Imho, The only significant change is the lower bolt throw allows you to get the scope mounted a bit lower. If you're a stock hugger, that would be better. As for the other changes, cosmetic . But i havent held one, i suggest you do that before you decide.

 

I apologize in advance as I didn't read all of the posts.

If I remember correctly, the 457 also has a free floating barrel and the 455 does not have one.

 

In my opinion. The 457 is far superior to the 455 in EVERY WAY. If I could go back, I would have never bought four 455s and 8 extra barrels and 7 extra stocks. The trigger is totally adjustable and very wide. Bottom metal is a machined not stamped. Bolt is very easy to disassemble. Very short throw. Bolt knob unscrews and is replaceable. Loaded chamber indicator on back of bolt. Go with the 457.

 

1. 455 trigger is adjustable , parts upgradeble and aftermarket replaceable.
2. 455 Trigger shoe $20 if you like a fat wide smooth trigger blade
3. Fancy 455 bottom metal. Easily obtainable . Cosmetic.
4. 455 bolt disassembly, harder, but not needed cause the firing pins and striker springs dont fail or need upgrades.
5. Short throw, nicer, but not critical to me.
6. Bolt knob comes off easy, sounds like a lost bolt knob to me.
7. Loaded Chamber indicator, Added by a lawyer.

Missed the safety change, the 457 corrected the direction and position of the safety, to end all the confusion

The most important difference is how does it feel in your hands, if it feels bettor, then it is better, functionally its the same gun, a bolt action 22 , it takes the same magazines and barrels.

4 Guns 8 barrels and 7 stocks, just immaginee how many if you liked the darn things

Im glad you are so enthusiastic about the 457, i haven't held one yet, no dealers with inventory around here, but im looking forward to doing so. Maybe ill like them better too. 4 guns 6 barrels 6 stocks.

 

I recently had a choice between a 455 Scout (used) and a 457 Scout (new). I chose the 457.

What's not to like. I looked at the totality of the 457: adjustable trigger, pillar bedded, 60 degree bolt lift, changed trigger guard, push-forward safety, and the cost of the 457 in one store was less than the cost of the 455 in a different store.

The bolt-lift, cost, and excellent trigger sold me.

 

What's not to like. I looked at the totality of the 457: adjustable trigger, pillar bedded, 60 degree bolt lift, changed trigger guard, push-forward safety, and the cost of the 457 in one store was less than the cost of the 455 in a different store.

The bolt-lift, cost, and excellent trigger sold me.

I had no complaint with the 452 or 455 but if you read the complaints against them the 457 has "corrected" pretty much all the common ones.

 

As above, the bolt throw and improved trigger is what sold me on the 457, though I also like the slightly more compact action and 527 style bolt release. Not that I intend to start dumping our 455s, by any means, but I do appreciate the changes.

 

I'm just not a fan of the 457 styling.

 

Although I am a new CZ owner I do like the 457 better then the 455. However, this is based on one gun each, both American models, one 455 with a "plastic" stock and one 457 American with a walnut stock.

I purchased the 457 first as I was looking for a switch barrel gun. After doing so I decided to keep the 457 as is (22LR) and get a 455 to put a Lilja 17 Mach II barrel on knowing that the gun would need trigger work for my style of shooting. I should add, the 455 was an on sale gun with a price I could not resist given what I wanted to do

The safety, cock indicator, smaller receiver, bolt curve, and trigger on the 457 are, in my mind, better suited to my needs then the 455. Now, the 455 has gotten the Lilja barrel and some trigger work along with some necessary barrel channel work to accommodate the Lilja barrel I am in no way dissatisfied with the gun although I wish it had the safety of the 457. All that being said, I must say it (the 455) is really an OK gun.

 

Go with appearance. Unless you are an Olympic marksman you won't be able to tell the difference between a 455 and a 457.

The 60 degree bolt lift is not critical. You can mount scopes sufficiently low on a 455. The "American" safety is not critical either. The old 455 safety cammed the striker out of engagement with the sear and could not be accidentally brushed off. The 455 trigger can be adjusted down to about three pounds and that is perfectly fine. The stamped trigger guard on the 455 is frowned upon but that is a cosmetic issue which may or may not bother you.

Personally I like the look of the 455. It has that Mauser sporter look about it. But if that doesn't appeal to you then get a 457.

 

I tend to agree with Old 39. I prefer the blued steel to nitride finish--even though I know nitride is actually "better". I have several 452s and 455s--really enjoy them all. Will someday get a 457 (unk which model), but the appearance does matter to me; of course it is your decision...I'm just sharing my thoughts. You can't go wrong with whatever you decide though...CZ rimfires are really that good IMO.

