Others have reported far better results here and elsewhere.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1069170

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1060818&page=2

Too bad the one you had didn't give you want you were looking for, but one has to look at more than one set of results.

Plus the rifle is only one part of the equation.

 

Ruger "Precision" rifle



With all the talk in this thread about this Ruger "Precision" rifle, I can find it described by Ruger as a "target" rifle, not as as "Precision" rifle. It seems to me that the word Precision would rank higher than target. So correct me if I'm wrong because I am an avid reader of all posts, I believe this is the first I have ever posted. So read each post again in this thread, insert the correct Target description everywhere the word Precision is used, so what say you now.

 

He is an admitted CZ snob; I boubt that that he's even able to come up with an unbiased opinion of a Ruger rifle, nothing can ever as good as a CZ. As stated the rifle is only the tool; it's the shooter that makes the difference. I think if the shooter doesn't have confidence in the rifle he rarely shoot as well as they think they can.

 

This is FYI only and I will not be following up on this review for rebuttal.

In other words, you only came here to flame, not discuss.

 

sad state of affairs



Who are you to put the OP's comment "in other words"? He's entitled to his opinion and I appreciate his (admittedly brief) review of the rifle he tried.

The notion that his critique is a "flame" is unfair and juvenile, just as is the criticism of almost anything societal-related being labeled as "hate speech".

Person A has the right to say "I don't like Kentucky Fried Chicken". That doesn't make him/her a "hater".

Participating in group-think is cause for concern and introspection, not celebration.

 

Ruger makes no claim for a special match grade barrel with this rifle. It is the same as any other RAR. Why all the uproar? The accuracy of individual RAR will vary. I got one that is pretty darn near 1 moa. I have seen another which is about 2mao. It happens. Note 2 moa is 1 inch at 50 yards and not unreasonable for this price point/quality rimfire. I dont get the cleaning comment. No need for that.

These days quality will vary for most makers. I have had disappointment with several builders. I got pretty vocal or keystrokes to share that experience. There is no reason to slander the OP. He got a bad one. It happens. He will get over it.

On the other hand, the OP has to share some responsibility for expecting a match grade gun when Ruger makes no claim and certainly is not charging match grade prices. Assuming the OP expected 1 moa. That is a reasonable hope. It is a gamble. You pay your money and takes your chances.

 

Well put.

 

Just out of curiosity; when Ruger says "Precision Rifle", what do they mean, and what can you realistically expect? I would expect a little better than normal, based on it's name.
I'll have to say that I have a love/hate relationship with Ruger. I want to like them so much, because they're from my state, and their machine work is nice. I have owned/currently own more than one. I bought a 77/22 LR that I will never part with, but I finally had to send it to Randy at CPC to make it worth my while to keep it. That rife alone had accuracy issues, what looks like an assembly problem, and the manual is incorrect in regards to it's disassembly.
Pretty much most all of the Rugers I have laid my hands on has some sort of silly, weird thing about them.

I recently bought a MK IV, like that one so far, and is solves another of Ruger's issues - take down.

 

Just out of curiosity; when Ruger says "Precision Rifle", what do they mean, and what can you realistically expect?

They are referring to the stock design, bolt handle, etc. I am not sure, it maybe the barrel can be replaced more easily?

I see there were pointers to some reviews. That is probably better than my opinion. IMHO - You have luck of the draw combined with how sophisticated the the owner is in dealing with potential issues. My guess is that if you can find a brand or lot that delivers an AVERAGE of 5 shots at 50 yards under 1/2 inch you should be very happy. But; if you see 1 inch you have no complaint. The model name is not a factor.

I think this is a bit misleading to imply or use subtle different verbage on the Precision. Or am I wrong? Is excellent better than exceptional?

The Ruger American

Cold hammer-forged barrel results in ultra-precise rifling that provides exceptional accuracy, longevity and easy cleaning.

The Ruger Precision

18" target barrel is cold hammer-forged from 1137 alloy steel to create ultra precise rifling for excellent accuracy.

