I have the duplex version on my CZ that I use to shoot small bore silhouette. It is working fine for me, I have no complaints.

 

Hi Jeff,

I don't have an example of Sightron's Duplex to show you, but it is slightly finer than Weaver's Dual-X by the specs... .12" (SII) vs .13" (V16) at 16x at 100 yards.

I do have a couple pics of their dots, one from a SII 12x and the other from an SIIB 12x. The specs say that the dot is .5" at 12x at 100 yards, so it should be the same physical reticle as the specs say that the dot is .25" at 24x. The specs say that the wires are the same between the SII and SIIB (.02" at 100 yards), but I've found that not to be so as the SII has considerably thicker wires, however the dot is the same.

SII Dot

SIIB Dot

 

Hi Jeff,

I don't have an example of Sightron's Duplex to show you, but it is slightly finer than Weaver's Dual-X by the specs... .12" (SII) vs .13" (V16) at 16x at 100 yards

I'll see if I can help out here this afternoon.

 

I have the duplex version mentioned on my Remington 40X in 7.62NATO and I really enjoy it. The reticles are a bit thicker than I'm used to, but that's not the scope's fault. I usually shoot target dot or silhouette dot.

I'm very pleased with the scope considering its cost. It doesn't upset me moving from my Big Sky scopes to the SII.

I used SWFA's price matching to Big Supply Shop's price and saved some money.

http://swfa.com/PriceMatch.aspx

http://swfa.com/Sightron-6-24x42-SII-Riflescope-P40519.aspx

http://www.bigsupplyshop.com/Sightron-SII-Series-Scope-6-24x42mm-20014_p_10843.html

 

I have the SII 36x42 BRD (dot) and a Weaver T-36 with dot, I wouldn't turn around for the difference.
I think you will like the SII as I am very satisfied with mine.

 

So .25" dot would be twice as big your Weavers dot which is 1/8"

I think a 1/4" at 100 yds would work but it would be nice to look through one in person and I can't find one around here

I will keep thinking and waiting for more input.....thanks Guys and keep it coming



JEFF

 

Tracking on the Sightron will be at least equal to and likely better than what you're accustomed to with the Weaver V series.

 

According to Sightrons measurements on their duplex the inner fine wire is.08"

http://info.sightron.com/Riflescopes/SII-Series/SII624x42/

Click on Technical Details

JEFF

 

According to Sightrons measurements on their duplex the inner fine wire is.08"

That is correct, but at 16x, it will be .12".

I just gave that comparison to the V16 since the V24 has no available Dual-X.

If the V24 did have a Dual-X... at 24x it would subtend .0866" at 100 yards.

 

I see.....I was reading too fast.....so if the Sightrons duplex is that fine then I think I would like it better than the dot........should be close to Leupolds fine duplex?

What ya think ?


JEFF

 

I see.....I was reading too fast.....so if the Sightrons duplex is that fine then I think I would like it better than the dot........should be close to Leupolds fine duplex?

What ya think ?

JEFF

I don't think that it's quite that fine, but then with the way that Leupold rounds up the values on their subtension chart, you'd be better off getting a Leupold technician to give you the actual physical reticle size of their fine duplex and then we could calculate more accurate subtension values for a certain magnification using the known field of view from a specific Leupold scope.

Is the varmiter in the Weaver V 24 finer than the dual -X ?

JEFF

Much finer...

Clearidge's Duplex/dot aka Weaver's Varminter...

Dual-X...

 

Is the varmiter in the Weaver V 24 finer than the dual -X ?


JEFF

 

Just ordered this one (dot reticle )

http://www.bigsupplyshop.com/Sightron-SII-Series-Scope-6-24x42mm-10119_p_10844.html

Ordered from SWFA.....they matched the price plus 10% of the difference....saved about $10.00........total shipped $373.75

The price looks the same but that is without shipping.

Hope I like the target dot

JEFF

 

Hey Jeff that is really great deal. looks good too...hope it works for you. :bthumb:

I don't know if I can take it any more: first the BRJ, then the 3 CZ rifles, then the Vortex and Leupold scopes...now dangling another scope in front of me...

Please send me some Money seeds...so this poor guy can have some too. :AR15firin :AR15firin :AR15firin

"Barrel Whip" now that had me rolling...LOL....the other is a little high...working on that.

Signalman

 

JEFF

 

Jeff....NOW THATS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.... I was wondering how you got all this stuff lately...was that from all that ammo you had at the warehouse?? Do you have any ammo left.

Maybe with all that I can go buy a $ 40 dollar set of scope rings. :AR15firin :AR15firin:AR15firin

I am glad you finally got it.

Signalman

 

JEE, or some of you guys who have a clear understanding of subtensions:

At a given magnification power, which of the following have the finer wires at the center point of aim?

Specs for the above 6-24x42 per the website http://info.sightron.com/Riflescopes/SII-Series/SII624x42/ measured in inches:
Min Power
A = 20
B = .33
C = 1.33

Max Power
A = 5.0
B = 0.8
C = .33

Or.....

 

Hi I6turbo,

The subtension for Vortex shown is at 14x and the reason they do that is likely because it's the power in which the mildot reticle is correctly sized. Also, this is listed in mils.

To convert... 1 mill = 3.6 inches at 100 yards... so multiply .05 mil by 3.6" and it equals .18 inch at 100 yards on 14x.

To get the subtension at 20x, you would divide 14 by 20 and then multiply that by .18" which would be .126" at 100 yards.

Since that particular Vortex only goes up to 20x, to compare it to the Sightrons reticle specs at 24x we would need to convert one or the other to the same magnification. If we convert the Sightron to 20x, the formula would be 24 divided by 20 and multiply that by .08" (the Sightron's subtension at 24x). The result is .096".

The Sightron's reticle is considerably finer. .096" vs. .126" at 100 yards on 20x.

 

Thanks!

 

Sure thing.

 

This is a picture of a 1/4" target dot I had at one time on a Weaver Super Slam 5-20x50. Pic at 20x at 100 yds.

So I think the Sightron dot should be similar............if I ever get it ........BACK ORDERED

JEFF

 

That's a good size.

 

Hey Jeff I sent you a PM did you get it??

Signalman