For those who shoot shoot rimfire steel challenge with a 10/22 , please share your set up ? Thanks in advance ?
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ChrisD46
All three of mine are different, that said when "building" a 10/22 for Steel Challenge or Rimfire Challenge there's probably 10 million different combinations you could come up with.
The guy I shoot Steel Challenge with shoots a bone stock 10/22 and does very well.
The one on the right in the wood Boyds stock is the heaviest of the three and I shoot it the fastest.
The one in the middle in the Taccom stock feels the best when shouldered and swings the fastest but I tend to overrun the plates.
good luck!
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The guy I shoot Steel Challenge with shoots a bone stock 10/22 and does very well.
The one on the right in the wood Boyds stock is the heaviest of the three and I shoot it the fastest.
The one in the middle in the Taccom stock feels the best when shouldered and swings the fastest but I tend to overrun the plates.
good luck!
I have a Ruger with a 1.5-5x Leupold and never felt I could do any better with any other rifle or scope.
No need to go nuts with all kinds of modifications to the stock 10/22 unless you really want to tune it up if needed. It does a pretty good job right out of the box.
If you're shooting RFRO just add your favorite optic and have at it.
Some of the iron sights that come on the stock rifles could be better but there are a few that are adequate, stock.
Made, A, M and GM with your basic stock 10/22 and an 8MOA Burris Fastfire 3 optic.
AD
Just finished this one. TacSol barrel, C-More 12 MOA Dot, BX trigger, Magnum Research Stock. It's not going to make me a better shooter but it's a lot lighter than it was when I got it.
Have shot the Steel Challenge a couple of times here in the UK, most of the competitors use a scope, but I notice that the ones in the pictures you have sent in have either a red dot or holographic sights, are these better for fast target acquisition?
A dot or holo can be much faster if the shooter is good with it. Takes about half the time to get on target.
I have to practice a lot to get use to one.
I have to practice a lot to get use to one.
I'm much faster with a red dot sight. I've been using them on my pistols for many years and compare my times against iron sights. The scope makes me slow down too much trying to find the targets. Field of view with the dots are much bigger making it easier to find your targets.
The fastest target acquisition is instinctive shooting, not looking down the sights. The next fastest is shooting a shotgun where you are just looking down the barrel. After that, my own experience is little help in comparison as I have shot iron sights all of my life, a lot of scope sights and red dots maybe a half dozen times. For me, iron sights are a bit faster than a scope. The times I tried the red dots, holograph type, I had to tilt the gun and experiment to get it to show. That makes it the slowest, at least for me. For what it is worth, hunting dangerous game in Africa, the professional hunters often use a big double with a huge ivory bead. Back to similar with the shotgun style target acquisition.
There is a learning curve for a dot. Many dots are mounted much higher than irons so with one's usual presentation the dot won't be there. This leads to "finding the dot". It's pretty easy to identify someone doing it becasue they're twisting the gun around looking for the dot. Much of this can be remedied with lots of practice or, better yet, have a setup with the dot mounted low on the gun. In that case, the dot shows up just like the irons did.
The other issue is what is known as "chasing the dot". The dot is there and the shooter keeps moving the dot around trying to get it on the target rather than focusing on the target and taking the shot when the dot is there.
If nothing else, dots are good for training dry fire. Are you really getting the correct sight picture? Does the dot move when you pull the trigger? The dot doesn't lie.
The other issue is what is known as "chasing the dot". The dot is there and the shooter keeps moving the dot around trying to get it on the target rather than focusing on the target and taking the shot when the dot is there.
If nothing else, dots are good for training dry fire. Are you really getting the correct sight picture? Does the dot move when you pull the trigger? The dot doesn't lie.
A lot of the choices depend on non-performance related likes/dislikes. Cost, Pretty rifles, rifles just like the top shooter uses, super lightweight, rifles different from everyone else, etc... I've seen many shooters reach the top ranks using very simple rifle combinations. One made GM shooting a basically stock S&W 15-22 with a cheap mini red dot sight. Another GM shoots a rather plain 10/22 in an Axiom stock with a BX trigger and a C-More railway red dot sight. Save the money on the rifle and spend money on ammo for practice! See if you can take a class from a Pro. Ammo and training will be a better investment than a Gee Whiz rifle. My times with a 6lb PCC are very close to my times with a sub 3lb 15-22. OK, I confess barely sub 3lb (2lb 15oz).