 

The way I read things when Ruger first announced this rifle is that it is designed as a trainer for the "real" RPR not as an actual match grade rifle. It seems that for the most part that is how it performs.

 

What a "troll"
There is no "review" just some anecdotal statement.
Pretty sad.

This is FYI only and I will not be following up on this review for rebuttal.

Buyer Beware

 

Been watching the RPR threads here and other forums.

I like the concept and was itching to get one however I am afraid with my luck I would get one like the OP. On average they could do better and I would be in.

I would give it a longer run with a few more ammo types but in the end if it did not outshoot an out of the box Marlin 60 I would not be happy in the least with it being a bolt gun.

There seems to be a few more guns that have better accuacy averages for +/- a few bucks.

Not a Ruger hater by any means I own more than my share.

Maybe after a few barrel makers get involved I might do one, until then I would only buy one I could shoot.

YMMV as always:bthumb:

 

Sounds like it didn't like that particular ammo and was going to force it to like them...but didn't try anything else, my cz 452 varmint is super picky....but lucky for me it likes cci blazers!

 

I have been trying to find one in stock to handle. But I will say this, if some starts making aftermarket barrels (especially lightweight ones), I will buy one. This rifle is perfect for my kids except the weight.

Maybe I will reach out to Randy at CPC to see if he has considered working on them.

I wish Ruger would have at least used a bentz chamber.

Overall it’s a 400.00 gun.

 

Precision Rifle

Just like the Mini-14 Target with the heavy weight on the front. It was no way a target rifle. Just cost a 1000.00 doesn't make it precision.

 

Did you try other ammo? Claiming a gun is junk because it won't give good groups with the ammo you tell it to shoot is unfair. Not all guns shoot the same ammo with the same accuracy. The gun will tell you the ammo it likes......It is just like reloading for centerfires....you have to try different recipes.
If I threw away every gun that didn't shoot good groups with the first recipe I tried I wouldn't have any left.

Darrell

 

Something that I haven't figured out yet is that we buy a $400 rimfire already knowing/thinking that we will be buying a new barrel that costs 50% or more of the original purchase.

I bought one but not really sure it is any more accurate than my other Rugers. Maybe it will shape up or maybe it just be what the grand kids learn on when they come over to shoot on the weekends (it does look cool and holds a suppressor)

 

Most everyone in this hobby/sport does upgrades. I've bought Ruger 10/22s and stripped them down & rebuilt them to the point where the only original part was the receiver, or another component that was desireable. I ended up spending a lot more than the original 10/22 but I built up what I wanted in configuration and/or performance.

Whether firearms or "cars" that all comes with the hobby.

 

As most of us know there are many variables involved in how well a firearm performs. IMO the weakest link is the shooter.

If I judged the accuracy of every rifle I have by what I got from shooting an Anschutz 1403 free rifle in college I wouldn't have many rifles, nor did I blame the 1403 when I pulled a flyer and called it because I screwed up the shot.

I'm not going to blame the gun when I screw up, only use one type of ammo and/or shoot in bad conditions that aren't conducive to accurate shooting.

Does the industry send out some lemons due to a slip in QC? Sure. But when someone claims something doesn't perform the way they expected when other reports are contrary one needs to weigh those against each other.

Most of us tweak, upgrade and test our toys to get the most out of them and ourselves.

Is the RPRim an Anschutz free rifle? No. But both have their place in the sport.

My .02

 

Precision Ruger

One of the listers mentioned "CPB". Is this a gunsmithing outfit? I'm always looking for good ones.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
-dozo46

 

One of the listers mentioned "CPB". Is this a gunsmithing outfit? I'm always looking for good ones.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
-dozo46

If you're talking about Randy at CPC - he is a site sponsor I think still and it's

ct-precision.com

He does a lot of 10-22 barrels and bolt work as well a 77/22 guns. Don't know what else he does.

