nobody that I'm aware of, though I could be wrong. I'd say we're probably limited to blanks that require a gunsmith to finish up and install. I'd really like a tight Lilja with the Eley Tenex EPS chamber cut in it for my Mark II FSS.

 

why change

Having a problem with your weapon?

 

even if there aren't any problems with it, there is a lot to be gained by switching to a match chamber, even keeping everything else the same. The sporting chamber that comes from the factory is relatively large, compared to a match chamber. And that's responsible for a good portion of the accuracy limitations in the rifle. Rechambering the existing barrel is probably going to be almost as much work as having a barrel blank smithed for installation anyway, so why not upgrade the whole barrel at the same time? It's got a relatively loose sporting chamber, so you would have to cut at least a little off the breech end to rechamber it to a tighter match chamber, so you'd actually have some metal to cut a smaller chamber from. I don't know if that would leave it in a state that you could simply reinstall it with minimal fuss or not, but I imagine you'd have to do at least some of the same work you'd have to do when installing a custom blank. So, in that case, why not just go with a new higher-quality blank to begin with? Makes perfect sense to me. And is the reason I've been wondering about the Lilja barrels.

 

Shorty;
I had Chase Mountain Custom True and square and thread my MkII action and install a Lilja Tight Bore SS match barrel

Kim of Chase Mountain did a wonderful job on it by the way.
I agree with your thinking that it should shoot better with a barrel with a true match chamber but a new barrel is of course always a crap shoot......I am hoping for the best and will keep you informed as to my results once I get out to the range to do some testing.
glenn (buckeyeair)

 

I brought my heavy barrel'd Mark II in to my local gun shop. They said there was a small burr in the chamber, so they cleaned it up. I've been getting great groups since then. A new crown might help too.

 

you might see if you can send your barrel in and have it re-crowned and have the chamber set back, alot of people do it for the 10/22 factory barrels and it makes a world of difference, since the savages shoot about the same from the factory as rugers (please no arguing this, it's not the point of the thread). I see no reason it couldn't be done on a savage. then it would be a match chamber and be totally stock to the eye's.
hmm. i might have to do this

 

No, there's nothing wrong with the weapon, but it came from the factory with the slender barrel. I've owned it a couple of years and I want to go to a bull barrel with a match chamber. I would like to get the name of some of the manufacturers who make aftermarket barrels for it.

 

No, there's nothing wrong with the weapon, but it came from the factory with the slender barrel. I've owned it a couple of years and I want to go to a bull barrel with a match chamber. I would like to get the name of some of the manufacturers who make aftermarket barrels for it.

What about a bull barrel from Savage? And while I am at it, I shoot left hand and I don't think Savage offers a bull barrel model for us left handed shooters. Could a bull barrel intended for a right hand action be fitted to a left hand - does it make a difference in the barrel?

Jim

I recently had a friend modify the tenon on a Green Mountain 10/22 barrel to fit the Savage MarkII receiver. A 96/22 barrel would be easier to use, because it already has the 2 relief cuts. They seem to be harder to find though. It turned out real well. I still have to finish modifying the stock to accept that heavy .920 barrel. Can't wait to see how it shoots.

Did a facing cut on the receiver to make it flat. Barrel fits perfectly. Had to cut a second extractor cut. Did that with a file. No problems at all. Real easy change to do. Hardest part so far was getting the original barrel to come out.

 

as I said, nobody that I know of. At least, nothing you can pop the old one off and pop the new one on. You'll have to get a blank and get a gunsmith to finish and install.

 

What about a bull barrel from Savage? And while I am at it, I shoot left hand and I don't think Savage offers a bull barrel model for us left handed shooters. Could a bull barrel intended for a right hand action be fitted to a left hand - does it make a difference in the barrel?

Jim

 

I'm sure the bull barrel would help, but if possible I'd also want a match chamber. So, if you could convince Savage to send you one without cutting the chamber, yeehaw! Just get someone else to cut a match chamber in it before installing it.

 

Wow, this is a surprise. You guys are saying that nobody makes replacement barrels for this rifle? Sounds like it's supposed to be a disposable weapon - wear the barrel out, throw the rifle away.
No, my barrel isn't worn out. I just want to upgrade the weapon with a bull barrel an match chamber so it will shoot even better than it does right now.
I also own a Ruger 10/22. My Savage outshoots the Ruger hands-down...but I can buy any number of replacement barrels for the Ruger, or for any other gun I own...except for the Savage?
A couple of people mentioned barrel blanks. Where are these available from? What companies/distributors?

 

:t HEY Joe, don't know of anyone ever wearing out a 22 rimmy bbl. under normal conditions they last a few generations ,they can be lost to neglect ,but seldon wear. --JMJ--

 

Mossbergman, I would like to be able to make my Mark II-f even better than it is now. My barrel is not worn out. It is not pitted, eroded, or rusted. It's fine, for what it is, a sporter type barrel for plinking and squirrel hunting.
But I'd like to customize the rifle by installing a nice bull barrel with a match chamber.
I'm not disparaging the rifle or Savage. I just want to make it a better rifle.

 

I called Savage and spoke with Debbie in the service department. I told her that I would like to upgrade the Savage Mark II by getting a bull barrel for it. Debbie said that they don't replace barrels, because the barrels on the Mark II are pinned. She said they don't sell barrels either. She also said that she doesn't think anybody makes an aftermarket barrel of any type for the Savage Mark II.
So I guess I won't be upgrading the Savage. If I want a Savage with a bull barrel, I'll just have to buy one that came that way from the factory.

