Tried it without the haloring ? Lower velocity+ extra mass.....

 

slaps forehead

I'll do that, for sure. Should have thought of that.

 

The copper Aguila 22's seem to do alot better in the Ruger. 38 and 40 grain Super extras.

 

While not in a ruger, my experience has been the aguila standard velocity ( plain lead bullet you pictured- which has a rated velocity faster than most other standard velocity ammo) is one of the best inexpensive ammo types out there. I find it close to on par with CCI for accuracy and reliability. I would try without the halo ring for sure. Sometimes though, there are just some guns that don’t care for a particular type of ammo, and isolating a reason isn’t always a fruitful endeavor. Use CCI and burn the aguila up in. Different gun.

 

While not in a ruger, my experience has been the aguila standard velocity ( plain lead bullet you pictured- which has a rated velocity faster than most other standard velocity ammo) is one of the best inexpensive ammo types out there.

Not to call you out, as we all know every gun is different; I'm just offering a different opinion.
For me, in my guns, Aguila is one of the least accurate cheap ammo types out there, and in semi guns it's a bit unreliable. I can hear the difference between rounds sometimes.

I DO buy it because it's cheap, but it's the ammo I let kids blow off when we aren't worried about making groups.

 

Aguila Super Extra is now my primary ammunition for the Mk2.
However i am running the copper plated projectile @1280 fps, not strait lead @1130 fps

 

This is funny because I just had/have the same problem in my Ruger Mark 4. The best I could tell it was my magazines. Youre gonna want to take them apart and clean them real good. I think it might be the lube on the lead making things the smallest bit tacky inside the magazine and my rounds would get stuck (the followerer wouldn’t move freely, cuz the rounds wouldnt move) and caused me all kinds of cycling issues. So far so good after a good cleaning, but time and cleanliness will tell.

 

Thanks, that's pretty interesting, about the mags. Since you mentioned it, I just relooked at my training journal and realized I had recorded this comment:

I noticed the Aguila rounds have a tendency to “stick” at the top of the mag tube, unlike the CCI which drop in all the way to where the follower is. Hmm.

...which is pretty close to what you are saying. Well. I'll definitely take my mags apart and have a look at the innards, and get them cleaned up.

Thanks.

 

Aguila ranks very low on my ammunition choices. With great availability of Eley, Wolf, Federal, and CCI you can find a low cost performer that will run flawlessly in your Ruger.

 

Hi folks. Just joined because of this thread. Terrible problem with Aguila HV CPSP. Will not function in my sw 41 nor ruger MkII. I’d suggest mic the bullet diameter, not the case. SAAMI spec is .2255 tolerance -.004.

 

Did you measure your ammo? If so, what did you find?

I just measured 10 rounds each of my Aguila and CCI. While the average CCI bullet diameter was slightly under the Aguila, both were within SAAMI specification.

 

I shoot Aguila 40gr. Super Extra, 1255fps, copper plated, out of my CZ 457. Aguila groups better than the other ammo I have tried, but it is real dirty. I have to run a bronze brush though the barrel after about 85rds. or I will have fail to eject issues.

 

I completed Range Visit 7 today. The gun has a total of 601 rounds through to date.

Prior to today's visit, I took each of my mags (5) apart and cleaned them out with Dawn detergent, buffed them with a patch wet with alcohol, and dried thoroughly. Then I reassembled them dry. For this test, I used mags 1 and 2, which have all Ruger OEM parts except for the buttons, which I used VQ. I picked a random sample of a couple different boxes out of my order of 1,000 Aguila and loaded them with 10 rounds, each.

I also received the VQ "upgraded" bolt assy, and one of the VQ RSA kits. I assembled an RSA with the VQ Dark (lighter) spring, to have as an option. I then shot the following test, each with a different scenario/cause in mind. Results follow each test. All results were with the Aguila ammo.

#1) Equipment: OEM bolt (no Halo ring), and OEM RSA (this was to determine whether the Halo had any effect: Result: #2 round failed to fire.
#2) Equipment: VQ Bolt (with Halo), but retaining the OEM RSA (this was to determine whether the VQ FP and Extractor had any effect): Result: #1 round failed to chamber. It stuck half way up, at about a 45 degree angle.
#3) Equipment: OEM bolt (no Halo), but this time I used the VQ Light (Dark) Spring. (this was to determine whether the lighter RSA in the stock bolt had any effect): Result: #1 chambered, but did not fire.
#4) Equipment: Lastly I used the VQ Bolt (Halo) with the VQ Light (Dark) spring (this was to determine whether a lighter RSA, and the VQ upgrade, had any effect): Resuit: After one round, #2 round failed to eject.

So, bottom line, that was four full magazines of 40 rounds, and I managed to get 2 rounds off. I unloaded all the Aguila, and started shooting CCI. I proceeded to shoot 79 rounds of CCI Minimags with no stoppages or misfires or misfeeds whatsoever. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

I can't think of anything else at this time, and I don't have any other equipment combinations. This Aguila (specifically, this cartridge / lot) simply doesn't run, at all, in my specific 22/45. So I'll put the Aguila into storage, perhaps if I ever get a .22LR revolver, or other .22 firearm, and just move on with the CCI. I appreciate all the input in the thread, thanks a bunch, but I think I'm done at this point.

