In regards to the 10/22 inaccuracy... that is pretty much how they are from the factory. That's the reason this forum was started, to do the modifications nessesary to make them shoot half decent.
Now for the 592.... you have an exceptional 592 if it shoots that good. First, tubular mags are not the best situation for accurate shooting of that quality. Second, the stock to barreled receiver attachment of the tubular mag guns is to the barrel and not the receiver... not a good situation for the best accuracy. If you change the torque on that screw, it will most likely change the accuracy... if it doesn't on your rifle, again, you have the exception. You are shooting groups that are hard to attain with a lot of target rifles shooting expensive ammunition.

 

I have a 582....... it shoot's very well ! it won't shoot .500 groups all day long though, maybe untill noon.

Randy

 

I have a 582....... it shoot's very well ! it won't shoot .500 groups all day long though, maybe untill noon.

Randy

 

i dont think its all that exceptional as mine will do the same thing . it is easily just as good as my cz 452 that everone raves about i have shot some acaisional 1/4 groups with mine

 

I have had one for about two years. I mounted a scope, went to the range & sighted it in with Winchester Power Points for squirrel hunting. I havn't shot it since. It shot pretty good as I remember. I bought it because I already had a 580, 2 581's, so it seemed natural to have a 582

 

I have two 582's and one 581. All three are excellent shooters. I bought my first 582 brand new in 1974 and it has put a lot of tree rats on the table back in the day. I just shoot paper these days and its still one of my favorites. Bob

 

I have a 582 when I was 17 gave the national second championship (Sucre ;Bolivia) competed against special rifles (target rifles)

I am glad that finally there are reports this model, float the barrel on a gunsmith friend of my father made this work and leave much more accurate and I honestly do not know how to let the barrel float (bedding) but I remember he mention the subject of the sheath(or tubular magazine or charger) about the ammunition I've noticed that has better performance with no bullets very high speed
But given that in Bolivia there are not many varieties of ammunition I hope to find information on this website
Finally I should mention that is an ideal weapon for hunting on their weight and balance,greetings

 

582 Rem.

Great rifle, have 2, reliable and pleasure to carry.

 

per grandparem

In regards to the 10/22 inaccuracy... that is pretty much how they are from the factory. That's the reason this forum was started, to do the modifications nessesary to make them shoot half decent.
Now for the 592.... you have an exceptional 592 if it shoots that good. First, tubular mags are not the best situation for accurate shooting of that quality. Second, the stock to barreled receiver attachment of the tubular mag guns is to the barrel and not the receiver... not a good situation for the best accuracy. If you change the torque on that screw, it will most likely change the accuracy... if it doesn't on your rifle, again, you have the exception. You are shooting groups that are hard to attain with a lot of target rifles shooting expensive ammunition.

I agree completely about the 10/22. You go into it knowing they will cost lots of money to have passable accuracy.

But I'm not sure about the rest. Although it's common knowledge that a tube mag gun is likely to have less potential than a bedded and floated rifle, I think it's a bit of a broad stroke to say he has an exception. All the 582's I'm familiar with have been what you would call exceptional shooters...pretty much along the lines of any other 540/580 series rifles Big Green cranked out. Yes, the 1/2" all day long may be a little extra enthusiasm, but I think a response needs to be tempered with that understanding , rather than be made negative because of it. Also, it sounds as if you're implying that a body can just throw the action screws in any other rifle any old way and it'll shoot just fine. I'm pretty sure the phenomonon of group size and impact change from torque settings isn't restricted to tube fed rifles. Perhaps I misunderstood that part, but I've read it a few times now, and thats what it looks like you're saying.....that his gun will have issues from torque changes solely because it's a tube mag rifle. The 592 is the magnum version of the OP's rifle by the way. The 590 series was the primary vehicle for Remmy's intro of the 5MM magnum. The 590 guns have enjoyed a small rise in interest since the new 5mag ammo was rumored, but I fear they are destined for doom any way you look at it.

Nickolas, even the tube fed remmies can be tweaked and tuned if you feel the need. I've had good luck with some marlin 60's by making sure the tube is contact free and bedding the action with glass, while adding a pressure pad on either side of the barrel an inch or so back from the end of the forearm. You can also have a rear screw drilled and tapped so the receiver will have a more stable and balanced attachment to wood. I say all that knowing that you probably dont feel the need to go through those steps, and I think you're probably right, just letting you know that there ways to vut group size in the tube feeders.
My first instinct with tube guns was the same as Grandparems, but after messing around with a few, I've found that if you have a good barrel and reliable ignition there is usually a way of making the barrel perform from whatever action is driving it. While I wouldn't expect the very best from one, I certainly wouldnt write off great accuracy as a fluke or exception.

