It is a Romanian M1969 or, for short, M69. Value is based on condition and buyer interest. Search the forum for Romanian M... and you will find a good bit of info.

 

Before the recent ammo/gun shortage an m69 in fair condition with one mag was going for $200 u.s.d..
while they were being imported you could get them for $100 or so still wrapped in cosmoline paper.
The biggest issue was reliable feeding and ejection , mostly ejection and the awful two stage trigger.

Very accurate military trainers.

i had two , traded one for a Remington bolt action single shot and the other i modified the trigger to break a few ounces over return spring pressure and reduced the return spring pressure by half. . It’s a jewel to shoot but since parts are 99% unobtanium and they are prone to firing pin breakage I don’t shoot mine anymore.

 

i had two , traded one for a Remington bolt action single shot and the other i modified the trigger to break a few ounces over return spring pressure and reduced the return spring pressure by half. . It’s a jewel to shoot but since parts are 99% unobtanium and they are prone to firing pin breakage I don’t shoot mine anymore.

Can you tell us how you modified the trigger. I replaced the trigger pin in mine with a piece drill bit to make it tighter-less wobble.
Thanks

 

Firing pin - Romanian Model 1969 .22 Cal Rifle Firing Pin
Apex Gun parts and Numrich also have parts periodically

 

Firing pin - Romanian Model 1969 .22 Cal Rifle Firing Pin
Apex Gun parts and Numrich also have parts periodically

Fixing a broke firing pin isn’t hard. I just don’t want to pay to have it done.

 

Last trip to the range with my Romanian, it cycled 25 rounds (5 magazines) perfectly, for once.

 

I had one once...not bad accuracy, but it wouldn't eject, unless I took the magzine out, then the fired brass would drop nicely through the magazine well. That was years ago, and it cost me the princely sum of $39. Needless to say, it didn't last long; I sold it to a LGS for aboout what I paid for it.

 

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taking out and installing the firing pin isn’t the problem mentioned. Find one available for purchase right now , today. That be the issue. Thanks for the video as I’m sure it will help someone.

 

There is one on eBay for $20

 

One of the biggest problems I have seen with the M69 is the simple fact that people didn't completely strip the entire rifle down and CLEAN all of the cosmoline out. I have seen the dried up crusty cosmoline cause the firing pin to break and also cause other issues. Nothing that a very thorough cleaning won't fix.

 

I have one. Pretty accurate, with the usual intermittent extraction problems. After I run a couple magazines I get used to it. Strange short bolt handle is part of the problem. For that type of rifle I actually prefer the norinco jw15. It take cz 452 mags is equally lightweight if not a bit lighter and for a beater more fun. I think I gave. 75.00 or so for each of them. It is fun to go to the range and outshoot young bucks with their fancy rifles. Those trainers look ridden hard and put up wet but both of mine are sub moa at 50Y if I do my part. Old tasco 3-9 on norinco I think old redfield on m69. Rail is weird on yugo. I rigged 10/22 rail I had laying around to weird spec. top of yugo. It isn't a dovetail so clamped rail and put low rings on, little cumbersome but works fine. Norinco bottom in rack.

 

I put an air gun rail on mine. Off the top of my head, I think the rail is 8MM. Got it at Pyramid air, Paid $225 in nice shape about a year ago off gun broker. Yes additional mags are a hunt. I think someone is making them with a 3d printer.

 

What is the second from bottom on that old gun rack? It has the kind of fore stock shape I like.

 

Winchester 75 target. 1953 or 54 I think.

 

I have one that I replaced the firing pin on and it was no problem swapping out. I also bought an extra mag to have a spare. Mine is a really good shooter and I use it for my hypervelocity rounds. It shoots CCI Velocitors great all the way to 60 yards with the 25 yard rear sight leaf. I also have the factory cleaning/tool kit in the stock. I would price mine at around $225 with the extra mag and not move much off of it.

 

I have read that the aluminum bolt bodies have been known to crack with high velocity ammo.

 

My M69 is pretty accurate out to 50 yards with its preferred ammo. So far mine prefers Federal Champion 510 40Gr RN the best. The little trainer holds its own at 25 yards with some of my more precise 22 rifles.

I can't stress enough to clean, clean, clean these diamonds in the rough. Everything smooths up once ALL of the dried up cosmoline is removed.

 

Well....
Not worth a lot of $$ if that's what you are hoping for...
But, low cost is what makes them such a GREAT value.

As you noticed, these Romanian Trainers are real good shooters

 

Careful polishing and removed one of the two return springs of the trigger like you do to millspec AR triggers.

I did file off the hump on mine that made it like a two stage and turned it into a single stage trigger. It measures in ounces. Long long take up and barely any perceivable wall.
Not really a walking gun anymore at least with the bolt closed.

 

Careful polishing and removed one of the two return springs.

I did file off the hump on mine that made it like a two stage and tuned it into a single stage trigger.

Thanks, I will take another look at mine.

 

I thought about that hump. Mine definitely feels like a two stage. It's got a nice break so I let it be. Might mess with it wouldn't take much. Fun rifles. Mine is a shooter.

 

That wall or hump that made it feel like a 2 stage is what got me started. After I was done it was ounces with a LOT of take up and a barely perceptible wall.
Be very careful if you futz with it.
Remove one of the two return spring wires from one side gives a vast improvement.

 

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Have to say there a nice looking rifle look a lot like the old Mauser 22’s my mauser

 

Today they will get you about $200 maybe $250 for I nice specimen.

 

just sold one of these, for a cheap gun, it shot well above it's price range,, sucky trigger though

 

$200 - $250 easy in the collector world. They were cheap. Not anymore!! $69 to $100 back in the day. The mag is hard to fine. You could get $100 for it. If you keep it Get the firing pin & the ejector/extractor Now, they wear out. Also check the bolt for any rough/mars & smooth them down. Some times the bolt needs replacing, in time, if it was not cleaned & marring accrued.

 

The mag is hard to fine.

We've been making reproductions since 2017 you can find them on eBay or csspecs.com
The magazines are not dirt cheap, but that is the nature of making stuff here rather than China.

 

Was really shocked how well this gun fired. Really accurate.

 

The M69 is a diamond in the rough and shoots quite well once you clean up all of the cosmoline. A detailed strip of the bolt and trigger group is a must since both will be complete packed with cosmoline.

 

Mine was given to me by my Dad. After a thorough cleaning and firing pin replacement it functions and shoots fine. Bought the firing pin on eBay.

 

I haven’t not heard anyone report about any M69’s that were bad shooters.

These are truly a diamond in the ruff.

clean one up, maybe redo the stock finish and put on an old .22 scope with 33mm objective or smaller.

They are the quintessential perfect squirrel riffle.

 

i like mine , i put a decent scope on it and it gets to the range more often that my M1922 , i avctually bought two , gifted one to a friend that needed it a youthg training class ,

ive found thgis one to be a very comfortable rifle to shoot , much like the springfield mod 66 my father had that i learned to shoot on , actually i like it better than the springfield mod 66 i bought to replace the one i never got from dad