For someone just starting out, I would recommend to keep it simple. Reliability is much more important than ultimate accuracy or Wow factor. A 10/22 with the stock tapered sporter barrel, Alchin or TandemKross red dot mount for either a C-More Slide Ride red dot or a Vortex/Holosun/Fast Fire mini red dot with a 6 or 8 MOA dot. If you like a pistol grip stock, the Axiom 10/22 stock is $75 and works well, but a stock Ruger stock (excuse the pun) will work just fine. Lastly a Ruger BX trigger will help, but is not really necessary. If you really want a better trigger, the Kidd drop in kit is $130 for a 2lb or less trigger. Just a word of warning, buy the spring tuning kit for some heavier springs, because depending on your level of experience, a sub 2lb trigger is pretty easy to have an Oopsie and a match DQ or worse is not a good way to start out.
Nolan
For someone just starting out, I would recommend to keep it simple. Reliability is much more important than ultimate accuracy or Wow factor. A 10/22 with the stock tapered sporter barrel, Alchin or TandemKross red dot mount for either a C-More Slide Ride red dot or a Vortex/Holosun/Fast Fire mini red dot with a 6 or 8 MOA dot. If you like a pistol grip stock, the Axiom 10/22 stock is $75 and works well, but a stock Ruger stock (excuse the pun) will work just fine. Lastly a Ruger BX trigger will help, but is not really necessary. If you really want a better trigger, the Kidd drop in kit is $130 for a 2lb or less trigger. Just a word of warning, buy the spring tuning kit for some heavier springs, because depending on your level of experience, a sub 2lb trigger is pretty easy to have an Oopsie and a match DQ or worse is not a good way to start out.
Nolan
Well, it started out as a Charger, and then one thing lead to another, and it's now my favorite speed steel carbine...
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I have been using a stock 10-22 sporter with a tru-glo optic set on green with the circle dot, and have been doing fairly well, If the young fast shooters stay home I do quite well, we had 17 shooters shooting rifles and pistols and I finished in second place this month by less than a half a second I am a super senior and c class. I finished first last month.
Agree that setup isn't nearly as important as finding something reliable you're comfortable with. I don't shoot formal steel challenge matches, but do compete in other speed oriented games...as well as informal-dueling tree, etc.
Pistols or rifles, I'm faster with reflex dot sights like the Trijicon RMR and Holosun 507 Comp. Everyone I know who's actually put the effort into using them will say the same thing.
Pistols or rifles, I'm faster with reflex dot sights like the Trijicon RMR and Holosun 507 Comp. Everyone I know who's actually put the effort into using them will say the same thing.
Once again, many thanks for all your replies, out of interest, does anyone use a holographic sight like the Eotech?
I'm sure somebody, somewhere, uses an Eotech, but they are big, heavy, expensive and have a small viewing area and a large picture frame around it. The most common sights are the C-More Serendipity, Vortex/Holosun/C-More/Burris mini red dots and are used by all the top shooters for a reason, they work very well and you can buy 2 or 3 of them for the price of the big clunky Eotech. If you were doing tactical rifle classes or using it for a duty rifle, the ruggedized Eotech is an OK choice.
The Serendipity is/was the most common and is very reliable for non-contact competition shooting, but battery life is rather short and it uses an uncommon battery (DL1/3N or 2L76). The V/H/C/B minis use cheaper coin type batteries (2032, 2016) and have a much longer battery life. Some claim a 50,000 hour battery life.
I have Serendipity sights on a lot of my guns, as well as the V/H/C/B minis. For straight up speed shooting like USPSA handgun or Steel Challenge/Rimfire Challenge, I prefer the Serendipity.
Nolan
The Serendipity is/was the most common and is very reliable for non-contact competition shooting, but battery life is rather short and it uses an uncommon battery (DL1/3N or 2L76). The V/H/C/B minis use cheaper coin type batteries (2032, 2016) and have a much longer battery life. Some claim a 50,000 hour battery life.
