Do you know that the 504 is out of production? Which caliber are you interested in? Many of the 22LR versions shot horribly and the only solution was to rebarrel them. Remington remarketed the rifle as the 547 and bumped the price to $900-1000. Used 504's can be found for $300-350. The other calibers shot OK though.

For the price of a 504 new I would buy a CZ 452 or 453 Varmint or find a Rem 541T.

 

I really like mine.. Mine will produce 5 round 50yd. groups of 1" using HV hunting ammo. Around 3/4" with standard velo ammo. With match grade such as Ely Match EPS or even Wolf Match target it will group between 1/2"--5/8". Certainly not bench rest quality performance but not bad. It was produced as a hunting rifle after all and certainly produces more accuracy than I can use. Others on this forum have not been happy with theirs . I can only speak from personal experience with the one I own.

 

I recently shot a couple of groups with mine at 50 yards, using RWS R-50, and they were .30". The factory barrel is free-floating and the action pillar-bedded. Self-done, of course.

Only from my "cold dead hands" would anyone get that baby!

Picher

 

Thank you folks, I will look into the CZ one...

 

Yes

You should buy a new 504 thbls before you can't find anymore. The .22 thbls (target heavy barrel laminated stock) version has no problems like the sporter version. It is extremely accurate like it's previous version the 541t model with beautiful wood and silky smooth action. With the limited production run and the lack of sales ,because of sporter problems, this version will be highly sought after in the coming years, many people missed out on a very nice gun because the price initially scared them, then the sporter problems confused them further. I own a 504thbls in .17 hmr and it is my favorite gun.

 

You should buy a new 504-LS-HB before you can't find anymore. The .22 thbls (target heavy barrel laminated stock) version has no problems like the sporter version. It is extremely accurate.....I own a 504-LS-H in .17 hmr...

Right! mine is accurate in the extreme. :bthumb:

 

I just bought a 504T two weeks ago...the heavy barrel, laminated stock version. I really like it. I've only had it out to the range once and it shoots nice.

My only problem is the scope. The dealer I bought it from gave me a knockout deal on a Leupold scope. All my rifles have Nikon scopes which I prefer. The eye relief on the Leupold is just too sensitive for me. I'll probably change the Leupold out for a Nikon.

Anyway, I think the 504T is a good rifle and is a good investment. The "T" model does not have the usual problems associated with the standard sportster model.

I went to Remington's website and did a dealer lookup "within 500 miles of my zip code." I got on the phone and found a dealer not far from me that had one 504T left in stock. Price was $649.00. I drove to the dealer the next day and bought it.

Bottom line...The 504T gets my vote.

 

the only reason i bought a 504 instead of another cz is cuz its american made was very dissapointed when i first shot it 1.5 to 2.0 at 50yards with wolf match extra,swaped scopes around to see if that was the problem,still shot bad, free floated the barrel, this made an amazing difference its pretty cool to watch all your bullets go into one hole.will even shoot most bulk ammo from 1/2 to 5/8 my cz american will shoot match ammo 3/8 and under bulk 1/2 to 3/4 still like the feel of the cz better than the remy.

 

Some 504s (new or used) are the ticket to heaven no question. Balance of these rifles is superb. They are hard to find now. You take a chance on accuracy when you get one. I had one in .22LR and the accuracy was fine. Others have had problems with theirs in accuracy.

 

Remington remarketed the rifle as the 547 and bumped the price to $900-1000.

Not even close to reality. You obviously have not seen a 547. The 547 is much closer to a 541-S.

I would consider buying a NIB (unfired) 504 at this point, but not at a premium price. There are too many shooters who bought them and they didn't perform in 22LR. So they sold them. I don't want someone else's reject rifle. You can get 541-T's for around $400-$450 which is about the price of a new Savage Mark II Classic. Those are some pretty rifles!

Consider a Savage Mark II Classic as an alternative choice or dig up a 541-S or 541-T.

