I prefer the older coopers, seems like when Wilson bought them, the finish was not as nice as the early models, as for value, around my neck of the woods people are asking about 1k more than a year ago

 

I don't own one.

IMO, unless the new ones are Better/Improved in some way, the old ones will at least Hold their value, if not increase.

Ruger No.1 is a perfect example. The Red Pad (older) versions typically command a small premium over the newer ones (black pad)

 

I am thankful that I personally have a few early one. Found with most manufacturers the quality tends to drop as the production becomes more streamlined and priority to cut cost. Haven’t had a chance to check out new one, yet.

 

I don’t know if my lgs still has all of them, but he had four scoped model 21s in from a a local shooter. Not my thing, but I thought fairly priced.
If anyone is into center fire, I can give you the name of the shop.

 

I guess I would say Cooper pricing is currently volatile. Some, especially the 57Ms in .22LR, seem to sometimes realize crazy prices, but other 57Ms in .17 HMR/HM2 and .22 WRM, and many of the centerfires, seem less in demand. Having said that, the discontinued M38s, especially the rifles chambered for the Hornet-based cartridges -- and especially the straight .22 Hornets -- do seem to be realizing a good premium, but maybe not to the extent of the .22 LR 57Ms.

 

Well Horseman , were not saving for our retirement, I'm not in a hurry
to sell my Coopers as there isn't much to replace them.

Maybe I should hold your JSR till you come to the right
decision and not make rash choices .

... skwerl

 

I can see a bump in value for the nice wood variants. Thinking slow return to production and inevitable price increase on the new ones. I have a couple centerfires and always hankered for some nice walnut on a JSR. Now I'm seeing over $3K for the Bell & Carlson stocked guns. Too rich for me. With Vudoo/Rim-X actions available there seems like so many more options. I wish we could buy the Jackson Hunter style stock for a build though.

 

Wish I had purchased them much earlier

 

You and me both 👍

 

Given the demographics of most gun buyers, I think they are pricing themselves out of the market. Unless they are going for low volume, high margins. Don’t think their pricing will support high volume. The economy will also affect sales. I know one of the first industries affected by a recession is the furniture industry for example. I don’t think high end firearms are far behind. I could be wrong.

 

I feel early Coopers are far superior to the later rifles, I won't buy a cooper made after 2010. You can see the differance if you compare the era's side by side. As far as the economy goes, I am having a hard time selling 1-3000 dollar rifles, 5000 plus are flying out as soon as I show them. Just my observations.

 

I had a JSR. Fluted stainless. Beautiful rifle.
Accuracy was not consistent. The most accurate and consistent rifle I've owned was a 40x usmc. It truly was a tack driver. Only cooper I've had. Others may be better in accuracy dept.

 

I don’t think prices for older Coopers are going anywhere but up. I had four and sold mine years ago. No regrets I enjoyed them. I do miss my old Kimbers

 

If I had to part with my 2005 build Custom Classic to-morrow, I'd literally have to give it away - The market for these types of 22's is extremely limited in my part of the world (Australia).

 

I'm curious about this- do you think the issue of your Custom Classic is due to the relatively new gun laws in Australia having people worried or confused about what they can or can't own, or is there just a very limited market there for high end rimfires?

 

The market is what the market is. I have two and and both (JS and Light V) they will not be leaving me until I leave them.

 

I have a feeling the price will rise. It’s hard to imagine the new owners won’t change things up a bit and make the demand for the older rifles rise. Not to mention none are being made right now.
Mi bid $3400 for one on gunbroker and someone thought it was worth more.
Iron

 

Considering what we are doing to the US Dollar (printing and fractional/no reserve banking) they will only go up...like just about everything else (some things more than others, of course).

I don't plan to part with my 2004 built 57M 22LR....unless I find something I want more and need to fund the purchase!

 

Considering what we are doing to the US Dollar (printing and fractional/no reserve banking) they will only go up...like just about everything else (some things more than others, of course).

So...........worth more dollars that are worth less.

