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Walther / Hammerli Tac R1

43K views 15 replies 10 participants last post by  mklagge64  
#1 ·
Hi All,

Last week I purchased a Walther / Hammerli Tac R1.

I took it to the range this weekend and the trigger is very heavy. I was trying to find a schematic of the rifle to look at it before I decide to take it all apart to add some grease to the trigger mechanism but I was wondering if anyone else has this rifle and if their trigger was very heavy also.

The pull force is advertised as 6-9 lbs. I don't have a trigger force gage but it feel more than 9 lbs.

Also, does anyone have the schematics for this rifle? The manual that it came with is poor at best.

Other than the trigger, the rifle operates great and feels good in the hands.

Thanks,
Antonio
 
#5 ·
Nick,
I am loving this rifle. From all of my research, the triggers on this rifle, the Umarex Colt M4 and Umarex HK416 all are very heavy (they ball use pretty much the same trigger box based on the schematics).
I found a kit for the Umarex HK416 that definitely helped with the trigger weight.
The stock pull weight was 9 lbs 7 oz measured on a Lyman Pull Gauge.
I pulled apart the trigger box assembly, polished the mating surfaces and greased the surfaces well and the weight dropped to 9 lbs 5 oz so not a significant improvement but still an improvement.
After adding the spring kit, it went down to 6 lbs 7 oz so it is much better now.
I really like shooting this rifle. The only thing I would like better is if the design was more like an AR lower platform so I could use AR components for the trigger but the kit wasn't that bad so I can live with it.
Regards,
Antonio
 
#13 · (Edited)
Found this thread upon a search after I received an email this afternoon from RifleGear.com indicating they have the Walther Hammerli Tac R1 .22LR Rifles available at $430: https://www.riflegear.com/p-10680-w...+one&utm_campaign=TS+2+Sale&vgo_ee=w9Ysb3867ui747Z0yON/xnwFoqDlMHNmyq65fGLdufk=

Unfortunately, this review parallels the findings of other with respect to the trigger pull and in this case it was 8.5 lbs: https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/hammerli-tac-r1-22-c-review/383226

To my mind, That. Is. Simply. Outrageous.

I am disappointed as, were the trigger even 6lbs I was prepared to go ahead and take the $430 hit, order the rifle this evening AND a invest another $300-$400 in magazines ahead of any more laws (that will effect only the law abiding negatively and have zero impact on criminals :-(

On second thought, perhaps I should be relived, haha!

I've found CMC 2-1/2lb drop-in triggers for the S&W M&P 15-22 .22LR carbines and pistols and am sure I will find similar for Ruger 10/22's so I guess I'll take that $430 and invest it in M&P 15-22 and 10/22 mags.

Still, I'm disappointed. I place a lot of faith / trust in the names Hammerli and Walther but, 8.5lbs; I just don't see any excuse for that. Wondering what the folks at Umarex were (or were not) thinking....
 
#14 ·
Still, I'm disappointed. I place a lot of faith / trust in the names Hammerli and Walther but, 8.5lbs; I just don't see any excuse for that. Wondering what the folks at Umarex were (or were not) thinking....
Wild assed guess on my part, but I wonder if they went with the 8lb trigger in order to avoid light hammer strikes?

These rifles are designed for fun shooting & not bench rest shooting. Therefore most folks will be using cheap bulk .22 ammo, IMO. (Or at least it used to be cheap.) No one enjoys a non-firing gun, so I bet R&R decided upon 8lbs being the magic number for cheap ammo.

Not to say one couldn't either do a spring swap (no idea what's available) or trim off a coil at a time to reach the balance of lighter trigger but still have reliability. I've not shot one of these, so I can't say what the trigger works look like or anything. My AR-22 is a Sig 522. While the trigger isn't fabulous, it certainly isn't 8lbs either.

My .o2