What are you planning on doing with the rifle if you get it? plinking, hunting, ARA, NRL22/PRS22?

I don't own a Tikka T1X but, I do have four CZ 457's

I looked at the Tikka but, couldn't get past the "toyish" feel of the gun.

 

I looked at the Tikka but, couldn't get past the "toyish" feel of the gun.

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This was my hang up as well. I would be happy with either, but the plastic turned me away as well.
Both are accurate rifles.
I vote CZ because of my personal preference in firearms.

Although.
If I was dragging the rifle through a swamp, and using it to move briars away in the field then I would probably prefer the TX1 as a tool.

 

Lots of CZ fans here. It's a much bigger ecosystem and a consistently sweet shooting tack driver in all formats. There are a lot more configurations of CZs to choose from to fit whatever need you have. I'm sure the Tikka is nice too, but you'll never catch me pining for one over a CZ.

 

Production class...with the option of moving to open, but realizing I will be handicapped trying to work a bolt gun wrong handed. Seems like the CZ would be the right choice given the resale options if it doesn't work as planned. More interested in experiences of a Lefty who went RH bolt, but all insight is greatly appreciated...

 

More interested in experiences of a Lefty who went RH bolt, but all insight is greatly appreciated...

if you are looking at ARA production you will find it is pretty much dominated by CZ's. I am right handed but I have shot a right bolt left feed single shot rifle. There is a learning curve but within 10 or 20 shots it was second nature, just guessing here but I would assume working a right bolt being left handed would be similar. I am sure you could find someone who would let you try one just to see. It's not like you would be shooting PRS where you need to work the bolt fast

That said a friend let me run a box of ammo through his Tikka. It's an nice rifle, nothing bad to say about it.

 

They are both very good rimfire rifles and comparable in accuracy in stock form. As far as I know there is much more aftermarket for CZ and the barrels are easily changed and upgrades are readily available. CZ dominates competition. And the wood stocks are more attractive to me. Tikka stocks do interchange with Tikka centerfire rifles. I suppose it depends on what you like and what you want to do.

 

I'm a lefty shooting a RH bolt. I have 2 & 1/2 CZ 457s (American, Lux, and a receiver to start a build with). I've never held or shot a Tikka, so I can't speak to their performance, but I am a wood kinda guy. If I got a T1X, I'd have to replace the stock. As far as LH shooting with a RH bolt gun...I got my first rifle a couple years ago, when supply was limited. RH was all I could find. I only shoot the bolt guns off a bench, and having my left hand on the trigger while the right hand works the bolt actually feels natural to me. So much so that I will only buy RH bolt guns now. If you are shooting offhand, that is another story. I posted a similar question about LH shooter/RH guns a while ago, and got some very good responses. May be worth a read....

Left Handed Shooter Question

I am left handed, and do most things, including shooting, left handed. I bought my first 22 rifle a couple of years ago (Ruger Precision Rimfire), which is a RH gun. I have since added a CZ 457 American and a 10/22, both right handed guns. I am very comfortable shooting these guns, and...

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I have both the T1X and 457 AT-One. Both equally accurate. When I'm behind the T1X shooting bug holes at 50, I don't gives a rats butt what the stock looks like. It's a tool, a very accurate tool. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

You and me both.

 

I do prefer the CZ but then again the Tikka is a excellent rifle so whatever choice you won't go wrong.

 

Whatever floats your boat. Just get one. Ha

 

I played around with a Tikka at a lgs and the action was smooth and had it have been the 20" I would have bought it for hunting. I have 2 CZ 457 Varmint Mtr's for br and a 457 American Synthetic for squirrel hunting, glad I went the CZ route.

 

why not this CZ lefty

 

CZ457 all the way

 

Two weeks ago I handled both the Tikka T1x and the CZ 457 Varmint at my LGS. I bought the 457 Varmint. The lightweight synthetic stock made the T1x feel less than a Tikka to me. I love Tikka centerfire rifles but was underwhelmed by the T1x. The 457 Varmint looks and feels like a high quality rifle. Either will be an amazing shooter, but for feel, looks, and pride of ownership it was CZ for me.

 

I have both.

The Tikka has been put in a Roughtech Ember stock and it really improves the overall feel.

Trigger on the T1X is better.

Bolt throw on the 457 is a touch smoother and faster to cycle, just barely though. If I spent some time polishing on the T1X bolt I could probably get it close...

The Tikka groups better with RWS Rifle Match (except for that bottom left group, no idea what was going on there...)

