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My new Anschutz 2013, any information please

7.3K views 21 replies 10 participants last post by  crankythunder  
#1 ·
Hello everyone. Going to pick this one up tomorrow. Getting tired of the 17 pound Winchester 52C Bull with the Wayne Schwartz stock. One of my teammates won a 2013 many years ago at a match and I have been bugging him to sell it to me ever since. Got tired of waiting and this one became available about a hour away.

Not my first Anschutz, already have a Savage Anschutz model 64 with a wood 3 position stock but have lusted after the 2013 for a long time.

What can you tell me about this rifle?

This is the sellers picture, Sights, Handstop, and Palm Rest included in sale along with "tools" which I assume is a allen wrench for the bolts.

Regards,
Crankster


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#2 · (Edited)
Yep, that's a 2013, properly a 2313 in the old sintered stock. That would have been cutting edge twenty years ago; that's not to **** with faint praise. Ergonomics have come on a fair bit this century, and newer have more adjustment, but the 2313 is no slouch.

I'll presume the rifle is all original, but that is an assumption. The barrel/action could have been made at any time since 1992 (earlier 2013 receivers were blued), the stock from 1998/99 to 2007/8, and the rearsight and handstop from the mid-90s. The trigger blade and colour of the laminate suggest early 2000s though.

The short 50cm barrel isn't so common over here. Opinions seem to vary on its merits compared to the normal 27in heavy barrel. Practically, the balance will be further back, which may be useful for 3P.

Beyond that you have a good 3-P rifle, one that's pretty much ready to go. If you have a long-ish neck, and especially a lower prone position, get a set of raiser blocks. The fore-end is shallow, and the bore sits very low in the hand. This can leave your craning and cramping your neck to aim. I like Centra Block Club raisers. A mote average-height person,or someone with a very high prone position, may like the low sightline, at least in prone.

Edit: if you aren't used to extension tubes, these are crud magnets, particularly at the crown. If the seller hadn't cleaned for a while break out a shotgun rod and brush. A wad of tissue will do for day to day cleaning.
 
#3 ·
Lovely rifle, and almost certainly will shoot well for you. Not sure what info you want on the rifle beyond the specs info that is readily available on the Anschutz and Anschutz dealer web sites.

What are your plans for it? What discipline(s) do you plan to use it in? It is currently stocked for 3 position competition. If you are thinking any of the bench disciplines you will have some work ahead of you to restock, or adapt for shooting from a rest.
 
#4 ·
Thank you Tim and PJ:

I am on a 4 position team and we shoot many disciplines whereas we have optics matches, Iron Sight Matches, Antiques, Military, and also F class.

I used to shoot a lot of bench rest but cannot say that benchrest was my cup of tea. Struggled to stay awake through a complete green meanie target.

Will be shooting this in 4 position matches with both irons and modern scopes. Thinking of sliding my Leupold 6.5x20x40 over onto it but saw some of those Arken scopes and might go with a Arken. Already got a email back from Arken stating that the EPL4 series will focus down to 10 yards. Not sure how the tacticool scope will look on the 2013 or 2313 vs the old reliable Leupold.

Regards,
Crankster
 
#5 ·
When it comes to Anschutz's model name for the square action 20xx series, I confess to some confusion regarding the nomenclature.

An Anschutz 1995/1996 brochure has the following, with the short barrel (50cm or 500mm) identified variously as 2007, 2007/660, 2007D.



To make matters less clear, Anschutz has this image in the same brochure. The shorter barreled model is identified as a 2013* Super Match "Special"

The asterisk (*) beside 2013 denotes the following: "A reduction in length of rifling of the barrel for shorter lock time!"



The rifle shown in the picture above has, as tim notes, a short 500mm barrel. The square action was also made with the standard 54 match Anschutz barrels, in 660 and 690mm. The 500mm barrels may be the less commonly seen.

At least some of the 500mm barrels had 2007/2013 stamped on them, as shown on the one below.



Below, the same stamp is on what appears to me to be a 660mm barrel. (The stock is an Anschutz BR 50 stock.)



When Anschutz made the BR 50 stock available, the 500mm barreled action BR rifle was the 2013/500A BR 50.

 
#7 ·
When it comes to Anschutz's model name for the square action 20xx series, I confess to some confusion regarding the nomenclature.

An Anschutz 1995/1996 brochure has the following, with the short barrel (50cm or 500mm) identified variously as 2007, 2007/660, 2007D.

