With a head shot at about 20ryds? with a dynopiont ? how about a subsonic?
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Yes,
but I would suggest studying the anatomy and concentrate on a close range (inside 5 yds) head shot.
Take care,
warren
but I would suggest studying the anatomy and concentrate on a close range (inside 5 yds) head shot.
Take care,
warren
I'd suggest looking up a photo of a coon's skull. Different animals have radically different structures in their skulls. You can get a better idea of the size of the actual braincage, and it's position relative to the eyes and ears.
The answer to your question is a definite yes....IF.... you hit the right spot.
Ron
The answer to your question is a definite yes....IF.... you hit the right spot.
Ron
A 22lr will kill it as dead as a door nail. If it is in a cage a subsonic or a dyna-point are fine. Out of a cage, use a good high velocity hollow point. Winchester power points work great, expand well and cause alot of internal damage= DEAD
Good luck,
Qaz
Good luck,
Qaz
As others have said "YES" if hit right. It's not subsonic but CCI Velocitors would work great :snipersmi :frostyang
i've killed 'em w/.22shorts when the dogs had 'em treed but, i always prefered 22lr solids, like federal lightinings. the aguila sss is definitely one to consider. that heavy bullet at close range should knock 'em right outta the tree.
subsonic and a raccoon
in my humble opinion, i would never use a subsonic .22 LR on anything bigger than a squirrel. I was hunting marmot 2 years ago with a ruger 10/22 and remington subsonics in the mountains of colorado. i put 2 shots into the head and neck area of a 3-4 pounder, one from 35 - 40 ft and one from about 12 -13 ft. it still managed to crawl away into its hole.
i was extreamly upset to loose such a nice animal and of the waste of meat. now it seams to me that a raccoon would be a larger and a much tougher customer than a rockchuck and i would now ONLY trust a high velocity hollow point on something that size.
in the past i had taken a 6 pound chuck from the same area and dropped it on one shot to the head from my 880SQ and CCI mini mag, in fact it seemed that it was dead before it hit the rock. by the way, i have pictures to prove it was a BIG one! also have pic of me with a 44 lb beaver i took out of a pond up in the mountains. good luck! -eric
in my humble opinion, i would never use a subsonic .22 LR on anything bigger than a squirrel. I was hunting marmot 2 years ago with a ruger 10/22 and remington subsonics in the mountains of colorado. i put 2 shots into the head and neck area of a 3-4 pounder, one from 35 - 40 ft and one from about 12 -13 ft. it still managed to crawl away into its hole.
i was extreamly upset to loose such a nice animal and of the waste of meat. now it seams to me that a raccoon would be a larger and a much tougher customer than a rockchuck and i would now ONLY trust a high velocity hollow point on something that size.
in the past i had taken a 6 pound chuck from the same area and dropped it on one shot to the head from my 880SQ and CCI mini mag, in fact it seemed that it was dead before it hit the rock. by the way, i have pictures to prove it was a BIG one! also have pic of me with a 44 lb beaver i took out of a pond up in the mountains. good luck! -eric
OK, just got racoon number 3 few minutes ago at midnight here. Did I use a Stinger? Nope. A long? Nope. A short then? Nope. How about a CB? Wrong again.
Just a 22 caliber 21 grain pellet from my Theoben Rapid 12 (PCP) at about 19 yards. You have to have the confidence and practice, of course, and the pellet was placed perfectly in the ear. Must have had a nasty ear ache for the less than 10 seconds he did the death dance. Just in case you're wondering, the first two died almost instantly (less than ten seconds) and did not require a soft target like the ear or eye. One was at the rear base of the brain, the other a high neck shot to the spine. So far I'm three for three.
I'm not advocating the use of standard pellet guns on these things, but am pointing out that it can be reliably done with the right equipment, including a good scope, and an appropriate amount of target practice before hand. The same goes for small rimfires. Don't take the shot unless you know from experience that it will go where you intend, and still be quickly ready for the follow-up.
Just a 22 caliber 21 grain pellet from my Theoben Rapid 12 (PCP) at about 19 yards. You have to have the confidence and practice, of course, and the pellet was placed perfectly in the ear. Must have had a nasty ear ache for the less than 10 seconds he did the death dance. Just in case you're wondering, the first two died almost instantly (less than ten seconds) and did not require a soft target like the ear or eye. One was at the rear base of the brain, the other a high neck shot to the spine. So far I'm three for three.
I'm not advocating the use of standard pellet guns on these things, but am pointing out that it can be reliably done with the right equipment, including a good scope, and an appropriate amount of target practice before hand. The same goes for small rimfires. Don't take the shot unless you know from experience that it will go where you intend, and still be quickly ready for the follow-up.
7.62by39, we used nothing but .22s for coon hunting, and my older cousin swore by .22 shorts as being the best coon killer. And he killed literally thousands of coon, and probably all with the .22 shorts. I preferred my .22 LR and my .22 mag. for coon hunting.