Go over to the 10-22 section of this forum and you see a lot mentioned about him.

As to another comment about spending money on upgrading a barrel on a 400.00 gun.

Well, I look at it this way.

If I wanted a rifle to do all the things that the Ruger PR is offering and shoot more accurate, I would be into it a lot more.

Example

CZ 455 - (Lets say you get a shooter and don't need a barrel) Threaded 400.00
XLR chassis (much better than the Ruger chassis but its the closet to what the RPR has) 600.00
Bolt knob - ~60.00
Pictanny rail ~30.00

SO for 1,100.00 I can have a rifle and chassis that will do what the RPR does (except it won't use all the 10-22 mags) or I can buy a 400.00 RPR and hope someone makes a 200.00 barrel to increase the accuracy like Kidd, Feddersen, Lilja (probably be expensive), Beyer, Whistlepig, Tacsol, GM, etc... for a total of 600.00. It would save me 500.00 which I can spend on optics or whatever.

 

thx for the short review. i bought a 10/22t, beautiful "target" rifle but it didn't shoot like a target gun so i built a 10/22 of my own. still not good accuracy.

i inherited dad's ruger 22/77 with leopld scope. beautiful gun that shoots very nicely. haven't tried it on paper yet as my nephew has snagged it but i like ruger's production quality. accuracy is something else; all my 10/22s [5 so far] have shot flyers. haven't figured out why, usually the first round in a clip.

 

Cold barrel will cause a flyer. In NRA small bore competition, firing a "fouling shot" or two is standard practice and will heat the barrel to operating temperature. Give it a try. Just fire one into the backstop and score the following shots.

 

I shoot USBR targets at 50yds. I was unable to shoot groups under 1" at 50 yds. because of the flyers I shoot SK Standard Plus. Buyer Beware

My wife shoots smallbore F-class, I shoot smallbore conventional prone. We decided to compete in precision rimfire matches just for something to do in the winter.

Our single shot target rifles were not to practical for this. So we decided to buy a couple of repeaters.

Based on numerous reports on this and other forums that the RAR grouped .5" to .75" at 50 yards (with mid range ammo) we bought two of them with consecutive s/n's.

From a bipod, with 20X SWFA scopes, with Lapua Center-X, at 50 yards both rifles consistently printed 1.5" to 2.0" five shot groups. At 100 yards and beyond it got real ugly.

Bad luck of the draw times two? Maybe.

That or a lot of folks have a different method for measuring group size than we do.

 

Did you get the same Ruger 22s as discussed in this thread? The abbreviation "RAR" is typically used to describe the Ruger American Rimfire line of 22s vs. the Ruger Precision Rimfire as discussed in this thread.

If you got and shoot the RAR you have a different Ruger 22 model. There's a subforum for the Ruger American Rimfire (RAR) and link to it at the top of this page.

 

Based on numerous reports on this and other forums that the RAR was a .5 to .75 MOA rifle (with mid range ammo) we bought two of them with consecutive s/n's.

REALLY!!

Note 0.5 moa is a 1/4 inch center to center group at 50 yards. Are we on the same page?

 

You got me - those numbers should have been inches, not MOA.

 

Ruger recision rifle

LOOK EVERYBODY, I will clear some confusion:::

The Ruger 8348 is described by Ruger as a "TARGET" rifle
"Cold forged hammer 0.680 target barrel for exceptional accuracy"

The Ruger 8400 is described by Ruger as a "PRECISION" rifle
"Cold hammer forged from 1137 alloy steel to create ultra precise rifiling for excellent
accuracy."

****so here we have two rifles named differently and with apparently different barrell material and more precision rifiling.
The term PRECISION has been used soo much in your Ruger threads that I doubt this post will kill the demon. I know I like the best accuracy I can get, and though I dont like black/military style guns, I will buy the 8400 because it is made to perform to greater precision. Tell me I'm full of it if you will, if I'm wrong I would like to be corrected and informed. Rod

 

LOOK EVERYBODY, I will clear some confusion:::

The Ruger 8348 is described by Ruger as a "TARGET" rifle
"Cold forged hammer 0.680 target barrel for exceptional accuracy"

The Ruger 8400 is described by Ruger as a "PRECISION" rifle
"Cold hammer forged from 1137 alloy steel to create ultra precise rifiling for excellent
accuracy."