I have Serendipity sights on a lot of my guns, as well as the V/H/C/B minis. For straight up speed shooting like USPSA handgun or Steel Challenge/Rimfire Challenge, I prefer the Serendipity.
Nolan
Out of interest, I wonder if the Steel Challenge format here in the UK is the same as in the US. this is the course of fire in the UK:
Match 1. Shapes
There are four sets of 10 shaped targets: Squares, Triangles, Circles & Crosses set at 25yrds
Each competitor will have ten rounds with which to knock down as many of their targets as possible.
Each target is worth 10 points (maximum score 100 per run)
Stage 1. Ten shots in 60 seconds
Stage 2. Ten shots in 30 seconds
Stage 3. Individual round (or panic match)
The competitor will start with 2 pre-charged 10 round magazines and a further 20 rounds loose on the table
The competitor will have 180 seconds (3 minutes) to engage all 40 shaped targets in any order (max score 400)
Match 2. Battle Shapes
There are four sets of 10 shaped targets: Solders, Jeeps, Trucks & Tanks placed at different ranges
Each competitor will have ten rounds with which to knock down as many of their targets as possible.
Each target is worth 10 points (maximum score 100 per run)
Stage 1. Ten shots in 60 seconds
Stage 2. Ten shots in 30 seconds
Stage 3. Individual round (or rapid fire round)
The competitor will start with 2 pre-charged 10 round magazines and further loose rounds on the table if required
Stage 3a The competitor will engage the Jeeps shaped targets until all 10 are dropped or 60 sec has elapsed
Stage 3b The competitor will engage the Tank shaped targets until all 10 are dropped or 60 sec has elapsed
A shot timer will be used to record the time taken to complete the course (last shot fired) and scored accordingly
Under 12 seconds 200 points
Under 14 seconds 170 points
Under 17 seconds 150 points
Under 20 seconds 120 points
Under 25 seconds 100 points
Under 30 seconds 80 points
Under 35 seconds 60 points
Under 40 seconds 50 points
Under 45 seconds 40 points
Under 50 seconds 30 points
Under 55 seconds 20 points
Under 60 seconds 10 points over 60 seconds or uncompleted Nil points
Match 3. Precision
There are four banks of 10 Biathlon targets of varying sizes set at 30, 50, 60 & 70 metres distance
Each competitor will have have ten rounds with which to knock down as many of his targets as possible.
Each target is worth 20 points (maximum score 200 per run)
Stage 1. Ten shots in 240 seconds (4 minutes)
once you have finished your 10 rounds please show clear to the RO but remain quiet until all the other competitors have finished. The detail will then rotate so each competitor takes their turn at each bank of targets.
If all four competitors finish within the 4 minutes the RO will call has anyone not finished? He can then prove clear and rotate the group to the next targets.
Penalties
Any shot fired after the allotted stage time has expired will incur a 30 point penalty
Malfunctions
There are no allowable malfunction stoppages during any of the matches, however, if you are able to safely clear your malfunction or stoppage within the match time please do so. Any ejected or misfired rounds maybe replaced and reloaded if the time allows but it is not permissible to insert another preloaded magazine.
Match 1. Shapes
There are four sets of 10 shaped targets: Squares, Triangles, Circles & Crosses set at 25yrds
Each competitor will have ten rounds with which to knock down as many of their targets as possible.
Each target is worth 10 points (maximum score 100 per run)
Stage 1. Ten shots in 60 seconds
Stage 2. Ten shots in 30 seconds
Stage 3. Individual round (or panic match)
The competitor will start with 2 pre-charged 10 round magazines and a further 20 rounds loose on the table
The competitor will have 180 seconds (3 minutes) to engage all 40 shaped targets in any order (max score 400)
Match 2. Battle Shapes
There are four sets of 10 shaped targets: Solders, Jeeps, Trucks & Tanks placed at different ranges
Each competitor will have ten rounds with which to knock down as many of their targets as possible.