 

or you could buy a Lilja (or any number of others) barrel blank and get a gunsmith to install it...which I'm saying for the third time now... Nobody makes a drop-in barrel like nine zillion companies do for the Ruger 10/22, where you can more or less just pop one off and put another one on. You can get whatever barrel you like, but you'll have to have custom work done to get it on there. It's not impossible, and someone's already got the exact Lilja barrel that I'm thinking of getting on their Savage Mark II action over on benchrest.com. A barrel blank is a barrel that hasn't already been machined to be installed on gun XYZ. It still needs to have some machining done to get it installed on any given action. This is how you get barrel ABC installed on gun XYZ, when there isn't already a huge aftermarket for them as in the case of the Ruger 10/22.

 

I fail to see any wisdom in paying Lilja about $500 for a barrel blank and then paying my gunsmith another $100 or so to finish the job. But I found my solution for under $200. Thanks anyway.

 

I paid $100.00 for my used Lilja tight bore SS match barrel and $175.00 to have it installed and that included trueing the MkII action and threading it-rechambering and recrowning and rethreading the barrel ....so if you watch the classifieds you can find a good deal. I think it just depends on what an individual wants. I happened to want a 'Custom Build' using a Savage action and bolt and it is costing me a good bit more than going out and buying another Savage FV or BV but that is what I wanted...most folks want something different. There have been a few (very few) posters on here that have done similiar.....to each his own....
glenn (buckeyeair)

 

$500? They're $300. And they're Lilja barrels. You're not honestly suggesting all barrels are created equal, are you?

 

No, Shorty, I wouldn't suggest that all barrels are created equal.

 

MauserJoe

You will not find a drop in barrel for your Savage because they DON"T DROP IN. They are press fit and pinned, which requires more effort than most folks are willing to put forth to improve accuracy and therefore the market would be very small. However, if you want a .920" barrel with at least a Bentz chamber then buy a Ruger 10/22 barrel and have the shank turned to the proper dimentions. This doesn't require a gun smith, just a competent machinest. Next recut the extractor slot with a small file and glue the barrel into the receiver with LockTite 609 and happy shooting.

You don't need to start with a blank. Infact finishing a blank can get expensive as most blanks are oversize on the OD and have to be turned to diameter as well as chambered and crowned. Sorry but there is no quick and easy way to buy and bolt on a new barrel for your Savage.

Here is a primer on removing the barrel and installing a new one. And yes I said glue the new barrel in, you don't even need the old pin.

http://njshooting.tripod.com/FITTING A .22 RIMFIRE BARREL.htm

Get your hands dirty and you don't have to spend a fortune to get a good shooting gun.

Good luck.

sawdust

 

I never asked for a drop-in barrel. I asked for vendors of replacement barrels, and I asked for vendors of custom barrels. I also said that I wanted a match chamber, and I know you have to have a gunsmith fit a barrel and produce a match chamber.
I used the 10/22 as an example, because it too is a .22 rimfire. The drop-in term came from somebody else.
I also asked for vendors of barrel blanks. There aren't any drop-in Mauser barrels either. But there are replacement barrels and there are custom barrels for Mausers. When I build a Mauser, the barrel gets installed by my gunsmith, who ensures concentricity or the bore and the outside surface of the barrel, machines the threads if need be, and mates the surfaces of both the butt and the shoulder of the barrel to the trued action. He then does the match chamber, and the crown, drills and taps it for a scope, or installs iron sights.
Shorty, I heard you say 'Lilja.' I heard you say it three times. I wanted to hear names of a variety of vendors, so I could shop around and get the barrel with the features that I want. Thank you for your input.
Buckeyeair, you got a good deal on that barrel. I hope it shoots well. I have my gunsmith true the actions on all my Mauser projects too. Truing makes a big difference when shooting the large and medium calibers, so I guess it would be even more important on a small-bore rimfire. I get some amazing groups out of my 8mm (.323 cal.), .30/06, and other custom Mausers, and it doesn't get any better if you're hunting deer, elk, or moose, with the right glass on top. I'll soon be building a Mauser in 6.8mm SPC, the smallest bore Mauser I've done. Sometime down the road, hopefully this year, I'll build a Mauser in .416 Rigby, a true elephant and rhino cartridge that thumps a 400-grain bullet downrange at more than 2,200 feet per second.
But I've never done a .22 rimfire before, so I came here for some help. I didn't intend to piss anybody off, but I apologize if I did.
Sawdust, thanks for the tip on using a 10/22 barrel. I like the idea of converting a Ruger barrel for use on a Savage rifle! The installation instructions are good, too.
Please feel free to share small-bore rimfire tips and tricks with me, folks. If you want to know anything about Mausers, chances are that I can help.

 

hmm, savage 93 17 with a Magnum Research Carbon Fiber barrel. drool.

 

Eley EPS (both Red & Black) is the only ammo that My Mark ll doesn't like.
Good Luck and God Bless, Bill Ivins

 

wrong thread?

 

Thanks for posting this! I appreciate it.

 

David E. ,

Nice job on the barrel. Gotta love how a bolt action looks with a big ole bull barrel.

Your rifle looks great.

 

Mauser Joe,

There is an RFC member by the name of tack who may be able to help you out. Here's a link to his site: http://mysite.verizon.net/resp5was/id28.html

His site advertises his services in rechambering factory Savage barrels. However, I see no reason he couldn't take a GM barrel and do something similar to what David E. has accomplished.

You can do a search here on the Savage forum for past work of his.

EDIT:
He does advertise fitting barrels to receivers: http://mysite.verizon.net/resp5was/id2.html