 

I have both. A 455 and a 457 Varmint. There both really good rifles.
Both now have a less than 14 oz pull with no creep. There have been no changes on my 457,different springs etc.
As you know there are lots of items for the 455 and not much for the 457. I'm sure there will be some for the 457 in the future.
I have changed the bolt knob on my 457. The only other item I might change on my 457 will be the stock. I'll go to a bench rest style when Tony Mele has them available.
:F

 

I had to make that very choice a few months back and decided the 455 would suffice as my first CZ. I don't regret my decision in the least, the 455 is a fine rifle but the 457's upgraded features were VERY tempting.

 

Both are CZ's, both excellent rifles. I'ver never had an issue with the 455, nothing really to complain about them, if you don't like the trigger and bottom metal I guess you have an issue with the 452 also. I just don't like the 457 styling, the metal finish, I prefer a true blued finish and a link to the original Mauser DNA, but that's just me. I would not hesitate to add another 455 to my .22's.

If you have a 455, handle the 457..............both best in their price range!

 

+1

Oh, I forgot to mention the ugly stocks.

 

I keep hearing of all the great things about the 457 but the most important thing to me is accuracy. Is the accuracy of the 457 better, the same, or worse than the 452 and 455?
I don’t care about nice stocks, bottom metal, or other changes like reversing the throw on the safety.

 

They are both fine rifles and I haven't noticed any inherent differences in accuracy or functionality that pull me one way or the other.

The 457 may be slightly more refined out of the box, but you can only get a BScar trigger for the 455! :1luvu:

 

I love my 457 but they don’t make it in Left hand (had to buy a savage b17, yuck!) & they don’t have a full stock. Both you can get with the 452 and the full stock 455 can be bought off the shelf as I write this.

 

Thank you all for your comments. There is not a CZ anywhere near me so being able to handle a 457 will not happen. I do like Blue and Walnut and lean that way as much as possible, I do hear that the Nitride finish is very durable and not too bad looking. I will have to order which ever I go with online so being able to touch or look at will not be possible. I will choose here soon, wish me good luck. Thanks.

 

So what model are you looking at that does make a difference.

Signalman

 

I work with military grade weapons and have been using weapons with nitride finish for years. I will say this is like no nitride finish I’ve ever seen, it’s much more refined. I reminds me of a very well executed browning or a fine satin blue. Because of whatever they do in the process there are no machining marks visible unlike the 455’s I’ve seen. I love the finish on mine! It’s not like parkerization. Nitride , if done right, is super durable and corrosion resistant and slick to the touch. We use it on machine gun barrels.

 

I have more 452s than 455s and to me the 457 like Gerald (GMD1950) has spoken all the concerns they had with those models has been taken care of...which is fantastic in my book.

The biggest problem for me and most other people was the fun you would have bolting on a scope...most scopes today have huge Oculars and that does make it difficult for mounting a scope on a 452/5 rifle. With the lower bolt lift on the 457 you can mount any size or brand you like for me that is huge change.

The other item that is important to me for the 457s is the recoil pad...the 452/455 American model never came with one and that made me hunt for special models that did (deluxe). I look for rifles with recoil pads they fit me better and the second thing is my 455 Trainer almost hit the floor twice because of the slick plastic butt plate on that rifle...I have done everything I can to put a recoil pad on every CZ rifle I own...with most every model of the 457s I don't have to worry about that any more...(don't know about the scout).

it this day and age I am very pleased that CZ has listened to their customers about the problems with their product and made changes...I am waiting for the new 529 CF models with tapped receiver so we can mount the scopes we like lower on those than we could on our 527s.

The forward safety is a nice change but not a deal breaker in my book...now most 457s are pillar bedded definite Bonus towards better accuracy. The finish is very nice but almost ever gun maker is getting away from the "Ruger Blue" of yesterday and the 457 is much better than some out there.

I don't have a 457 rifle yet but it's on my list.

I will not sell any of my CZs that I own to buy a 457 but I am really happy to buy a 457 when the time is right for me...had some major changes lately and when things get back to normal...a 457 is heading my way. :bthumb:

This is your decision on what you like best and the way they feel...OH yeah the 457 also has checkering where some of the 452/455 models did not it is just the little things that us CZ lovers notice...anyway this is your rifle and you are the one buying it so go check out both and then decide.

Good luck on your quest. :bthumb:

Signalman

 

Just my opinion I don't care for the trigger on the 457. I like my trigger pull in oz's the 455 is much easier to achieve that.