Each target is worth 10 points (maximum score 100 per run)
Stage 1. Ten shots in 60 seconds
Stage 2. Ten shots in 30 seconds
Stage 3. Individual round (or rapid fire round)
The competitor will start with 2 pre-charged 10 round magazines and further loose rounds on the table if required
Stage 3a The competitor will engage the Jeeps shaped targets until all 10 are dropped or 60 sec has elapsed
Stage 3b The competitor will engage the Tank shaped targets until all 10 are dropped or 60 sec has elapsed
A shot timer will be used to record the time taken to complete the course (last shot fired) and scored accordingly
Under 12 seconds 200 points
Under 14 seconds 170 points
Under 17 seconds 150 points
Under 20 seconds 120 points
Under 25 seconds 100 points
Under 30 seconds 80 points
Under 35 seconds 60 points
Under 40 seconds 50 points
Under 45 seconds 40 points
Under 50 seconds 30 points
Under 55 seconds 20 points
Under 60 seconds 10 points over 60 seconds or uncompleted Nil points
Match 3. Precision
There are four banks of 10 Biathlon targets of varying sizes set at 30, 50, 60 & 70 metres distance
Each competitor will have have ten rounds with which to knock down as many of his targets as possible.
Each target is worth 20 points (maximum score 200 per run)
Stage 1. Ten shots in 240 seconds (4 minutes)
once you have finished your 10 rounds please show clear to the RO but remain quiet until all the other competitors have finished. The detail will then rotate so each competitor takes their turn at each bank of targets.
If all four competitors finish within the 4 minutes the RO will call has anyone not finished? He can then prove clear and rotate the group to the next targets.
Penalties
Any shot fired after the allotted stage time has expired will incur a 30 point penalty
Malfunctions
There are no allowable malfunction stoppages during any of the matches, however, if you are able to safely clear your malfunction or stoppage within the match time please do so. Any ejected or misfired rounds maybe replaced and reloaded if the time allows but it is not permissible to insert another preloaded magazine.
Definitely not the same.
Here, there are eight stages with five targets per array. Targets are anywhere from 7 to 35 yards with four targets and a stop plate. The idea is to shoot the fastest.
You shoot each stage five times and throw out your worst score.
Here, there are eight stages with five targets per array. Targets are anywhere from 7 to 35 yards with four targets and a stop plate. The idea is to shoot the fastest.
You shoot each stage five times and throw out your worst score.
Thanks for the info, its a shame we in the UK are no longer allowed pistols as the film looks as if the discipline is great fun to shoot, the speeds (and accuracy) are amazing - I couldn't even think that fast! I wish we had the same set up as you do in the USA
AS our maximum distance is 70 yards (or metres) at a fairly small 'Olympic' sized disc I can see why we tend to use a scope rather than a red dot which would probably need very good eyesight - or in my case wearing glasses.
Thanks again for the chat.
We also have a rimfire only competition called Rimfire Challenge that is somewhat similar to Steel Challenge. The main difference is stage designs and number of plates change for every match, with a 7 plate limit, different sized and shapes are allowed. Unlike Steel Challenge the rules limit magazines to 10 rounds loaded and no magazine changes allowed on the clock. Lots of fun. Some matches require shooting a specified number of strings with a pistol and then a specified number of runs with a rifle and like Steel Challenge your single worst run is discarded.
Here's a link to me shooting my 10/22. Caution 3.0 gig file.
https://hosercam.com/video/hoser/richmond rimfire challenge 7-22-18.mp4
My wife calls it the Grapejuice rifle and hers is the Blueberry rifle. I had to cut down the stock quite a bit to fit my 5'4" wife, I'm 6'2".
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Of course I had to build the Orange Juice rifle to go, oh wait....Orange Juice and Grape Juice, ewwww!
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Nolan
Here's a link to me shooting my 10/22. Caution 3.0 gig file.
https://hosercam.com/video/hoser/richmond rimfire challenge 7-22-18.mp4
My wife calls it the Grapejuice rifle and hers is the Blueberry rifle. I had to cut down the stock quite a bit to fit my 5'4" wife, I'm 6'2".
Of course I had to build the Orange Juice rifle to go, oh wait....Orange Juice and Grape Juice, ewwww!
Nolan
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