch. I gave the rest away.

2 years ago I bought a box of T-22. First one I pulled out of the factory box was dented so badly it would have never chambered. Most of the rounds in the box the bullet was very loose in the case to the point that they wobbled. I trashed the whole box.

I am done with Winchester.