 

Sorry to rain on your parade, but I have a 22 revolver and this ammo does not work in a revolver either. For some reason after I wanted two shots, the trigger locks and the cylinder no longer rotates. I threw it in the back of my closet as I had no problem with CCI or federal ammo in my LCR revolver. Do yourself a favor Cut your losses.

 

I’ve had mixed results with Aguilla HV 40 gr (red and yellow box). It works fine in my suppressed Buckmark but not in my CPC-rechambered 10/22 or my 1974-vintage Standard Model. The SV rounds work great in all three. All my bolt guns handle both HV and SV equally well. Accuracy is fine all around.

 

So far the red and yellow box Aguila SE is being the most accurate of all my .22 ammo in almost everything I’m running it through. I’m about to open a new box next range trip so I’ll see if that holds true.

 

You are shooting standard velocity Aguila. You need the HV copper washed 40 grain which is the same velocity as Minimag 40.

 

I have had lots of trouble with misfires using A Hi velocity lately in my Ruger Mark 4. Blazer runs fine. A won't fire about 40% of the time. Maybe doesn't like the cold here lately but it isn't firing.

 

Aguila HV shoots great in my CZ 455!
The only trouble I've had is after about 100 rounds, the chamber gets so gunked up with that thick wax that the empties get stuck in the chamber, and sometimes won't extract. I keep a short rod in my bag now, just to clean the chamber if I'm shooting allot.

 

This is what I would do, don’t shoot that ammo , install all the factory parts back in pistol.
Call Ruger up and let them fix it.
This is something I would have to see in my
hands and not try to fix over E- net.
I have had a Ruger mark 2 since 1995 and I can’t remember the last time I had any jams or
problems with it and have shot all kinds of
ammo in it.
Mine has a Volq kit hammer kit & extractor
Clark trigger, trigger pull under 2 lbs.
First thing I do with any new rifle or pistol
especially semi autos take action apart and
de-burr any machined parts, make sure there
is no carbon ring in chamber(bore scope)
Good luck.

 

Aguila SE has some lots that are 1050-1075 fps out of a 16" barrel and some lots that are 1110-1150 FPS out of a 16" barrel, boxes that I have tested have been from the past few years. Also I have had terrible results in feeding aguila in single stack pistol magazines like ruger or browning. The lube is sticky and not allowing the rounds to push up fast enough into the chamber. Try to simply wipe the lube off the bullet nose and see if that helps. You may have sticky sub-sonic aguila SE. My thoughts.

 

It's funny, that description fits exactly with my perception of the Aguila SE, including the "sticky" part. The Aguila Standard Velocity I bought today says the same fps (1,130), but man, it feels a lot, lot lighter than the Mini mags, listed at 1,235. It will be interesting to compare the feel of the Aguila SV with the SE.

Thats a good idea to wipe the rounds of the SE before loading a mag, I may not want to do that on a regular basis but will do out of curiousity. Plus I have like 950 rounds of the SE at the moment lol.

 

So I was in my local Sportsman's Warehouse today here in Lady Lake FL. I found some other options to try they had on the shelf. So I bought 1 box of: Aguila Standard Velocity (1,130 fps, same as the Super Extra), two boxes of Armscor (one 40 gr lead nose, one 36 gr copper plated; no velocity listed for either) and a box of 40 gr Fiocchi, which says 1,050 fps. I will report back from my next range visit (going to be a while, I just had eye surgery for cataracts on my right eye, and Monday is the second one on my left).

 

The CCi runs perfectly; the Aguila is basically unusable.

I would still say I prefer Aguila to all other ammo made in the western hemisphere except CCI.

There ya go
A Working Class Assessment:
I do not purchase bulk ammo.
I have a modest assortment of 8 rimfire rifles and 6 rimfire handguns. And about 25K of LR ammo. The lions share of the ammo is either CCI or Aguila, Hyper velocity, High Velocity, Standard Velocity, and Sub Sonic. Everything, all of the ammo works fine in my manually cycled bolt guns and revolvers, (no surprise), semi auto's is where the fine line with respect to reliability and accuracy show's up.
SV and SS is not for my P22 or TP 22, CCI has a slight advantage, if 90% reliability works for anybody, Aguila is more like 75%. Fail to feed and fail to eject/cycle are the main problems, with an occasional fail to fire with the Aguila. My MK I, (I need a 22/45), is totally reliable with CCI SV and SS, about 98% reliable with Aguila SV and SS, mostly fail to feed.
My 3 semi auto rifles, all 10/22's, 1 OEM stainless synthetic with minor trigger work, eats it all, 1 Tactical Innovations, (TI), assembly with a Shaw barrel is nearly as reliable, but will hang up feeding SV and SS at about 95% reliable, my TI build with a GM Bentz chamber is less reliable, maybe 90% with SV/SS. CCI is more reliable across the selection, HS/SV/SS.
If you have semi auto's, go with CCI.