 

My Quote:
Remington remarketed the rifle as the 547 and bumped the price to $900-1000.

Not even close to reality. You obviously have not seen a 547. The 547 is much closer to a 541-S.

How was my statement "Not even close to reality????"
If you like the 547 and the 541-S then thats great. But don't bad mouth someone else's comment when it is truthfull.
Show me how many parts of a 541-S that are interchangeable with a 504. Remington took the 504 and gave it a polished blue job, a better bolt handle, a better barrel and a new model #. It is the same rifle, but nicer quality. They remarketed the 504. They made the 504 prettier and a better shooter.

Maybe you should read Remington's own Press Release about the 547:

http://www.remington.com/library/press/2008/firearms/2008-10.asp

http://www.gunreports.com/news/long_guns/Remington-547-Rimfire-Rifle_382-1.html

http://www.remington.com/library/press/2008/firearms/2008-10.asp

 

Do you like Crow??

I am in agreement that the $$$ spent is better spent with a 541T HB. There are many,many-Did I say many !! unsatisfied 504 owners out there. If you get a bad one you had better place it between two pieces of bread Cause you will have to eat it.
The 541 T on the other hand have a very viable resale market and the chance of one not shooting are very slim.
Jim :Blasting_

 

I have a 541S, a 541T sporter, a 504 Sporter, and a 504THB. The 504 Sporter now wears a Lilja EPS match barrel, because the original was about a ½" @ 50 rifle, and I wanted it to shoot better. That it really does now!! The 541's and the 504THB were all superb shooters right from the get-go, and will make some guys really sit up and take notice when I put 5 into ½-¾" at 100 meters [109 yards] I can heartily recommend the 504 THB. The Sporter barrelled 504 is an iffy proposition. Only buy one if you can get it cheap enough to rebarrel, should the need become apparent. Regards, Eagleye.

 

This AM: My 504 LS-HB .17 HMR w/ 36X Weaver emerged victorous against the Coopers, Annies, etc; equiped w/ their Leupold scopes.

THAT'S why you should buy one ASAP. Just IMHO of course.

 

buy it

If you like the look and feel of the 504 go for it. I have yet to see one that truely would not perform it's intended duties. Haven't heard of a single one that FTF FTE or any other malfunction for that matter. Only complaints I've seen are from purchasers of sporter weight guns not grouping as well as they think they should. As for me I have one in 17M2 and it shoots 1/2" to 3/4" at 50yrds certainly no bench gun but last time I checked a squirrels head was about 3" dia. and the last one I looked at through my scope wound up with less than half that when I pulled the trigger. Only thing I would suggest is to look at the Sako Quad they can be had for just a little more if you can live with the synthetic stock. They are a definite bargain right now around $425 on GB and just ask the guys on the Sako forum, their Awsome!:bthumb:

 

No one has mentioned the trigger on the 504/547. How low will it adjust? Will the after market 700 triggers fit? bob finger

 

I'm not sure how low the 504 trigger will adjust to, however, mine went to 1-1/4 lb.

 

No bad mouthing here. Ralfus, I hope you feel better now.

What's wrong with the rifle being based on the 504? It is not a 504 as they came from the factory. It is also based on the Model 700, does that make it a re-make of the Model 700? The "bump in price" may have something to do with what Remington did to it to make it the 547.

 

I don't think Ralfus is the one who needs to feel better after the schooling he just gave you on how the 547 is more related to the 504 than the 541.

If you want to bring in aesthetics, sure, you've got something there. But there's a lot more to a rifle than how it looks.

Ironically, I find the 541 models to closely resemble the 788 in centerfire.

 

I can them through a place called zanders for around 450.00 I believe and they have 20 of them I would have to call to find out some more info on them

 

I feel just fine. I have high expectations from products made by Remington. That included the 504 until all the bad press started rolling in on the forums. I planned on buying one. I planned on buying a 597.... same deal.

