Rimfire Central Firearm Forum banner
  • Whether you're a greenhorn or a seasoned veteran, your collection's next piece is at Bass Pro Shops. Shop Now.

    Advertisement

New to me Winchester 1890 with peep sight

1 reading
2.2K views 21 replies 6 participants last post by  jdcherry17  
#1 ·
I recently picked up a nice Winchester 1890 chambered in 22 Short with a Lyman peep sight and a flip down globe front sight. I believe the sights are original to the rifle as they match the patina on the rifle but need to dig into these a little deeper. Overall I’m very happy adding this rifle to my small collection of model 1890’s as it still maintains a nice original finish and has a clean shiny bore with good rifling. I’ve been looking to add the 22 Short chambering for a while now but most I’ve seen had horrible bores so I was pleasantly surprised by this one, plus the price was lower than most with bad bores. The sights and wood are what caught my attention on this one as the stock has some nice character in the grain not like the deluxe models but better than most. I’m now on the lookout for the 22 Long offering since I now have three of the four which the hunt is half the fun.
Image

Image

Image


Here’s all three together from top to bottom chambered in 22 LR manufactured in 1928, 22 WRF manufactured in 1911 and last my newest addition the 22 Short manufactured in 1907
Image

Image


I just absolutely love these little pump action rifles with the octagon barrels, definitely my favorite even though the Remington model 12’s are a close second.
Image
 
#3 ·
That is a good find on that 3rd Model 1890. The sights alone are about $400 in today's world, and finding one with a good bore is always the challenge on the 1890 rifles.

I bought my 1890 in 22 Short several years ago, for much the same reasons; it has a pristine bore and has a Lyman 2A tang sight and a Lyman Beech #5B folding front sight. Great sights and an excellent bore sealed the deal. Here it is (middle rifle) with two semi-deluxe Winchesters that wear the same sights:

Image

Image

Image


Enjoy your old 1890. My 22 Short is still capable of 50 yard head shots on cottontails with its upgraded sights. I would bet yours will do the same!
All the best---

BRP
 
#5 ·
That is a good find on that 3rd Model 1890. The sights alone are about $400 in today's world, and finding one with a good bore is always the challenge on the 1890 rifles.

I bought my 1890 in 22 Short several years ago, for much the same reasons; it has a pristine bore and has a Lyman 2A tang sight and a Lyman Beech #5B folding front sight. Great sights and an excellent bore sealed the deal. Here it is (middle rifle) with two semi-deluxe Winchesters that wear the same sights:

Image

Image

Image


Enjoy your old 1890. My 22 Short is still capable of 50 yard head shots on cottontails with its upgraded sights. I would bet yours will do the same!
All the best---

BRP
Thank you for the information, you have a couple very nice rifles there. You wouldn’t happen to know what type of sights would have been correct for this time frame? I could be way off but from my research the the rear sight should be the marked Lyman on the bottom of the post where it meets the hinge with no patent dates which this one has and should be marked with a WS stamped on the bottom (I haven’t looked there yet). The front sight does look like it has two patent dates across the top of the sight but it is in need of a good cleaning to see better.
Image
 
#7 ·
That "right amount of wear" includes a frosted bore, which despite its pitted nature, still spins the 22 WRF bullets with sufficient twist to give "minute of rabbit" sized groups, if you don't care very much where on the rabbit the bullet hits! But frosted bore or not, its rarity convinced me to take it home from a gun show more than 30 years ago.

All the best---
BRP
 
#6 ·
I'm not at all well-versed on the subtle changes on the Lyman tang sights over time, but your Lyman #1 tang sight looks spot on perfect for your rifle's age. And whether or not the factory installed it, it is exactly what any serious rifleman would have put on the rifle, then OR now. Like your rifle, the sights on my 1890 in 22 Short appear to have been there from day one. Mine is too late to get a Cody letter, but yours may still be in the range for a Cody museum letter.

All the best---
BRP
 
#14 · (Edited)
Top to bottom:

1) 22 WRF
2) 22 WRF
3) 22 Short
4) 22 WRF
5) 22 Long Rifle

I also have what I believe is a true gallery gun in half nickel. 22 short caliber. Triangular loading gate. I believe it to be authentic mostly do to its wear and tear and it NOT being sold to me as a gallery gun, but more of a “beater”.

I suppose that means I need a 22 Long!
And a smooth pistol gripped variation.
And one with a factory cheek piece (which I’ve located).
And a case color hardened frame variation (especially the first model).
And a factory engraved while I’m at it.

The last couple won’t likely ever happen, but a guy can dream!
 
#15 ·
The pursuit of dreams is what it's all about!
Which is why Christmas Eve was always better than Christmas morning when we were little kids. In the dream, anything is possible. That's what keeps me going to gun shows and poking my head into pawn shops filled with mostly junk, and stopping the truck at garage sales to see if they might have a gun or two--- because you never know where lightning might strike.

Dream on! Today just might be the day.
:D
BRP
 
#19 ·
You mention special order guns. I have a Winchester 1890, 22 short only. It’s been in my family since 1950. My dad gave $4 of gasoline for it. It is one of only 2 built with an 18 inch octagon barrel by special order. Winchester records says one of them had the rear sight dovetailed 3 1/4 inches from the receiver. That’s the one I have. The collection value is gone, as we hot blued it in 1962 and replaced some springs and screws! It looks good still. We didn’t know it was one of two. I don’t know how to post pictures on here or I would show it. It has a lot of sentimental value to me as both my older brothers and my dad all hunted with it. Sorry for butting in, just thought I would share. Thanks