sights

Dr,

The International is a better sight all the way around, pure and simple. It was available with finer adjusting (option) and a spring loaded device to remove backlash in the verticle adjust.

The eyepiece was made by/for Winchester for use on the Redfield. I believe it was called a Master Disc. and consisted of an assortment of aperatures that could be installed in the unit. These were available as an option on the 52-C's. Redfield later went to the sure-X disc that had a rotating disc of different size aperatures.

bjm

 

The Master Disk was also standard for the USMC 40X I am told,along with the International. My CMP USMC came with the original sights. There is an International with MSD on Ebay now, but I have never seen a MSD for sale on the loose. Big Larry :t :t

 

Redfield sights

I agree with Brian that the Redfield International is more desirable than the Olympic. It is spring-loaded to minimize backlash issues although Larry Moore some years ago ran a careful series of "movement/reproducibility" tests on various sights and found no predictable difference between these. Accuracy/repeatability seemed to vary widely from sight to sight, independent of model. The Master disc was sold for years by Redfield, even after the introduction of the Sure-X-disc, and they do turn up not uncommonly on eBay. Seem to sell for $30-50.

I can e-mail a comprehensive historical and descriptive dicussion of the entire family of Redfield target sights if you pm me with your e-mail address. I published an article in 2006 or so in Precision Shooting on just this topic.

George Stephens
geoice@gwu.edu

 

I agree with Brian that the Redfield International is more desirable than the Olympic. It is spring-loaded to minimize backlash issues although Larry Moore some years ago ran a careful series of "movement/reproducibility" tests on various sights and found no predictable difference between these. Accuracy/repeatability seemed to vary widely from sight to sight, independent of model. The Master disc was sold for years by Redfield, even after the introduction of the Sure-X-disc, and they do turn up not uncommonly on eBay. Seem to sell for $30-50.

I can e-mail a comprehensive historical and descriptive dicussion of the entire family of Redfield target sights if you pm me with your e-mail address. I published an article in 2006 or so in Precision Shooting on just this topic.

George Stephens
geoice@gwu.edu

Mr. Stephens,

PM sent, thank you for the offer.

Brian & Larry,
Thank you for your input.

I believe the 6 or 8 40X our Assn. bought from CMP were fitted with Olympic Globe and International Aperture (std. apertures 0.050? and std. barrels) at least that seems to be what shows up Sunday mornings for SB Prone matches.

Thanx again,
D R

 

sights

BL,

According to the Remington records I have available the 40X was only available, beginning in 1955 with Olympics as the only option. From there they went to no sights, bases only and finally no rear base.
This is only factory info. As you well know anything could have happened while in USMC possession including adding International sights with master disc.

bjm

 

I don't remember where I got my info on the sights, but I am sure it was a reliable source. My USMC 40X was in the second batch and was made in 1958. It came with International rear and the Olympic front as did my other 40X US standard bbl. made in 1963. That rifle just had a standard peep. With years of Govt. service and usage by many ROTCS's, the chances of these rifles having their original sights, is probably non existent. The better sight is the International, but it is second to the Palma. The Olympics were also an order item for the M52-C back in the 50's. It was factory known as the G5221R and probably was on the M52-C's the CMP sold a few years back, and were taken off and sold separately. Big Larry

 

I can e-mail a comprehensive historical and descriptive dicussion of the entire family of Redfield target sights if you pm me with your e-mail address. I published an article in 2006 or so in Precision Shooting on just this topic.

George Stephens
geoice@gwu.edu[/QUOTE]

I know this thread is old but if anybody has the info George is talking about I would love to have it. (The email he listed doesnt work)... Redfield sight info is hard to find!!

 

I can e-mail a comprehensive historical and descriptive dicussion of the entire family of Redfield target sights if you pm me with your e-mail address. I published an article in 2006 or so in Precision Shooting on just this topic.

George Stephens
geoice@gwu.edu

I know this thread is old but if anybody has the info George is talking about I would love to have it. (The email he listed doesnt work)... Redfield sight info is hard to find!![/QUOTE]

CWT33,

If you will PM me your e-mail address I can forward the info that George sent me. I believe he may have passed on.

T