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Road maps

2.2K views 149 replies 45 participants last post by  PEASHOOTER67  
#1 ·
In grammar school, I think everyone should be taught how to read and use a road map.
GPS is great, but I see many people getting in trouble using it, especially on back roads off the beaten path.
About once a month around here, I see people getting lost on some back road, appears most were trying to take a short cut or such.

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#9 ·
In grammar school...
Mensch! You're old! I don't think they call it that nowadays. :)
I think everyone should be taught how to read and use a road map.
Agreed. I think everyone should also be taught basic first aid.
GPS is great, but I see many people getting in trouble using it, especially on back roads off the beaten path.
Google maps will always present the quickest route first which is usually, but not always, the shortest route. That's why you see so many folks struggling on back roads or in situations like this:

 
#10 ·
I still carry a Rand mcnally Atlas under the backseat of my truck and a topographical book map of my state for every county in the state. I guess I am old school. 60 years ago when my dad took us on family vacations every summer when his plant shut down in July, I was the navigator. And I darn well better tell him right or I got a verbal thrashing.
 
#11 ·
Sounds great in theory, but current and accurate analog maps are probably more rare than finding folks that can interpret them. There is no profit to be had in printing up-to-date maps. It is much faster, easier, and less expensive to update GPS software.

I grew up driving, diving, patrolling, etc. on paper maps, but I certainly appreciate the advantages of accurate digital imagery.

Those folks that are getting into trouble in the backroads with their GPSs...it is likely map reading is only one link in the chain of mistakes that got them into trouble.
There is some great research published out there about technology and the navigation atrophy in our society. I know I see it every other week when I teach land navigation.
 
#12 ·
I love maps, or charts as they are called in marine use. I used to be able to navigate wether in the middle of Washington D.C. or the middle of the ocean. But the fact is I rely more and more on the GPS now, as I can't see the regular maps well enough to use them easily. They are just too small! I tried enlarging them by photocopying, but places that could do this (Office Depot, Office Max) refuse to do so based on copyright. So, I look them over at home with a large magnifying glass, and make sure the car has plenty of gas.

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#20 ·
New thought -- I'll bet folks who know maps have a feel for directions. For example, if I say "turn west onto Avenue XYZ" they probably got that. The non-map user would say "is that on the left? Or on the right?" to which I would have to follow up with "well, where are you coming from?".
 
#16 ·
It is much faster, easier, and less expensive to update GPS software.
See, that's the thing. If you're using Google Maps (as an example) you are getting not only an up-to-date map but also info on road conditions, detours, etc. She once even told me there was an "object on road" and sure 'nuff there was a six foot step ladder right in the middle of the lane which I was able to dodge because I was watching for it.
But the fact is I rely more and more on the GPS now, as I can't see the regular maps well enough to use them easily. They are just too small!
My beef with GPS devices is that if I zoom in on the screen I lose the context of the big picture.
Kinda like saying people should learn how to use an encyclopedia or an abacus.
I suppose.... but then I still have my slide rule. :) Kids who learn to use an abacus can probably make change in their head instead of waiting for the machine to tell them how much to hand over. And I have a sneaky suspicion that a lot of younger kids get short changed without realizing it. Then again, they're probably paying with plastic anyway so it doesn't matter.
 
#26 ·
Kids who learn to use an abacus can probably make change in their head instead of waiting for the machine to tell them how much to hand over. And I have a sneaky suspicion that a lot of younger kids get short changed without realizing it. Then again, they're probably paying with plastic anyway so it doesn't matter.
That ship has sailed. The next generation would be better served learning a hands-and-brain trade, something that AI and technology can't do. It's going to take a lot of plumbing and HVAC to keep all of this technology running.
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#25 ·
A lot of delivery trucks seem to get lost on the rural roads in our area while relying on Google maps, etc. Or else they are directed to take more direct pigtrail roads instead of roads that the delivery truck can easily travel. Took my grand daughter riding into a backwoods area where my mom grew up in a logging town many years ago and met a very bewildered looking Fedex driver. A few years ago, I tried using GPS to direct me home from a nearby town - just for fun - and it kept trying to direct me off through some back roads to another town south of where I live. There are still some bugs in the GPS map systems, but on good roads, I still use them.
 
#29 ·
I live at the end of the road, literally. My neighbor lives at the end of a different road. Both GPS and the county map show these roads as being connected, which they lack by about 100 yards. I get lots of people at my house who are lost.

I prefer road maps (from Walmart) for planning trips but GPS for navigating within cities.
 
#27 ·
When I got started driving trucks in 1975, Randy McNally was my best friend. I would make notes in the margins, like truck stops or scale locations. I also collected a bunch of city maps. I primarily stayed East of I-35. Rarely did I go to the west coast.
Did not care for the Motor Carrier Atlas (MCA) cause it was laminated and hard to make notes.
Whew, I just checked amazon. It's selling for $98.00 now.
 
#28 ·
I used to live by Hagstrom maps in the 80's. I dont miss them a bit. Driving and looking at a map is not safe. Maps are not up to date anymore. I have a compass in the car, on my phone and my watch. If you dont know where you are, a map is not going too help. Nice to think about the past , but I'll use Waze to get somewhere and I'll buy butter in the store instead of churning it.
Psst. if you are lost and need to call for help, use a telephone pole. They have the town and location on them.

Wow, AAA trip ticks, I remember them.
 
#49 · (Edited)
I used to live by Hagstrom maps in the 80's.
In my part of the world, I used Key Map in Houston and Mapsco in Dallas up to maybe 2010. I'd use the street index to find the page and grid number that showed my destination. Then I'd typically write notes on a legal pad with a list of street names and turns so I wouldn't have to try and see those 1" x 1.25" map grids while on the way.
 
#36 ·
Did not care for the Motor Carrier Atlas (MCA) cause it was laminated and hard to make notes.
Whew, I just checked amazon. It's selling for $98.00 now.
What folks like about them today is the lamination! They hold up better. I bought the "adventure edition" for $28.
I have a compass in the car, on my phone and my watch. If you dont know where you are, a map is not going too help.
A compass isn't any good if you don't know which direction you want to go.... which you can deduce from the map.

If you know how to use a map, the map will let you figure out where you are.
 
#41 ·
Technology is a wonderful tool, until it isn't. GPS is useless in parts of SWVA and southern WV. Pulled up to an intersection in SWVA and glanced the GPS to see which way to turn. It's just looking back at me. Car hadn't moved on the map for several miles. I guessed and when I finally reached another ridge top, it found me and confirmed I was still on the right road.