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Insert Bolt How?

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1.1K views 23 replies 8 participants last post by  Dan S  
#1 ·
Okay, my new 1720's here, and I can't get the bolt in - which causes my wife entirely too much humor, I think...

I have the manual - I just can't get it to move past about the point where the little "feet" (90 degrees from the bolt handle) enter the receiver channel. At this point the bolt handle is just above horizontal. I can't tell where it's hanging up, and I really don't want to use my normal approach - bigger hammer - on this thing, regardless of the manual saying to push it "smartly forward."

What am I missing - wiggles, twists, etc., that "everyone knows"...

Jaywalker
 
#4 ·
You should be able to grasp the front of the bolt with one hand and the handle with the other to cock or decock it. yours may not have the indicator in red, i never paid attention to mine.

I went and looked at one of my 1712s and all that is there is the little pin in the center, yours has the wing saftey? correct.

There should be a pin sticking out of the center in the cocked position.
 
#5 ·
shtrdave,

Yes, this is a 54 action with the wing safety. And the pushing the lug down with the edge of the table (the Win M70 method) did not.

Your method worked and I now have a cocked bolt which is inserted in the receiver. Thank you.

Now to edit one embarassing admission, though not the meat of the matter, which could be of help to the next schmuck who gets an uncocked bolt from Anschuts...

Jaywalker
 
#6 · (Edited)
Sorry, shtrdave explained it better, I was on the way out to shoot. :)

Yes, you should be able to cock and uncock the bolt at will just by twisting the firing end while holding the bolt handle end. :)

I think all Annie bolts are shipped uncocked to prevent spring wear, or the spring taking a set.....

When I pull mine out for storing the guns in my case, I always twist the bolt to uncock them and prevent excessive spring wear. :)
 
#8 ·
jlp4951:
New rifles are shipped with a orange paper tag on the bolt that says to cock the bolt before inserting. But we know real men don't read that kind of stuff.
Hmm. Interesting - I'll check this evening. I did glance at both of the orange tags to see if I could find any English, but you're right, I was looking to the manual for instructions, not hanging tags. Still, they would have had to tell me how to cock the bolt in order for it to be effective.

Jaywalker
 
#14 ·
There were two tags. The first one, the red one around the barrel, encouraged me not to point the rifle at people, one side in English and the other side in German. I gave that one all the attention it deserved. The second, the red-and-white one around the bolt, encouraged me to clean the rifle after every use. I presumed, erroneously, the other side encouraged in German the same cleaning process. I was wrong - the other side of the red and white tag declared that I needed to cock the bolt before inserting it. I missed that. The info would have only cut 10 minutes off my search for a solution, however, as I have yet to find a description of how to do that.

jlp4951, I'm trying not to read into a few sentences what might not be there, but I'm sensing a bit of hostility. Is there a problem here?

Jaywalker
 
#16 ·
OldSwede said:
When I compare the manual I got with my $1000.00 USD Anschutz to the one you get with a $50.00 USD Daisy BB gun, it is my humble opinion that Anschutz should be ashamed of themselves. I've heard all of the "excuses"; none wash. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Absolutely. At this point, the only good thing about my Anschutz purchase is that the rifle performs as desired. Delivery time from ordering was five months, instruction manual was unenlightning. Of course, that was better than the non-existant manue for the 6834 sight set (I had to figure out the cw/ccw left/right up/down for myself, also that elevation was in 1/4 MOA but windage in 1/2 MOA clicks). Spare parts? Try 5-6 MONTHS if you break anything. And I paid a premium price for this, though not as extortionary is it is now (almost 40% more than last year).

Please, please PLEASE can't someone in the US produce a decent target rifle?
 
#18 ·
n9fzx said:
Absolutely. At this point, the only good thing about my Anschutz purchase is that the rifle performs as desired. Delivery time from ordering was five months, instruction manual was unenlightning. Of course, that was better than the non-existant manue for the 6834 sight set (I had to figure out the cw/ccw left/right up/down for myself, also that elevation was in 1/4 MOA but windage in 1/2 MOA clicks). Spare parts? Try 5-6 MONTHS if you break anything. And I paid a premium price for this, though not as extortionary is it is now (almost 40% more than last year).

Please, please PLEASE can't someone in the US produce a decent target rifle?
I find it hard to believe that parts are that hard to find for an Anschutz rifle or sight.

With all the places that handle this type of equipment. I never needed to many parts, a couple of extra firing pins for my 64 action, as i was told they were prone to breakage, I would carry one in my pocket just in case it broke on the line at a silhouette match. They never broke.

I bought my first one used, a mod 1416d sporter, no manual or anything. I emailed Anschutz and had a manual in about 10 days. I have emailed them a few times with questions always getting a quick and usually informative reply.

I think you can get a quality target rifle made here, but you are gonna pay for it.
 
#20 ·
US Manufacturers have made several...

n9fzx said:
Absolutely. At this point, the only good thing about my Anschutz purchase is that the rifle performs as desired. Delivery time from ordering was five months, instruction manual was unenlightning. Of course, that was better than the non-existant manue for the 6834 sight set (I had to figure out the cw/ccw left/right up/down for myself, also that elevation was in 1/4 MOA but windage in 1/2 MOA clicks). Spare parts? Try 5-6 MONTHS if you break anything. And I paid a premium price for this, though not as extortionary is it is now (almost 40% more than last year).

Please, please PLEASE can't someone in the US produce a decent target rifle?
decent target rimfires over the years. Kimber has a model sold through the CMP, Remington has their target models, Marlin's tried and I'm sure there have been others. I'm sure one or two of these have won competitions at one time or another. German manufacters dominate the rimfire scene. Between Walther, Feinwerkbau, Anschutz and Weihrauch, Germans produce some of the finest rimfires in the World. Anschutzes dealer and service network is one of the finest. The Anschutz dealer network has a good parts supply and there are also plenty of used parts available over the internet.

Rimfires aren't that complicated and the owners manual is as good or better than other manuals produced by both domestic and foreign manufacturers. Anschutz also responds to e-mails very quickly. Another resource are the dealers. Just pick up a phone.
 
#21 ·
Dan S said:
Rimfires aren't that complicated and the owners manual is as good or better than other manuals produced by both domestic and foreign manufacturers.
I have to, with respect, disagree. Just for instances, the manuals that came with my Ruger 10/22's and my CZ 452's are vastly superior to what I got with my Anschutz'. As I said, the maunal that comes with a Daisy BB gun is superior. I understand that the information is available, easily, elsewhere. My point is that, for the cost of an Annie, it ought to be packed with the rifle.

(Just the difference in philosophies between us and the Germans, I guess. I have for years owned German automobiles. It is just in the last couple of years that you could get a German car with a decent cupholder. Why? Because the Germans believe that you shouldn't be sipping on ANYTHING while you are driving.)
 
#22 ·
Cupholders.....

that makes me laugh. Our 2001 Saab has the crappiest cupholder in the history of cupholders.

Some of the new Anschutz owners manuals explain that the bolt needs to be cocked when inserted. Course that just makes sense, because it has to be cocked to come out. There is no way to remove the bolt without it being cocked since its cocked when the bolt handle is lifted. As a result, to put the bolt back in it needs to be cocked before going in.

I need to explain that there has been times I tried to put an uncocked bolt into an action too, so no offense to the people that tried to install uncocked bolts.

Its good to find copies of the sales brochures from the years your rifle was produced. They have more measurements, weights, specs., etc. than the owners manuals.