 

The model that I want is the 457, 22 lr Varmint with the 20.5" bbl., Walnut stock. My other consideration would be the 455, 22 lr. in a Thumbhole stock. I am not really sure which "up grade" means the most, it seems to be the bolt lift of the 457 for scope clearance but do I need a 50mm front objective lense. All of my decisions have to be made with a wing and a prayer.

 

With a 50 mm lens the low bolt lift would be no advantage. By the time objective clearance is reached in height, bolt clearance has already achieved. In the case of small objective scopes the bolt lift can easily be an issue.

 

Makes sense, also eases my decision making.

 

I'll repeat an earlier post of mine in another thread. I really loved my 455 varmint model until it became unreliable with the bolt handle retention problem when cycling, 457 solved that and a lot of other little annoying issues. I actually used that gun heavily for matches for a few years, so it saw a lot of use and a lot of dry fire practice as well.

Barrels and barrel retention method is the same between the two models so no differences in accuracy if using the same profile of barrel.

1) The side mounted positive bolt stop. Removed a huge problem on the 455.

Bolt stop on the 455 is the trigger sear assy front edge and when the bolt, sear, or both start to chamfer wear on their contacting edges the bolt will pull right out of the action when ejecting a spent case, leaving you holding a bolt in one hand and your rifle in the other. This is aggravated with lighter trigger spring pressures, but will happen to all of them eventually, poor design. My 455 is almost worthless now as it does this at least once every 2-4 shots. Rifle has almost 3 cases shot through it, but is not a one off example as I personally know 4 other individuals that have had this same problem with 455's.

2) Factory threaded handle---allows easy change of bolt handle knob for user preference

3) 60 degree bolt throw---more scope bell clearance, easier bolt cycling

4) shorter bolt throw---easier bolt cycling

5) traditional right side mounted safety lever--- much easier to use and intuitive

6) same magazine system as the 452/3/5, can use my old mags in this one

Trigger was meh for me. Factory set at just under 3 lbs. and one the mushiest, carrot break triggers I've run across in while. But I don't use this for a benchrest rifle, it's a field rifle and class rules dictate a 2lb+ trigger pull so it has been fine so far.

All in all a very big improvement in features and safety over the 455 series

 

I'll repeat an earlier post of mine in another thread. I really loved my 455 varmint model until it became unreliable with the bolt handle retention problem when cycling, 457 solved that and a lot of other little annoying issues. I actually used that gun heavily for matches for a few years, so it saw a lot of use and a lot of dry fire practice as well.
wolfshoon, I do not understand what you mean by your 455 Varmint became unreliable.

 

With a CZ you can't really go wrong with any model, as a hunter I prefer the classic looks of the 452, 455 and the Brno rifles, they have a touch of that classic Mauser KK DNA.

I have to laugh, when the 455 debuted so many disliked the 455 barrel retention system, now they have no issue with it on the 457. I also wonder why so many 455 models are still cataloged for the rest of the planet to purchase, maybe their on to something we don't see.

 

I'm new to the CZ rifle craze. I purchased a 455 in 22 WMR Full Stock in Walnut.
Reasons:
1) I wanted a 22 WMR to complement my Browning semi auto 22 RL
2) I hate plastic stocks
3) I love Full Stocks , 457 isn't available in FS and speaking w/factory, won't likely be made.
4) I'm old enough, I won't wear anything on the 455 out and will still be able to pass along to my grandson.
5) I will say the walnut on the FS is plain Jane Blah!
6) The only thing that is critical in my rifle is a) safety and b) accuracy to 150 yards to shot coyotes.
7) Someday I'd like to have a 17 WSR in a rifle not made of plastic.

Still waiting to shot it as the holidays spread out, I'll have time. Fortunately I have a large pasture that has a mound I can use as a backstop.

 

Having the bolt come out ain't good. Well I guess that my mind is made up. Thanks to all of you for your help.

 

I like the 457 just fine..but I also like 452's and 455's, I have never had an issue with the safety, bolt throw, etc. The one thing I dont care for one the 457 is the exposed firing pin, not a deal breaker but I don't like it.

 

If the bolt is coming out in normal cycling then there is insufficient interaction between the sear and bolt, if it left the factory that way its a "warranty issue" and should be returned. If it's because the owner fiddled with that interaction then they should reverse their "tinkering", CZ's are not expensive match rifles that are meant from the factory to have trigger pulls in the ounces, they can often be modified to have such but that's on the owner.

 

Which ones have the match chamber and are they more accurate?

 

The 457 MTR(match target rifle) has a match chamber. The only one that I know of.