And I have to put my opinion in on one other thing. If a person is having trouble attaining consistant 1/2" groups shooting a target rifle and expensive ammo, then he needs to re-evaluate his definition of a target rifle Something like that would be going down the road right quick like around this house. I have no interest in target rifles, but I've owned several sporters that weren't strained or stretched to make it happen.

 

I agree with Farkill

I've had (1) Remington 582 and (3) Remington 581's in my life. Right now, I just have the one 581. ALL of them, including the 582 have been VERY GOOD shooters, without exception. That said, most of my 581's were a little bit better, overall, in accuracy than my 582. Even so, I would not hesitate one moment, to pick up another 582 that was in excellent condition. I too, have found "very little" difference in accuracy potential of "tube fed" rimfires compared to box magazine versions. There may be "some" difference, but not enough to bother mentioning for any practical "sporter type" use of a rimfire rifle for plinking or hunting or informal target practice.

Interesting point I will make here: The whole reason I even got to looking at the Remington 582's was that many years ago, I was at a local Gunsmith place, here in Colorado, and happened to spot one on the work bench. The Gunsmith said it was his "personal" 582 rifle, and that he had won more than a few local matches with it and that it was indeed, very accurate for a sporter rifle. That, and in John Lachuk's old book, .22 Rimfires, he says some very nice things about the Remington 580 series rifles. Oh, and so did the 1969 Gun Digest article that reviewed the whole 580 series and the accuracy was pretty astounding!

In all honesty, I have NEVER found an actual need for more accuracy than I've been able to "ring out of" any of the Remington 580 series rifles. Those 6 locking lugs, combined with the very fast "lock time" deliver some pretty serious accuracy potential, even with their lackluster triggers.

Just my 2 cents! :bthumb:

 

Sorry! I meant there was a good review of the 580 series rimfires in the 1968 edition of the Shooters Bible. It was written by Pete Kuhlhoff and starts on page 61. The author notes that ALL of his shooting was done from a rest at a measured 60 yard range, NOT just 50.

On page 66, the author writes that at 60 yards, using the Remington 582 rifle, the best 5-shot group he measured was .56 inch, center to center. With other types of ammo, the groups opened up to 1.27 inches. Again, remember this is at 60 yards, not 50. By the way, this was tested using a Weaver 3X9 rimfire scope, not some giant Hubblescope!

The author then wanted to see what would happen if he shot a "mixed ammo" group at the same 60 yard range. He used "2 each" LR cartridges from 5 different brands and flavors of Long Rifle on hand. The result at 60 yards using this Mix and Match group of rounds, still shot a 2.08 inch group, and that was with a "slight wind" gust kicking in a little while he conducted the test.

Not bad.

 

I have owned and hunted grouse with a cheaply scoped remington 581 for 15 years.
These are great rifles that feel great in the hand and are extremely accurate as 99% of the harvested grouse have been head shots.

 

Picked up a 582 from Cabela's Gun Library for $225 last week. Looks to be in very good condition. Got it home and found the trigger and safety were frozen. Salesman said to bring it back if anything was wrong as they only sell "quality" guns. Field stripped it and found it was just never used much, and had been stored a long time. Soaked the trigger group through all the openings and gently worked things until everything moved the way it should. Let it sit for an hour, came back and wiped it down. Continued to work everything until I was sure everything worked fine. Also cleaned everything with CLP (and I do mean everything). I poured 90% rubbing alcohol into the trigger group and worked everything and the blew it out good. wiped everything down with CLP and put the rifle back together. Everything looks and works good, so I put on Redfield rings and a Simmons ProTarget 2x7x32 scope I had removed from another rimfire. It's bore sighted and ready to take to the range to sight in. Oh, and I put sling swivels on it (the full circle mag tube variety on front). It's a nice gun and reminds me of my Dad's .22, which my brother took possession of decades ago. Can't wait to shoot it.

 

 

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I went to an indoor gun range today ($26.50 for a lane, Yikes!) and sighted in. Here is my proof target. I was approached by an older gentleman (I'm 69) with a cane who took off his muffs and asked me what it was. When I told him he was absolutely giddy. He said he has a 581 and that it is a tack driver. He got so excited he knocked his muffs off and had to go get them. Anyhow, here is a pic of the target. Upper right and lower left are 25 yards. Center is 50.