If my 457 shot as well as the Tikka, it would be my go to rifle, hands down. The cheek weld, both thrown and "feel" of the 457 I really enjoy but it is not as accurate (considering rebarreling the CZ). As they sit now, it's a toss up and Oh Darn, I have to take both out to the range! ;-D

 

I have both.

The Tikka has been put in a Roughtech Ember stock and it really improves the overall feel.

Trigger on the T1X is better.

Bolt throw on the 457 is a touch smoother and faster to cycle, just barely though. If I spent some time polishing on the T1X bolt I could probably get it close...

The Tikka groups better with RWS Rifle Match (except for that bottom left group, no idea what was going on there...)

If my 457 shot as well as the Tikka, it would be my go to rifle, hands down. The cheek weld, both thrown and "feel" of the 457 I really enjoy but it is not as accurate (considering rebarreling the CZ). As they sit now, it's a toss up and Oh Darn, I have to take both out to the range! ;-D

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Couldn't decide so you got both and like em both....you're not helping me here !

 

Here's a simple case for you.

I'm a Brno/CZ nut, but decided on Tikka T1xs for the wife and eldest daughter (1 each).

Today, after 4 iterations since December, we may have finally gotten to a point where the wife is comfortable with her T1x. 4 different stocks, lots of mods and tweaks.

The Tikka does what it does reasonably well and as a tool it is sufficiently adequate.

This is a Tikka T3 Roughtec green stock with adjustable mods on her T1x. If this doesn't shoot comfortably for her, she can have my 452 American.

 

Here's a simple case for you.

I'm a Brno/CZ nut, but decided on Tikka T1xs for the wife and eldest daughter (1 each).

Today, after 4 iterations since December, we may have finally gotten to a point where the wife is comfortable with her T1x. 4 different stocks, lots of mods and tweaks.

The Tikka does what it does reasonably well and as a tool it is sufficiently adequate.

This is a Tikka T3 Roughtec green stock with adjustable mods on her T1x. If this doesn't shoot comfortably for her, she can have my 452 American.



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Definitely a much better look for this rifle than the OEM stock - even more so with the added functionality of the cheek riser, and the bolt on grip and forend.

I have the same stock - it came off the T3X Super Varmint, and all the nice things I said about it above notwithstanding I couldn't wait to rescue that action out of it and rehome it in the MDT XRS chassis - that's just what I do though, probably 90% of time, with the exceptions as related to rimfire so far limited to Manners stocks.

While imo this stock doesn't degrade the rifle's accuracy as many shooters who kept it can attest to... it does negatively impact our accuracy with the rifle due to its light weight and relative lack of opportunities to tailor the ergos to our preferences.

Here are some side-by-side photos of the 2 stocks - after me adding the "vertical" pistol grip, "beavertail" forend" and T3 pad they are essentially identical, with the subtle differences consisting only of the additional attachment point for the strap-on 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️‍ "beavertail" forend and the location of the front swivel stud and of course the extra space for the centerfire mag.

Still, though, questions remain - how would Tikka T1X's marketshare v. CZ 457 change had the company invested, say, $50 in production costs in pillar bedding and perhaps a more "attractive" stock, and - for Christ's sake 🤦‍♂️- actual bottom METAL - to me that plastic trigger guard is basically unforgiveable 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
To be sure those aren't the questions gun makers ask themselves in today's red hot "you can sell stuff faster than you make it" market.

And just to be clear - I'm being picky, even with the opportunities to be better I named the stock is structurally legit, for rimfire in particular, but this rifle just deserves better!

Why?.. Because the results of my statistically robust (based on the sample of 1🤦‍♂️) study put it ahead of every single non-MTR CZ 457 I tested it against (before rebarreling them) in accuracy, and the results v. the 2 MTRs (16.5" and 20") were inconclusive.

 

I would go CZ

 

By the time you buy the rifle and pay for the modifications you can build a custom right hand bolt with left hand feed and achieve accuracy that the cz will never achieve. I've shot the ara factory class for years now . I've owned 452's all the way to 457. The 452' s and 455's I owned would out perform any of the 457's I owned. I've actually had more problems with the 457's having barrel defects from the factory. One mtr I had the barrel was tighter half way from the breech to muzzle causing the barrel to lead up and shoot fliers after about 25 rounds or so the other I had was a jaguar that had rust pitting from the factory in the bore. I assume this was from heat treatment gone wrong in the heating process of forging the barrel causing the rust to form. I personally would buy a custom action and barrel, find a stock I wanted, have the action bedded to the stock and barrel inletted . This way you can get what accuracy you are trying to achieve. Also being a lefty using a right hand bolt will probably be easier for you to have a left hand feed so while learning to use your right hand you can feed your ammo with you dominate hand.

