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Ream an existing 17 HM2 chamber to a 17 HMR chamber

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7.2K views 12 replies 9 participants last post by  carbineone  
#1 ·
Does anyone know if it is possible to take an existing 17 HM2 chamber and re-ream it to a 17 HMR chamber ?

The reason I ask is because recent news tells us that the 17 HM2 (Mach 2) rimfire round will no longer be produced: http://www.rrdvegas.com/17-mach-ii.html
Any remaining 17HM2 ammunition is now selling for close to $200 a brick (used to sell for $75 to $90 a brick), and I am very sure the price will only increase (300+) in the future as the supply evaporates. The availability & price of 22 LR ammo confirms that assumption.

So with the price and availability of 17HM2 being beyond my reach, I was considering converting my existing 17HM2 guns to shoot 17HMR ammunition, since 17HMR is still available and reasonably priced. These guns would be a CZ 452 (threaded barrel) and a Savage Mk II FV (pinned barrel).

To my knowledge the diameters and twist rates for both 17HM2 and 17HMR are the same. I do not see any issue with chamber pressures, given the materials and construction of either rifle.

Another question I have is can the existing bolt face of the existing 17HM2 rifle properly function with a 17HMR round ? I suspect it can because the Sako Quad rifles and the CZ 455 rifles have the ability to swap barrels (calibers 22LR, 22WMR, 17HMR) while using the same bolt. A 17HM2 case head is the virtually the same as a 22LR case head.

The last question is if this re-chambering machining is possible, then who could safely and competently do this (disassemble, machine/ream, reassemble & headspace) for me ? It would seem to me that there are going to be a lot of 17HM2 rifle owners who will be left with useless rifles now that 17HM2 ammo is discontinued. If there is someone who can salvage (machine/convert) these old 17HM2 rifles to shoot 17HMR ammo, then that company would have a lot of potential customers. The cost to buy one brick of 17HM2 ammo (if you can find any) should more than offset the cost of time & labor to convert a 17HM2 rifle to shoot 17HMR ammo.

Thank you.
 
#2 ·
Does anyone know if it is possible to take an existing 17 HM2 chamber and re-ream it to a 17 HMR chamber ?
Yes. However, most 17 HM2 guns will have a magazine / action that is too short to feed 17 HMR.

That said, what's said below needs some closer reading:

The reason I ask is because recent news tells us that the 17 HM2 (Mach 2) rimfire round will no longer be produced: http://www.rrdvegas.com/17-mach-ii.html
From the linked article:

The Short Version: From what I understand, CCI is going to focus 0.17" caliber production on 17 HMR for the foreseeable future and will not load for the 17 Mach 2 in their product line. This is going to leave Hornady to decide if they will continue to have the 17 Mach 2 included in their product line.

After speaking with some inside contacts on Hornady's management team today, they stated the 2014 to 2015 plans are to maintain a one to two year supply of 17 Mach 2 on hand at any time, but there will be a delay until the ammunition production in all rimfire chamberings catch up to the current orders. Once the delay in production is caught up, Hornady will continue to work with CCI to maintain that inventory volume.

(emphasis added)
What that says if you take time to read it carefully, is that CCI will no longer be *marketing* 17 HM2. They will still be *making* it and it will be sold under the Hornady label.

The bad news is that the insatiable demand for 22LR may delay switching the lines over to 17HM2 production until times get better. Hornady has *suspended*, not dropped, production of many of their slower moving items in order to concentrate on filling the current backlog of fast movers.

Bad as that is, it's NOT the same thing as saying "the 17 HM2 (Mach 2) rimfire round will no longer be produced".
 
#3 ·
Hello Brent,
An interesting proposal. Here are my thoughts, but I am not an engineer, gunsmith or guru on the matter.
Dimensionally, the .17HM2 and .22LR are the same, the .17 just being a necked down Long rifle cartridge(from Wikipedia) For the costs for having a skilled gunsmith make the conversion to .17HMR would almost be prohibitive. It would be far cheaper to simply rebarrel to .22LR
(again, Wikipedia) and just buy a rifle that is already a .17HMR. What with the economy being as it is, you should be able to find a used .17HMR for a reasonable price, certainly a lot cheaper than the machining, fitting, etc. of trying to convert a .17HM2 to .17HMR. Natman put it quite simply that the .17HMR is a longer cartridge. Hope that helps.
Good luck and safe shooting,
Tasker21
 
#4 ·
Actually, the 17HM2 isn't a necked down long rifle cartridge. The 17HM2 cartridge case is same length as the 'Stinger' case which is 0.1" longer than a standard long rifle cartridge. your other info is pretty well on... The extra length MAY be a result of the 'forming' process but it still results in a case that is 0.1" longer than a standard 22LR.
 
#8 ·
Thanks Vincent :bthumb:

Wikipedia is generally a pretty good source of information but, I wouldn't bet my life (or even a couple of bucks :p ) on their information, at least without some other source... They're generally a pretty good starting point ;)