 

You are a wise man. Did everything right from cleaning of trigger assembly to adding front sling swivel. I have had several 582-592's that had the forend split by someone putting the swivel into that thin weak section of wood up front.

 

I think that was a great deal.

 

I have had many 580,581 and 582's over the years. The 582's always shot better than the 581's. I know the hows and whys the 581's should shoot better, but in my experience they don't. I found the same that the 512's shot better than the 511's. No reason I know for it to be that way, but they do. I have no doubt that yours can shoot 1/2" groups with ease.

As for the 10/22, yup that is normal. My favorite gopher gun is a 512. Fill the tube mad and go hunting. You aren't constantly stopping to refill the magazine like you do on a 581. Don't let anyone tell you different. They are highly under rated 22's. Now there is a guy on this forum that will get all worked up because you used the phrase "all day long". ha ha but we know it can!

 

I have had many 580,581 and 582's over the years. The 582's always shot better than the 581's. I know the hows and whys the 581's should shoot better, but in my experience they don't. I found the same that the 512's shot better than the 511's. No reason I know for it to be that way, but they do. I have no doubt that yours can shoot 1/2" groups with ease.

As for the 10/22, yup that is normal. My favorite gopher gun is a 512. Fill the tube mad and go hunting. You aren't constantly stopping to refill the magazine like you do on a 581. Don't let anyone tell you different. They are highly under rated 22's. Now there is a guy on this forum that will get all worked up because you used the phrase "all day long". ha ha but we know it can!

My dad left me his older 10/22 when he passed. It was a tack driver, but I didn't like the mag release so I bought an extended one, and then added a Volquartsen bolt lock. I still didn't like it too much (probably me) I have a Ruger American Rimfire, Marlin 795, and now the Remington 582. They all are great rifles.

 

I've only had 581s and I've always assumed they would shoot better than the 582s.

Well........Over the years I have heard so many people say that their 582 shoots better than a 581 that I must give the 582 some respect.

I know this shouldn't happen, especially if you start with a full tubular mag and empty it..........but the many good reports on the 582 can't be ignored.

One thing we can count on.........the 580, 581 and 582 are some of the most accurate stock production rifles ever made.

I don't shoot at 50 yards, but I can do this all day at 25 with my 581s.

 

I've only had 581s and I've always assumed they would shoot better than the 582s.

Well........Over the years I have heard so many people say that their 582 shoots better than a 581 that I must give the 582 some respect.

I know this shouldn't happen, especially if you start with a full tubular mag and empty it..........but the many good reports on the 582 can't be ignored.

One thing we can count on.........the 580, 581 and 582 are some of the most accurate stock production rifles ever made.

I don't shoot at 50 yards, but I can do this all day at 25 with my 581s.

I agree with you on them being the most accurate production 22's ever made. I also agree with you that it doesn't make any sense that the 582's shoot so well. I have not figured it out either. But I know they do and that is why I own them. I'm open to hearing theories on why they do. I owned a 581 once upon a time. It shot OK, not great. I put a aftermarket barrel on it. Threaded the barrel and receiver. Bought a factory blemish 541 stock off ebay and pillar bedded it. It was the most frustrating gun I ever owned. It wasn't consistent in groups it shot from day to day.

I had a garage sale one weekend and a guy shows up and says do you have any guns for sale? I thought I could sell that 581. I told him what I did and and all the problems I had with it and said if he would give me, whatever price I quoted him, he could have it. He got a deal. He was happy and so was I. I have had some 581's and 511's and never kept them long because they just didn't shoot good. It just doesn't make sense to me either.

 

This is my 582. Walnut stock, no serial number. Shoots as well as most 582s. I have found 82s to be as accurate as 80s and 81s.

 

I have my Dad's 582 from 1967. Looks almost new, i did sling swivels (front tube) and put a 3x9 scope on it. Great carry gun and perfect for squirrels.

 

I have a 582 that I hunt with all the time when I'm tired of lugging around my Winchester 52d bull barrel. I really like mine and the accuracy absolutely amazes me out of these 80 dollar sporter rifles new. Remingtons 580 series was just a really good series of reliable,affordable, accurate rifles. Today a rifle of this caliber will barely hang with these old rifles. Shows that craftsmanship and materials have declined to make a profit instead of a quality rifle. It's very sad and not to mention has hurt a lot of the founder firearms of this countries reputation of quality rimfire rifles that they produce today.