It's ugly?

 

Sometimes it is a beauty contest.

It looks similar to the others. Is it the birch wood? Was thinking of getting one but I'm wondering if there are a lot minor details that make it ugly or is there a big flaw?

 

Actually... I don't think it is ugly but it is not to my particular tastes. The drop in the stock I could live with but the iron sights, to me, detract from the lines of the rifle to the extent that it does not visually "balance" properly. With out the drop in the top of the stock and the irons the gun would be much more pleasant to "my" eye.... The 457 American is the cleanest and best looking rimfire made IMO.

I think the 457, in its many forms and models, will end up as a classic rimfire rifle and sell millions....

 

If you’re asking about the Training rifle and not the Trainer with a Manners stock , I think CZ should have at least put some checking on the grip . It would help dress it up a little .
The stock is the only difference in the 457 Training rifle and the 457 Lux .
For about $60 more you can get a Lux and get a nicer Turkish walnut stock with checkering.
I own a couple 452 Training rifles , a 455 Training rifle , two 455 Lux , and two 457 LUX .
All but one are 22lr . They are my favorite CZ style of rifle . I like sights on a rifle
I own more CZ Training rifles than any other CZ models .



457 Lux

 

Because it shoots so well without any modifications that it is just no FUN!

 

This...:bthumb:

 

We have three 452 Trainers and have had one in the 455, but we still bought the 457. Why? The lower bolt throw of the 457 allowed me to finally put a scope on the hogback stock low enough to be comfy.

I do not like the funky dark stain on this 457 version of the Trainer. That I will freely admit and I would have preferred checkering on the pistol grip, too. Would have much preferred the normal stain as per the 452 and the 455 to bring out whatever grain the beech might have (and it is beech). A couple of our 452 Trainers have some very nice beech stocks. Beech stocks aren't always plain.

As for accuracy with a scope on our 457 version, hey, it's a Trainer, funky stock or not. Sub half inch at 50, no problem.

 

My first CZ rifle was a 452 Trainer in 17 HMR. It was the first year CZ came out with the 17. It is still my most accurate rimfire in a safe full of rimfire rifles.

I need a 22 mag in a 457 and would not be opposed to the trainer model in the least.

 

I am not a collector, like Gerald, but in the last almost- twenty years I have owned at least one of almost every CZ model 452 and 455, in multiple calibers. I have never owned or wished to own a Trainer - not when I could buy a Lux. Even though I have seen some spectacular beechwood, I always figured that my chances of getting nice wood were better with walnut. Did that work out for me? Not really. I own some "OK" factory stocks, but never won the wood lottery with one.

 

Based on the CZs I've got, I think from now on I'll be looking for beech instead of the walnut. I've got 13 CZs, and danged if I've ever hit the wood lottery even once . I might as well get the beechwood and have a sturdier stock! Some of the beech can be pretty striking on its own hook. My 455 Scouts have beech that is kinda nice. My walnut might as well be synthetic, it's pretty bland, like it came off Ruger's woodpile.
I really wish I'd bought one of the 452 Americans with beech when they were available.

 

Thank you for the details - pros and cons. Now, I'll have a better idea of what to look for when choosing between a Trainer and Lux. Hopefully, I'll be able to get two or more side by side for comparison. Seems like there is enough to nudge me to the Lux unless the Trainer is exceptional.

Prefer good iron sights as I haven't worked my way to a scope yet. That will also be a factor when buying.

 

You can't go wrong with the CZ tangent sights if you like shooting irons. That's why we bought our Trainers in the first place. I just added the 457 to try a Trainer with a scope, for a change.

The tangent sights and that long 24" plus barrel makes a terrific combo for shooting irons. You get these same features on both the 457 Trainer and the Lux. Only difference is the stock. If I had it to do, over, I would have gotten the Lux for the walnut, but couldn't pass up the Trainer, grabbing it when the 457s first hit the store in my area.

 

Was in the LGS just last week, a 457 Scout for $429...

I paid less than $350 for mine about a year ago, its one of the newest additions to the racks, just crazy not much less than I paid for my Varmint a year ago. Crazy times.

Oh and I'm an accumulator OldSwede, a collectors accumulation has order, mine doesn't.

 

Was in the LGS just last week, a 457 Scout for $429...

I paid less than $350 for mine about a year ago, its one of the newest additions to the racks, just crazy not much less than I paid for my Varmint a year ago. Crazy times.

In 2007, I paid $239 for a 452 Trainer in Wal-Mart. They had to order it for me. Took about two weeks.

Now Wal-Marts in my state don't even sell firearms anymore. Crazy times indeed.

 

I paid $199.00 for my first 452 Trainer . That was several years ago . My next CZ buy was a 513 Farmer. Which was similar to the Trainer or Special except for the trigger .
My latest , the 457 Lux in 22wmr was $546. OTD including all fees . .

 

Lot's of folk's love their Trainer.........it's just a different flavor of CZ!

 

I have a 457 Training rifle with Tech-Site peep sights. It is a wonderful rifle. Looks good, feels good and it shoots good.

 

Because they are ugly, IMHO. And not everyone can use the HOG BACK stock.

 

I have a 457 Training rifle with Tech-Site peep sights. It is a wonderful rifle. Looks good, feels good and it shoots good.

"De gustibus non est disputandum" Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Etcetera. [emoji3166]