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Small .22 pistol with laser - recommendations?

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3.7K views 12 replies 11 participants last post by  werminator  
#1 ·
OK, here's the deal . . .

I recently got my FFL (actually, my LLC got its FFL) so my family members are asking me to find them guns. My father in law says he wants a small .22 pistol (semi-auto) with a laser. I guess he saw one somewhere and thought it was cool. Of course, he has no idea what he saw . . .

Here's what I THINK he wants:

.22 LR
semi-auto
built-in laser sight
small enough to carry in a coat pocket while he's out and about on the farm
light

I don't really know what he's going to use it for. What he told me is that he'd like to have it when he's out in the woods/fields and sees a snake or something. Personally, I think he just wants a toy. Putting aside the ethics/wisdom of randoming shooting snakes (what are the chances he'll really do that?) for a moment, what do you recommend?

My first thought was Walther P22 with the add-on laser. I figure it's a decent gun and he can toss aside the laser when he tires of the novelty. But I'm the first to admit that I haven't kept up with what's out there (I'm a pawnbroker, so I deal in guns -- I'm not really a "gun dealer"). Maybe there's a really slick package out there.

I'm not sure this is really important information, but we're talking about an 85-year old man who is very independent and on the go all the time. He is not technologically savvy, though. He's been around guns his whole life, but he's not really a "gun guy," in the sense that he only knows what he knows (and much of that is wrong) and he doesn't keep up with guns. Also, I'm probably going to end up paying for this, though he says he's buying it. I figure "about" $400 for a budget. Higher, if necessary.

What say the hive?
 
#3 · (Edited)
I'm not a big fan of laser sights; but I do have one on my home defense pistol (not a .22). I practice with it some . . . As a home defense gun, I practice "point and shoot". I have found the red laser to be just about worthless outdoors in the daylight. A green one would be a little better. So unless he plans on shooting snakes in a cave-- I'm not sure it would be all that good.

Like you said, "he knows what he knows" and he knows he wants a .22 pistol with a laser . . . I don't know anyone who markets such a "package"-- but I know what I know also, and there is MUCH I don't know-- so there might be a dozen of 'em available. I would think a trigger guard mounted laser on a small semi-auto could make a small enough package. The Walther P22 that you mentioned and whichfinger pictured looks like sure thing.
 
#4 ·
I'm not a big fan of laser sights; but I do have one on my home defense pistol (not a .22). I practice with it some . . . As a home defense gun, I practice "point and shoot". I have found the red laser to be just about worthless outdoors in the daylight. A green one would be a little better. So unless he plans on shooting snakes in a cave-- I'm not sure it would be all that good.

Like you said, "he know what he knows" and he knows he wants a .22 pistol with a laser . . . I don't know anyone who markets such a "package"-- but I know what I know also, and there is MUCH I don't know-- so there might be a dozen of 'em available. I would think a trigger guard mounted laser on a small semi-auto could make a small enough package.
Yep. It doesn't really matter why he wants it or whether it's a good choice. He's my wife's dad and that's what he wants . . .
 
#5 ·
Autos

1. Walther P22 with laser
2. Bersa Thunder/Firestorm with Crimson Trace

Revolvers

Smith & Wesson 317 with Crimson Trace

I personally favor the Crimson Trace options because of the activation switches. The Firestorm/CT combination is reviewed at www.gunblast.com.
I also like lasers on fixed sight guns that may not shoot to point of aim or those that may be used for defense. All of my pocket carry guns have CT grips.

God bless,

Hugh
 
#6 ·
If he is concerned about size as much as all the other requirements then the Walther may well be the way to go... Personally I think it is HARD to beat the reliability of a MKII or MKIII from Ruger but they are a bit bigger than the Walther... It is hard, though, to pick a gun for someone else as we all have different taste and different ideas of what constitutes light, comfortable, small, etc. If he is actually looking for a snake killer then you can't surpass the reliability of a pocket revolver and I have had a good deal of success with bird shot... I don't have much experience with lazer sighting systems, but I have seen a lazer that replaces the rear sight on the Ruger Mk series and casts a green beam out. When it comes down to it, though, it would seem as having a toy is more his reasoning (and mine too!) and for that purpose I do like the Walther... I just never got comfotartable with the short grip it has... My hand always put pressure on the slide one way or another...
 
#8 ·
Also look at the CDNN Investments deal on the Walther sp-22 m1 with a Walther lazer. Right about $300 plus your ffl fee. I have the M3 and love it but the M1 would pack quite well with a lazer.
 
#13 ·
Those laserlyte models can be found all over the place for much cheaper too! I saw a number of them on eBay going for half that! Bringing back to my input that for rimfire you just can't beat the long standing reputation and service behind the Ruger name...