****so here we have two rifles named differently and with apparently different barrell material and more precision rifiling.
The term PRECISION has been used soo much in your Ruger threads that I doubt this post will kill the demon. I know I like the best accuracy I can get, and though I dont like black/military style guns, I will buy the 8400 because it is made to perform to greater precision. Tell me I'm full of it if you will, if I'm wrong I would like to be corrected and informed. Rod

The Ruger 8400 has a more military appearance.

https://ruger.com/products/precisionRimfire/models.html

The Ruger 8348 has a more sporter appearance.

https://ruger.com/products/americanRimfireTarget/specSheets/8348.html

Regarding the barrels they are likely made from the same steel but are configured and attach to the two rifles differently since the rifles are different. But they use the same 10/22 magazines.

A lot of what Ruger names and describes is marketing language.

You're not full of it. I hope some of this clarifies things.

BTW I also have the Ruger 8348 and it's an accurate rifle. There's a lot of discussion of it on the other sub-forum, above.

 

Ruger "Precision" rifle

My post which was just meant to clarify something I think can muddy up discussions. I believe in the future one should give the model number when discussing Ruger Target 8348 and Precision 8400-8401 rifles, because it appears to me that they are not the same, specifically the barrel, and are not made to perform to the same level. Ruger had a reason to name them differently, it was not a typo. Give me your opinions and knowledge, I like to hear from you all. Rod

 

My post which was just meant to clarify something I think can muddy up discussions. I believe in the future one should give the model number when discussing Ruger Target 8348 and Precision 8400-8401 rifles, because it appears to me that they are not the same, specifically the barrel, and are not made to perform to the same level. Ruger had a reason to name them differently, it was not a typo. Give me your opinions and knowledge, I like to hear from you all. Rod

Yes, the Ruger Target 8348 (aka RART) and Precision 8400-8401 rifles are not the same, although they may share some heritage.

That being said, the Ruger Precision 8400-8401 rifles are the same rifles but differ based on the magazines (10 rd vs. 15 rd) that come with them.

 

I also bought the precision rifle. The accuracy was not consistent right out of the box. At about 400 rds using tac22 the rifle settled in. Consistent groups at about 3/8 of a inch at 50 yds. I’m very pleased with this gun. May not be *** accurate as some of my cz’s But it’s ran close...Norma tac, rws50 and Norma match, cci sv all sabothe same ......

 

And as you all can see, the OP accomplished exactly what he/she wanted to,

The tile of the thread is "REVIEW" there is absolutely NO review. It is a statement/comment with no real facts

"Talk among yourselves"

Read page #37 of the manual:

https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/RugerPrecisionRimfire.pdf

 

Wow my 77/22 shoots under a half at 50, some in same hole.I got one of the last ones made. This is with CCI standard and 6 pound trigger pull. - Locoman

 

Went and shot 15 types of 22lr this weekend, will do more later.

The RPR rimfire loves Fed gold metal Ultra match and Fed gold metal Match.
50 YD 5 shot groups from .387 to .198( the best of the day was Fed gold metal Match).

Fed gold metal target, CCI std vel, CCI sgb, Wolf match target, PMC moderator, Geco 22 sa, CCI suppressor, Norma Tac 22, RWS target rifle, CCI green tag, Fed auto match, Magtech 22 sv. American eagle suppressor all shot 3/4 to over 1 inch.

The wind picked up and could not do any 100 yd groups.

Picked up some different Eley ammo this weekend to try later.

This rifle will shoot, you just have to find out what it likes

 

Thanks for the range report.

And I totally agree with your last statement.