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New 617 Mountain Gun no lock

2.2K views 40 replies 24 participants last post by  Yureikuma  
#1 ·
S&W just announced it, looks great….
 
#9 · (Edited)
Curious. After all the pissing and moaning about the S&W lock, when the company astonishingly makes one without the dreaded lock (given all the lawsuits against gunmakers), instead of jubilation or even just a little gratitude, the comments are about examples that didn't extract properly or about a Ruger-like smooth cylinder looking better. I do agree all those flutes don't look as "Smith and Wesson" as six flutes, but they are obviously trying to listen to input from customers and accommodate their preferences -- the ten-shot cylinder being just another example. Reminds me of all the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth from the 5mm crowd about how the .17 HMR or .17 WSM should have been .20, but the .21 Sharp draws collective yawns. There's no way I would ever want to be in the business of trying to satisfy gun people.
 
#10 ·
Yeah, well $850 plus fees for a revolver that doesn’t eject the empties unless you send it to a gunsmith or back to the factory to have it fixed (if they will fix it), or do some home grown gunsmithing to make it work like it should’ve from the factory I guess is “pissing and moaning”. Must be nice that you’ve never had an item that you bought that didn’t work like it should.🤔
 
#20 ·
I just came back from shooting my 617.
I was testing for best grouping ammo.

I shot 6 different loads, five standard velocity and one high velocity.
Only the high velocity was difficult to eject. It was Aguila.
One of the SV loads was Aguila Target. It didn't stick.
I'll try some other HV someday but SV doesn't seem to be a problem, at least in my copy.
 
#31 · (Edited)
Nice looking revolver but my idea of a Mountain Gun has always been a big cat or bear protection high powered caliber not a .22. But then again there are these critters to be wary of. View attachment 607608
Rooooaaaarrrr!

There'd probably not be much left to hunt, if these tree tigers existed.

This Mod. 617 "Mountain Gun" is a fine looking wheelgun, and I welcome it that S&W skipped the ugly internal lock ("Hilary Hole") here.

But weighing 36 oz, it seems a bit heavy for this purpose, especially for a .22lr. The big bore "Mountain Guns" just weigh some ounces more, but pack much more power.

For wandering around mountains where a .22 handgun at hand is enough, I'd prefer a Mod. 63 4", weighing only 25 oz.
 
#28 ·
I was referring specifically to all those who complained so vocally about the S&W safety lock, not really calling out the two that mentioned sticky extraction and flute-less cylinders; it was more a lack of any commentary whatsoever about a new Smith and Wesson revolver with no safety lock. Seemed pretty comment worthy to me, given the years of "pissing and moaning" about it.
 
#29 ·
I removed the internal lock that engages the hammer on my 617-10 just to eliminate the chance that it could engage itself. They are an eyesore on an otherwise beautiful revolver. Surprised some enterprising company hasn’t marketed a cylinder release that is just a tad oversized enough to hide it. There was a guy who made ss and blued parts to replace the thing so as to hide it. I replaced the crossbolt safeties on both of my cowboy action Marlin 1894s. One replacement is a fake screw and the other is a saddle ring.
 
#35 ·
When I shot my Freedom Arms 252 for the first time the other day (it is notorious for its almost too tight match chambers), I was surprised when the SK Magazine chambered with some resistance but extracted with zero friction, while the R-50 slipped right in each chamber but was pretty darn tight to eject, and that ejector pushes the cases out one at a time, not 6 or 10 at once. I agree with Gerald on this. My 63 and 317 scratch my S&W .22 itch. Still, IF I were going to buy a K-frame Smith .22, I would take a serious look at this unique "Mountain Gun." I'm afraid a vintage K-22 Outdoorsman would trump it at that price, though.