Remember that is Lapua ammunition, its some of the best 22LR ammo you can buy. I just bought my own TOZ-78 a couple of days ago, once I get it I'll post a few targets.

 

So, do the numbers mean that, for instance in the first pic, the grouping was 9mm at 50 yd range? Forgive me if this seems basic; I'm not very well versed yet.

 

I'm pretty sure, yes... Which is a .35 Inch group at 50 yards!

 

Has anyone here on the forums taken any pics of their groupings? I'm kinda skeptical of any website's claims, regardless of their motives, and since basically we can only trust that their measurements are accurate...

If someone can take their TOZ 78 to the range and take a couple of pics of the groupings, I'd very much appreciate it. I was very impressed with the one dime-sized grouping that hans04 posted a pic of, but I don't want to buy a rifle on the credit of just one photo...

 

The TOZ is way more accurate than a newbie can shoot.
In other words, since this is your first gun, don't worry about the gun's potential. You need to learn proper technique and any gun will be adequate for that.

My son shoots golf balls with his TOZ. He hits about 19 out of 20 consistantly; without any bench support. So the gun is sufficiently accurate for anyone to learn proper marksmanship.

You selection of ammo will probably have more affect on any of your groups than any particular choice of gun.

 

The TOZ is way more accurate than a newbie can shoot.
In other words, since this is your first gun, don't worry about the gun's potential. You need to learn proper technique and any gun will be adequate for that.

My son shoots golf balls with his TOZ. He hits about 19 out of 20 consistantly; without any bench support. So the gun is sufficiently accurate for anyone to learn proper marksmanship.

You selection of ammo will probably have more affect on any of your groups than any particular choice of gun.

I agree, the TOZ-78 looks like a rifle that is very capable of holding SUB MOA with match ammo. I'll post pics of my own once I get mine... In about 5-7 days.
Lapua ammunition is not really that expensive if you think about it, 15cents a round for pretty much the best ammo around is not bad at all to test out your rifle's capabilities. I'm definitely buying a couple of boxes..
I did buy a brick of Wolf Match Target and a brick of Aguila Golden Eagle Match!

 

Ok, here are two more 50 yd targets from the TOZ after I put the lower rings on it to reset zero. These were shot off of an improvised rest, and it was COLD! The shots were somewhat hurried, but not quite rushed. I have not floated the bbl. yet, but in the meantime, I know the rifle is once again "on". The top group is with Federal Champion bulk, and the bottom is with Remington Subsonics. Not match ammo by any means. The calipers are set at 1/2" in the pic for reference. I'm sure I could have done better if I wasn't shivering, but this at least shows the rifles potential.

hans04

 

Very Nice!!! :bthumb:

 

Wow. Thank you Hans. I am extremely impressed with those groupings.

I can't get it out of my head, so I've decided that I'll buy a TOZ 78. Sometime after my paycheck comes on Friday, I'll head to the nearest dealer and see about getting one ordered. Thanks for the info, and I'll be sure to post pics and such when it comes in.

 

When I float the bbl., I will try some Wolf MT and some other match ammo in it. The rifle is also deserving of a better scope, but while some badmouth BSA scopes, I really can't complain about this one. It is brighter and clearer than the Tasco and Simmons scopes in this price range. I will also probably do a simple jb weld bed job around the action screw area, and maybe a dab at the rear of the receiver where the rear action screw is. Nothing fancy, just a little jb weld and some saran wrap as a release agent. I picked this gun up as a knock around gun, but it turns out that it hangs right in there with my CZs. I wish they made one of these in .22 magnum as well.

hans04

 

[QUOTEI picked this gun up as a knock around gun, but it turns out that it hangs right in there with my CZs. I wish they made one of these in .22 magnum as well.

hans04[/QUOTE]

I agree - a .22 Magnum version would be great. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen. I'm surprised to see them offer the Biathalon Basic in .22 Magnum - way cool.

 

My factory stock TOZ78 with the factory Russian 'Cleanview' 4x telescope and mount has shot sub 1" groups at 50 yards off a crappy rest that was sitting on the hood of a friend's car...definitely not the best setup.

This was on a cold day with a pretty good breeze blowing at my back and no attempt was made to dope the wind. The shooting was done with only Wolf Match Target ammunition.

This one trip out to zero the scope and try for a few quick groups has been the rifle's only outing before the extreme cold weather set in.

 

I took the TOZ-78 to the range today... My cheapo BSA scope broke (couldn't adjust it up and down) so i still shot the lil one to see what groups it could get.
I shot pretty good groups, .5 to 1MOA with match target ammunition.
I really like this rifle and will post pictures tonight! I wasn't pissed about the scope because the rifle shot so good...
The rifle is very very light so it was hard for me to keep it steady, thats something I have to work on! Never had this happen with a rifle before, heh. Specially to control my pulse... This rifle is very good practice time.
The barrel is not free floating, the stock touches the barrel at the end of the stock on the bottom of the barrel... An easy fix.
Other than that the trigger is sweet, the mags worked flawlessly, everything was superb for a $130 dollar rifle! Now i need to clean the barrel, I really didn't "break it in" correctly... It's a 22LR!

 

The caliper was measuring .6 Inches, 5 shots... For some reason it's blinking...

Thats three groups, my first group was probably .5-.6 and it was ten shots. The barrel was clean though.

The two big groups are 10 shots the other ones are 5 each... The rifle seems to shoot the same with Match Eagle than with Target Match Wolf! (Wolf is twice $)...

 

Sweet. Thanks guys. I'm now very confident I made the right choice in this rifle.

I ordered one today from J&G Sales. The local dealers couldn't find one through distributors, and the websites I contacted were out of stock. J&G may actually be out of stock as well, which will annoy me greatly, but we'll find out.

Soon as she comes I'll get some pics of her, and more after I fire some groupings. Thanks for the info, all.

 

http://www.classicarms.us/

 

Ok, update:

J&G Sales is out of stock and not planning to get more anyitme soon. Classic Arms is the same. Who else sells the TOZ 78 and actually has one I can buy?

 

Look really hard - with Winchester becoming distributor for this rifle under their label (Wildcat), the TOZ will likely become hard to find. Much like the CZ 99 / Remington Model 5 situation.

 

I am now sad. I've been scouring the Net and can't find one.

Unhappy am I. Unhappy indeed.

 

Don't waste your time being unhappy - just need to dig up the bushes. This same thing occurs pretty often - you'll find one, but it isn't going to find you - you gotta find it. Go to Russian rifle forum - maybe someone there is interested in selling theirs, or an extra rifle they have. Haunt the For Sale / Trade and Want to Buy forums - you'll find one there, eventually. But you gotta hunt.

 

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1015

 

Ok then...

Sorry for the theatrics, btw. I'm not one to give up anyway.

Thank you for the link, robotizing. Has anyone ordered from this website? Is it reputable?

 

Centerfire has a couple hudred of the rifles. Thank you infinitely, Robotizing.

The only downside is that I have to order extra mags, as they only include 1 5rd mag with the rifle. Still, This is good news. Thank you again.

 

Yeah, they are *******s... You can also go to www.gunbroker.com I've seen a few there...

 

Glad to see someone hooked you up to acquiring your TOZ - I had forgotten that Centerfire systems was offering them for sale as well.