Accuracy wise, CCI is a bit better than Aguila in most of my rimfires. With scoped rifles, and handguns fired from a bag rest, the way to test ammo, not shooter, the differences are in tenths of an inch for 5-10 shot groups at 50 yds. Aguila is more prone to flyers that can be reduced a lot by rim sorting. In my Savage BV and 77/22 VBZ/Shilen Varmint tube, CCI SV/SS and Aguila SV/SS sorted by rim size are nearly as accurate as Eley Club and Target, Wolf Target, and SK(s). But I need multiple groups on different days to really see much difference, the target products typically have the edge, but no always.

Then there's all the other options. Some are just as accurate and/or reliable as CCI or Aguila. These days there is way more diversity when it comes to bullet weight, velocity, bullet type. I buy a couple hundred rounds of something new from Target Sports when I pace a monthly order. To know if it's good, great, horrible, etc. in your collection, you need to test it yourself. A single test in a single firearm is meaningless.

 

Range visit 8. This was my first range visit after cataract surgery. I shot 2 mags each of the new four Ammo options I bought:

- Aguila Standard Velocity 22LR 40gr LRN 1,130 fps: Round #1 ok, then #2 failed to chamber, putting a crease in the round. Ended up with 9 fails in 20 rounds, not any better than the Aguila Super Extra. Here is what one of the Aguila SE rounds looked like after I cleared the chamber after a fail to chamber malfunction. The round is just stuck there, about 45 degrees.

Here is the cartridge after I cleared the malfunction:

I then switched to the rest of the ammo:

- Armscor Standard Velocity 22LR LRN 40 gr Mag 2: After 6 rounds, got a FTE. Resulted in getting only 16 out of 20 rounds to fire, so not much better than the Aguila.

- Armscor High Velocity 22LR CP HP 36 gr Mag 3: 100%. 20 out of 20 rounds, felt like it “popped” like the CCI. This ammo worked fine.

- Fiocchi Range Dynamics 40 gr LRN 1,050 fps Mag 4: 20 out of 20 rounds, very good, no problems.

I liked this ammo. It’s funny, I almost thought I could make out the bullet flying down range. I’ve never seen that before, ever. Also, this ammo appears to group slightly smaller than the CCI Minimags, even, as I shot a Personal Best of 99-4X on Ken Hackathorn's "The Test" (10 rounds at 10 yards in 10 seconds, scored on an NRA B-8 repair center.) I'm not a great shooter, but this good for me with irons. I'd buy this again.

- I did a repeat for control purposes of the Aguila Super Extra 40 gr LRN 1,130 fps (cleaned): resulted in 3 FTE out of two mags. So, neither Aguila did very well, except for malfunction clearance practice, at which it excels.

All in all, a very useful session. I verified the gun shoots lower velocity rounds (at least the Fiocchi) but continues to choke on Aguila, so I'll use it for tap rack bang drills. I may buy some more Fiocchi and try it along with the CCI in a comparison of group sizes. I also have a third option, with the Armscor HV, but given I can order Minimags from Target Sports, and buy local the Fiocchi, I have a couple good ammo options for the gun, and I appreciate all the good suggestions in the thread.

 

Never had any issues. I'm shooting the plain lead, SE version of Aguila from 2019 and early 2020. I run it in....various 10/22s, several S&W revolvers, Ruger MK 2s, Marlin 39s, Ruger 77s, Nylon 66s, Buckmarks M&P 15s, CMMG AR15 conversions, Glock 44s.....Never any kind of problem--- reliable and more accurate than most.

 

I run CCI Mini-Mags through my Ruger Mark IV Lites and have not had a failure in probably 10K rounds. I tried Aguila and in the first box I had three failures to fire and two cases that separated on me.

I had just bought 1500 rounds of Aguila on the recommendation of a couple of shooters. CCI was having troubles delivering ammo at the time. I went to the range and sold all the remaining ammo to the other shooters. I have no confidence in it.

As per our problem. One thousand feet per second will make a huge difference in reliability. You may need to replace your rebound spring for the Aguila ammo. Normally it takes about 500 rounds of Mini-Mags to break in a gun. After that it should work. You went over that and still have a problem so, I would get rid of the Aguila, stay with Mini-Mags or save some money and buy CCI Blazer. It's the same ammo but without the copper wash.

 

Aguila works great in my CZ 455. Way better groups than CCI. The only trouble I have with it is the thick waxy lube builds up in the chamber, and them extraction becomes a problem. I just clean the chamber allot, lol.

 

A friend gave me a couple boxes of the Super Extra Standard Velocity. I shot one box and it shot great, saved the second box till I could find some more. I could only find the Super Extra, so I bought a couple boxes and it shot like crap. The box of SESV had eley primed on the box, the new boxes didn't.