 

I just love all the ads promoting physical gold for your IRA (please send us your worthless dollars for our precious gold!). Huh? Nothing wrong with a very modest investment (5 to 10% at most) in physical gold or silver as a hedge against inflation, though its recent track record ain't great. But putting physical gold in an IRA is, IMO, stupid! It pays nothing except your bet that it will keep up with or do better than inflation. AND you have to pay for storage. And what happens when you have to start your RMDs -- more hassle and expense to liquidate.

Best bet is to buy solid companies -- strong balance sheet and competitive market position (a "wide moat"), and paying a good dividend with consistent dividend growth over many years. You probably won't make a fortune overnight as with some go-go stocks, but far less risk of a major loss sometimes seen with go-go stocks. Though not a bad idea to bet with maybe 10% of your investments on one or two promising go-go stocks. Hokie maybe, but remember the tortoise and the hare parable.

Having said all that, my Coopers did pretty well for me.

Doug

 

@horseman2 - @coltpython3 - @RT8 - @Camster - @TEDDY BEAR RAT - @iron85 - @skwerl457

Hey guys, I've been reading all of your posts in the "COOPER" section concerning Cooper prices.

I'm an old man at 71 & joined several years ago but was out shortly after joining because of a stroke. Plus I was already semi disabled from shrapnel in my back & spine. I still love to shoot but now it's from my wheelchair at my home or when someone takes me to the range so that I can shoot at longer ranges.

Well enough of that. Before my stroke I was a competition shotgun shooter for 30+ years and a predator/varmint hunter - bench-rest shooter (my varmint rigs) - & a re-loader (for accuracy). Now back as normal as I can get from the stroke, I'm trying to get involved in the rimfire world of shooting & some local informal rimfire matches.

Thank you friends, I sincerely appreciate all of you! HAPPY NEW YEAR - 2024!!!

Best of luck to you all,

Jim Daniel
~ BCD 45
~SE Texas

 

My apologies to all. I made a mistake & posted this comment & pictures.

I had intended for it to be sent as a PM - SORRY GUYS!!!

BCD 45

 

71 isn’t old, or at least that’s what I try to tell my 71 year old aching carcass….It says otherwise.

 

I buy guns to shoot, and resale value is the last thing on my mind when I look at prices. If I want it, and can afford it, then I buy it.

Yes, I sell guns from time to time, but at whatever the market will bear - I don't mind taking the loss if I've enjoyed using it.

 

71 YRS isn't old , if you're a rifle.

 

Not a rifle, been called a pistol and a son-of-a-gun (at least I hope the word was "gun", hard of hearing). Old? Well, turning 79 in a couple of weeks - assuming I make it that far.

 

I am one of those old guys who greatly prefer wood. I only ever owned one plastic gun. I hated it. If I had an arm, a leg and a first born son to spare, I would buy a left handed Montana Varminter in 22 LR. Or at least I would if I had not just blown my budget on a CZ 457 and an Anschutz 1761 MPR. To many guns.. not enough time or money.

 

All I know about Cooper value
Lots of guys try selling them asking new price, and they still have them.
I have 57m bought new with fancy wood, 4 years ago.
And so far I haven't been offered within 1000 less than paid for it when I tried to sell it
I've a 4500 Anschutz,
So I'm saying there's no demand for them. Kinda spur of the moment like me buys em new n over pays , definitely not investment 22s

 

You will need to hang on to it a few more years to get your original investment back if you ever. The market is soft on these high priced fancy wood and blued steel rifles now. Not many buyers willing to pay 2500 dollars plus on high end rifles right now. Buyers are willing to pay for high end tactical rifles tho.

 

And even waiting does not mean the value will ever increase and depending on future trends values could even decrease.
A lot of things older generations put a certain value in the younger generations do not want at any price.

Antique furniture, silver serving and fancy china sets, certain collectables have fell off of a cliff since many of the older generation that fancied them have gotten old and died off.
Like has been noted tacticool black rifles are the new trend.

For hunting stainless and composite stocks less affected by weather and humidity with better corrosion resistance is usually more preferred and many of grandpa's older blued/walnut classics are in calibers such as .35 Rem Spl, 30.06 or .243 which again are considered old and in popularity have been replaced with more recently released calibers which now are being considered the new wonder calibers to own.

So hanging on to something just hoping prices may rebound could actually in the future bite you with just the opposite effect of prices and demand for something actually continuing to decline.