Looks are very important to me. I expect the quality to match the looks if a product is manufactured by Remington. 547's look great! I hope they shoot great too. Why else would I buy a Model 700 BDL over the old ADL version? Why would I spend $1000 on a 547 when I can buy a 541-T for less than half that? I suspect it is a real hint when you find an instruction manual for the 504 included with the 547.

I may yet buy a 504, just because, but it will have to be NIB (unfired). Did I say I'm not a gunsmith? I wouldn't know a custom barrel over a factory barrel unless someone told me. I just shoot them. I don't fix them.

 

I have to agree with you that both the 504 and the 597 has had way too many dissapointing stories for my taste.

With that said, I do own 2 504s but have less than $700 combined into them. That may change though if I decide to get a Lilja barrel for one.

And don't get me going on my favorite Remington rimfire of all time, the 541. I think I have every variation except the maple stock model. (541-S, 541-T, 541-THB & 541-X)

 

Hi, I have two Remington 504 rifles. One is a 504T LSHB in 17HMR, and the other is a sporter in 17M2. I like the Remington 504 very much. I think that they have a nice flush fitting magazine, a very good fully adjustable trigger, one of the smoothest rimfire bolt actions I've encountered, a classic stock design with good dimensions and checkering is quite nice. I once owned a sporter 504 in 22lr, and the accuracy was minute of squirrel ok, but didn't keep up with other bolt action 22's that I already owned.
After all this rambling on, one of your questions were "can I compete with it". I'm assuming that you were referring to one in 22lr caliber, and if that's the case, there is a fair chance that the answer could be no. I think they are a good rifle, and I don't want to part with either of mine, but that is an honest answer.

 

I had my 504THB out a couple of days ago, nice windless day with light overcast. Along with it, I also brought my Anschutz 54 Match, and my Remington 40X rimfire. I have the same optics on them all, 6.5-20 EFR Leupolds. The 504 made a very good showing for itself, showing a marked preference for Lapua Master L of the lot I have. The 40X does it's best with ELEY Match EPS from the #1 machine, and the Anschutz likes the ELEY Tenex Ultimate EPS from the #3 machine. The two true match rifles definitely have an edge on the 504, but I was not at all disappointed, since the price difference is quite obvious. I shot many groups in the .26-.35" area with it at 50 meters, while the other rifles stay in the high .1's and low .2's
Out at 100, the same difference ratio was evident. I'm going to say the 504THB was a decent investment @ $600.00. Regards, Eagleye.

 

My 504 has been pillar and glass bedded and floated. It wears a Burris compact scope and shoots sub 1/2" 50yrd groups w/Federal Gold Medal Target. I lke my 504.

 

If it a rifle that you think you want, get it. I did and love the one I got. I purchased it when the rumor mill started that they don't shoot. I found that it shot and shot extremely well.
I still say that this gun died by the net. To much bad gossip from those who did not own the firearm. I do. And would recomend it, too.


Ern

 

I have been happy with mine. $400 a month to two ago with one exception.

Mine is for off hand practice (cheaper to shoot than my centerfires, duh) and for squirrel hunting.

I was also a bit nervous with all I had read, but took the plunge and glad I did.

The only problem is the bolt handle loosened yesterday, so I have to figure that out.

Other than that, nice rifle for the price.

 

I had the same problem with the bolt handle. I put in a little loc tite and problem solved.

Ern

 

Hi guys,
I'm new to the board and found my way here in my effort to build a 22 trainer rifle to improve my rifle marksmanship.

I'm heavily leaning towards a 504 Remington. I would like to have a 504 THB, but they seemed to have dried up. Sporter versions seem plentiful, and I have no problems ordering a new Lilja drop-in to replace the factory sporter barrel.

My question for the guys in the know is, other than the stock, (which I'll try to replace with the HB laminate version) is there any other pitfalls that a guy might run into with the 504 Sporter that gave them such a bad rep.

Thanks,
Ken