 

One mtr I had the barrel was tighter half way from the breech to muzzle causing the barrel to lead up and shoot fliers after about 25 rounds

match barrels should have about a .0005 choke

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Because the bullet expands to fill the bore as it exits the case, tight barrels will not shoot any better than those of standard dimensions (.222 groove, .217 bore). However, experience has shown that accuracy is improved by having a slight tightening of the barrel towards the muzzle, or a choke at the muzzle. The tightening or choke does not need to be much – less than half a ‘thou – but this seems to improve the gas seal down the barrel.

 

Never owned a Tikka; however, have handled many of them at the LGS and think they are a gun with fine attributes. That being said, I have not bought one yet. I like nice wood stocks and Tikka doesn’t supply them in quantity. If I lived off the grid, maybe the synthetic would be fine. Buy both and see what you like more after shooting 500 rounds.

 

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In Praise of Left Hand Bolt Guns:

I have one of each in Left Hand 22LR and a T1X in 17HMR as well. The 457 has a factory wood stock and I managed to get a 22WMR Barrel for it. It's installed and deadly accurate. Waiting for warmer weather to get it out to 100-150 yds.

Got 6-Rimfire Lefties and I'm thinking of thinning the herd but I can't part with any of them. I like em all for different reasons. The 452 is in 17HMR. Got it off Gunbroker last fall with fewer than 200 rds through it. Factory box, target and all the paper work. Classy looking, old school rimfire deadly accurate. They all shoot ragged 1 hole groups at 50 yds with CCI ammo. [Indoor Range 6-24 scope.]

Get one of everything and you'll be happy.

My experience led me to believe f you only shoot off a bench a RH bolt will be fine.
Other than that if you try a lefty you'll probably never go back. All I do is shoot gophers and mix and match scopes and test ammo so I love my lefties.

Good luck.

 

I would like to know where you got a left handed .22wmr barrel for your Tikka?

 

I am a lefty and have a CZ 457 Trainer. I have no problems with the right hand bolt, in fact I prefer it.

 

Two New Left-Handed CZ 457 Rimfire Rifles Now Available

Two new left-handed CZ 457 rimfire rifles have just been announced chambered in 22LR and 22WMR hand-tailored for left-handed shooters.

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Two New Left-Handed CZ 457 Rimfire Rifles Now Available

Two new left-handed CZ 457 rimfire rifles have just been announced chambered in 22LR and 22WMR hand-tailored for left-handed shooters.

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can't imagine buying or not buying a gun on cosmetics I own a CZ 455 with a boyds stock and a Tikka both shoot extremally well the trigger on the Tikka is way better than the CZ the Tikka is also more modular all in all if I had to live with just 1 it would be the Tikka

 

The unhelpful spoiler = Lithgow LA101.

But seriously: CZ has more aftermarket options for barrels and stocks, if you feel like spending more money down the road.
My Tikka is a fine performer though, probably better "out of the box" than most of my CZ's that are later than a 452. Wooden Tikka stocks are available, but spendy.

 

I have a 452 varmint and T1x, both in .17 HMR, so similar comparison.

As for the CZ, all steel and walnut, good bit heavier. Trigger is 1.5#, took a little work to get it there. Sub MOA out to 100 with TNT HP ammo. Has a higher quality feel than the Tikka.
In regard to the Tikka, a lot of polymer (aka plastic), much lighter as a result. Trigger is comparable to the CZ, simple adjustment. Not really ammo sensitive, shoots everything well, also sub MOA out to 100. I have the exact same 6x20 scope on both rifles.

Because of the lighter weight and the threaded muzzle, the Tikka gets more use. Since I got a suppressor, most of my rimfire shooting is suppressed.

 

My first .22 rifle was a Savage Mk II FVXP which I bought on sale about 10 years ago and it has been a right out of the box tack driver. I have done nothing to it except shoot it and clean it. For me it was a good way to get into the sport w/o breaking the bank. I now have other .22 rifles but whenever I go to the range the Savage is always one of the two I take with me.
And btw, my CZ 455 Varmint is the only other firearm I own that will give the Savage any serious competition; at least in my hands.

 

Yeah I would definitely just buy both! Hard decision just picking one or the other. If you’re like me after somewhat choosing the one you thinks right you’ll think about the other one wondering if it had been better.
Multiple 22 rifles is a necessity to the hobby.