MT, since you square velocity it has a HUGE advantage in "energy" over bullet weightMilitant_tiger said:
60gr @ 850fps = 96 ft/lbs
30gr @ 850 = 48 ft/lbs Same velocity, 1/2 the bullet weight gave you 1/2 the energy
now then
60 gr @ 850 is still going to = 96 ft/lbs does that mean that 60gr @ 1700 fps is going to give you 192 ft/lbs?
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60gr@1700 fps = 385 ft/lbs 4 times the energy of the same bullet weight at 1/2 the speed.
All data was computed using "Point Blank" ballistic software A free software available HERE
Paul
Added for comparison... a 40gr bullet @ 1050fps = 98 ft/lbs
unfortunately, as most do, you failed to read the message. you skimmed it. i said that the FPE is significantly increased over STANDARD SUBSONICS. i made no assumptions that it was higher than a high velocity round, or for that matter even a standard velocity round. before you try to smack me with a book please read the post through a few times 
Tiger
Tiger
Caution
You better be very sure of your shot and then make it in the head (more specifically the brain). I took on a raccoon in the top of a very tall oaktree (light was fading) with my Nylon 66 (loaded with high velocity hollow points) when I was a young inexperienced hunter. This turned into a long grizzly affair that almost turned me off of hunting and I vowed to never shoot another raccoon unless it was rabid or I or a loved one was starving. That poor animal must have taken 20 hits. This may not be true of all of them but that big rascal was built like a tank.
You better be very sure of your shot and then make it in the head (more specifically the brain). I took on a raccoon in the top of a very tall oaktree (light was fading) with my Nylon 66 (loaded with high velocity hollow points) when I was a young inexperienced hunter. This turned into a long grizzly affair that almost turned me off of hunting and I vowed to never shoot another raccoon unless it was rabid or I or a loved one was starving. That poor animal must have taken 20 hits. This may not be true of all of them but that big rascal was built like a tank.
Sheff,
That brings to mind my first try at killin a coon. He was up in a tree about 24 ft near dark, so I got my Theoben and rested it on my maglight. I thought, 'this thing is dead meat' when his green eyes lit up like little lights in my scope! I lined up the crosshairs btween the eyes and squeesed one off. He immediately dropped like a sack of rocks. I climbed up the three foot rockery above my gravel drive to collect my prize.
Well I got a real surprise when in the almost dark it jumped out of the bushes right at me! :yikes: With raw instinct I jumped backwards off the rockery and skidded to a stop on my side, still cradling my expensive rifle. Saved it but sacrificed much skin. Lol. :bonk:
Saw the coon a few days later, this time I decided to be smart and pick a soft spot instead of bouncing one off its brain cap and just knocking it out! Spine shot through the upper throat did the trick right quick.
Live and learn. Now on 'coons I only shoot in the ear from above, base of the head, or high on the neck aligned with the spine. Hopefully, for those critters that have many lives, people will read and learn from our mistakes, making for less suffering.
That brings to mind my first try at killin a coon. He was up in a tree about 24 ft near dark, so I got my Theoben and rested it on my maglight. I thought, 'this thing is dead meat' when his green eyes lit up like little lights in my scope! I lined up the crosshairs btween the eyes and squeesed one off. He immediately dropped like a sack of rocks. I climbed up the three foot rockery above my gravel drive to collect my prize.
Well I got a real surprise when in the almost dark it jumped out of the bushes right at me! :yikes: With raw instinct I jumped backwards off the rockery and skidded to a stop on my side, still cradling my expensive rifle. Saved it but sacrificed much skin. Lol. :bonk:
Saw the coon a few days later, this time I decided to be smart and pick a soft spot instead of bouncing one off its brain cap and just knocking it out! Spine shot through the upper throat did the trick right quick.
Live and learn. Now on 'coons I only shoot in the ear from above, base of the head, or high on the neck aligned with the spine. Hopefully, for those critters that have many lives, people will read and learn from our mistakes, making for less suffering.
I have coon hunted for many years and often used cb longs from CCI for the kill shot. These shots were at 20 yards or less and the rifle was sighted specifically for these rounds. If you are going to use the subsonic rounds like the cb longs or others, be sure of a brain hit. Otherwise these animals can soak up a bunch of lead and just suffer. I usually aim for an eye or between the eye and ear to be sure of hitting grey matter. Good luck.
Huntinbull
Huntinbull
Huntinbull,
On your 'between-the-eye' hits w/CB's have you ever bounced one off? The reason I ask is that I bounced one off w/my 900 fps, 21 grain pellet, just knocking it out. The shot was at a glancing angle, so it would have probably penetrated if it was a perpendicular shot. Never had a fail-to-penetrate shot on a coon since, but now I don't aim for anything hard.
On your 'between-the-eye' hits w/CB's have you ever bounced one off? The reason I ask is that I bounced one off w/my 900 fps, 21 grain pellet, just knocking it out. The shot was at a glancing angle, so it would have probably penetrated if it was a perpendicular shot. Never had a fail-to-penetrate shot on a coon since, but now I don't aim for anything hard.