To make matters less clear, Anschutz has this image in the same brochure. The shorter barreled model is identified as a 2013* Super Match "Special"

The asterisk (*) beside 2013 denotes the following: "A reduction in length of rifling of the barrel for shorter lock time!"
Glenn,

As I understand it, the 50cm barrel was standard for both the 2013 and 2007 at first. It was only after a few years that the 66cm and 69cm barrels became options.

Back in 1990 Anschutz had enjoyed nearly two decades of almost total dominance; yes Bassham and Cooper won their Olympic medals with Walther, and the Soviets did well with their Ural 5/6 and Mts 112/113 rifles in the '80s, but Anschutz were no 1. Much as with the 1600, Anschutz seem to have wanted to top this. I'd intuit that they felt the 5018 trigger and 18xx/19xx bolt didn't need any development, so they looked at the receiver - wider longer more bedding bolts. I've heard various rumours about the reason for the short barrel, but stiffness and barrel time seem the most likely. Bloop tubes were a recent invention, so the shorter barrel no longer affected aiming precision.

Only the 2013 and 2007 were offered. At this time the 50m Standard Rifle was still a thing, and would be until 1997. I suspect sales of the 1911 prone rifle were slowing enough that Anschutz didn't think a 2011 would be viable. Although they seem to have made a couple, and the BR-50 was effectively a 2011 with a wider flat fore-end.

With the UIT (ISSF pre-'98) dropping the Standard rifle after 1996, there was less call for the 2007. The cheaper 1907 seems to have kept its place as an intro/club model. Ladies could use the 2013, or the 2012 a scaled down version. So, the action is often called the 2013 rather than 20xx or 2000. 2000 would also create potential confusion with the flobert-action sub-junior rifles.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Silhouette . . . where you have to stand on your own hind legs and shoot like a man . . . only to be beat by a lady!
There's plenty if opportunity to be beaten by ladies in position shooting too.

My first shoulder-shoulder match was a friendly against a local prep school. As a team we won, but I was beaten by an 11yo girl. In my defence she had been shooting for longer than I had at that point.
 
#20 ·
Hello everyone. Going to pick this one up tomorrow. Getting tired of the 17 pound Winchester 52C Bull with the Wayne Schwartz stock. One of my teammates won a 2013 many years ago at a match and I have been bugging him to sell it to me ever since. Got tired of waiting and this one became available about a hour away.

Not my first Anschutz, already have a Savage Anschutz model 64 with a wood 3 position stock but have lusted after the 2013 for a long time.

What can you tell me about this rifle?

This is the sellers picture, Sights, Handstop, and Palm Rest included in sale along with "tools" which I assume is a allen wrench for the bolts.

Regards,
Crankster View attachment 344971

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Crankster,

Have you started setting up your stock yet? I recently bought a 1998 Walther KK200, which appears very similar to you 2013. I've had it a few months and am still tweaking things. I will say that the more I adjust mine, the more the setting seem to return close to neutral. Setting the cheek rest to ensure a comfortable position for sight alignment and sight picture is the most critical in my opinion, then the grip position to ensure proper trigger/finger position.

As many adjustments as there are on these earlier rifles, I cannot imaging the aggravation of setting up the new rifles with even more adjustment.

Good Luck and keep us posted. I'd be interested in hearing your experience.

Art
 
#21 ·
I... am still tweaking things. I will say that the more I adjust mine, the more the setting seem to return close to neutral. Setting the cheek rest to ensure a comfortable position for sight alignment and sight picture is the most critical in my opinion, then the grip position to ensure proper trigger/finger position.

As many adjustments as there are on these earlier rifles, I cannot imaging the aggravation of setting up the new rifles with even more adjustment.

Art
Art,

I think it really depends on your position. If that's a more traditional moderate body angle and level shoulder job, then neutral settings may be right. But if you are straighter or wider, or more rolled (so the right shoulder is high), the rifle will reflect this (offset or higher butt).
 
#22 ·
Hey Art:

I set it up as soon as I got it. Since I have been position shooting for quite a while, it took me about twenty minutes.

First I started with the grip and trigger to fit my hand.

Then I continued on with the butt plate, started it close to the grip and legthened as needed while adjusting the vertical. Completed the individual nubbies and shoulder hook for comfort.

Finished with the cheek riser.

Then I put temporary witness marks in case I want to tweak it but have not so far.

No problem.

Lots easier then with a wood stock.