Chief Says : Hunted coons all my life. More when there was a demand at the fur market. None now !
I takem thousands of coons with 22 cal. any ammo ( hv Solid points ) and
very often used Stingers.
I point out one usefull thing to remember = A Raccoon is a very tough animal.
If you fail to hit him in the head , you will need more than one shot to put him down " for the count". Body shots just don't drop mister coon like alot of other animals. Opossum - easy to drop.
CD.
I takem thousands of coons with 22 cal. any ammo ( hv Solid points ) and
very often used Stingers.
I point out one usefull thing to remember = A Raccoon is a very tough animal.
If you fail to hit him in the head , you will need more than one shot to put him down " for the count". Body shots just don't drop mister coon like alot of other animals. Opossum - easy to drop.
CD.
Funny and some what related
I am orignally from Vermont. Besides my regular job I raised chickens and rabbits. At first The coons discovered the chicken feed, they got healthy and fat with the anti biotics in it, I soon put a stop to that when I found out, put the feed in metal trash cans and tied down the tops. Problem solved right? Wrong, they started going after the chickens, most were penned but some were free ranging, War! I would shoot them every chance I got. It was fun at first, I'd hide out side at night and the kids would switch on the outdoor lights when I tapped on the window, hard to hit a coon on a fast run, heh.
My daughter was the first one home from school in the afternoons and she would take the .22 and shoot them out of the trees, all head shots, she was around 12 then.
But living in the woods you just can't get all of them, I wound up putting chicken wire all around the coop and over the top along with a few strands of barbed wire, I hate the stuff.
Then one time something was raiding the trash, what a mess, I figured a coon. I set a leg hold trap, its late at night and I'm home alone trying to nap on the couch, SNAP! ah ha I got the bugger! I go out with my .22 to shoot the coon but its not a coon, its a skunk, oh ****, I don't let him see me and he has'nt sprayed, I figure a head shot will kill him quick and he won't spray, guess who was wrong? Yep me, I shot him in the head but he still let go and that yard stunk for at least two months.
A short while after that I heard a ruckus in the hen house, some how a skunk got in and was trying to get the eggs I guess, and the rooster was trying to fight him, I run in and the only gun I had around was a Ruger single six that I just bought and was sighting in with .22 mags earlier in the day, I run back out and remembering the last incounter with a skunk I did not want to get to close or I'd be living with the chickens. So I got about 35 or 40 yards to it aimed while he was half in and half out and he was in the shadows which was worst and tried to take a bead on his head and was lucky, it got him in the back of the head and killed him instantly, no spray! Whew.
Those were the days
I am orignally from Vermont. Besides my regular job I raised chickens and rabbits. At first The coons discovered the chicken feed, they got healthy and fat with the anti biotics in it, I soon put a stop to that when I found out, put the feed in metal trash cans and tied down the tops. Problem solved right? Wrong, they started going after the chickens, most were penned but some were free ranging, War! I would shoot them every chance I got. It was fun at first, I'd hide out side at night and the kids would switch on the outdoor lights when I tapped on the window, hard to hit a coon on a fast run, heh.
My daughter was the first one home from school in the afternoons and she would take the .22 and shoot them out of the trees, all head shots, she was around 12 then.
But living in the woods you just can't get all of them, I wound up putting chicken wire all around the coop and over the top along with a few strands of barbed wire, I hate the stuff.
Then one time something was raiding the trash, what a mess, I figured a coon. I set a leg hold trap, its late at night and I'm home alone trying to nap on the couch, SNAP! ah ha I got the bugger! I go out with my .22 to shoot the coon but its not a coon, its a skunk, oh ****, I don't let him see me and he has'nt sprayed, I figure a head shot will kill him quick and he won't spray, guess who was wrong? Yep me, I shot him in the head but he still let go and that yard stunk for at least two months.
A short while after that I heard a ruckus in the hen house, some how a skunk got in and was trying to get the eggs I guess, and the rooster was trying to fight him, I run in and the only gun I had around was a Ruger single six that I just bought and was sighting in with .22 mags earlier in the day, I run back out and remembering the last incounter with a skunk I did not want to get to close or I'd be living with the chickens. So I got about 35 or 40 yards to it aimed while he was half in and half out and he was in the shadows which was worst and tried to take a bead on his head and was lucky, it got him in the back of the head and killed him instantly, no spray! Whew.
Those were the days
your absolutely right, chief. i grew up hunting coons (my gramps took me before i was old enough to walk) and not once did we ever try to put one in a coon's "boiler room". gramps liked head shots cause he sold the hides. occassionally if my uncle wanted to placate the dogs he'd shoot one in the body if it was out on a limb so it would drop and the dogs could fight it. (i hope no peta ppl read that) body shots to a coon just make 'em mad, takes more than one every time.
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