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I think the buzz wore off. I'm seeing visions of Kimber. Doesn't really matter to me as I have 11 or 12 Coopers and they all shoot very well. Even if they do start producing again, I'm afraid the pricing will be way beyond what the average enthusiast can afford. Even the most recent Cooper price list was very expensive. I paid no where near those prices.
These new guys, from what I have seen are changing what we used to know as Cooper rifles and turning them into some tactical crap.

Danny
 
These new guys, from what I have seen are changing what we used to know as Cooper rifles and turning them into some tactical crap.

Danny
If that’s true, it makes sense. Lots more margin in plastic than wood that requires more skill and labor and cost. If they go that route, why even buy the Cooper name which was synonymous with high end wood and metal. There used to be an old term no one uses anymore. “They pulled a boner”.
 
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I have lost my respect for the present and future Cooper. Sad, but when a company refuses to communicate that is what happens.
 
NightHawk has no trouble selling 1911-2011's, with $4500 now being a middle of the road price.
They also sell Korth revolvers, they start at $3800 going up to $9000. I saw a video on Cooper of Arkansas and the general manager stated that they would be limited in production. My bet they will sell everyone they can make.
I bet you have the correct response. A very few employees making a few rifles and selling everything they make.
 
These new guys, from what I have seen are changing what we used to know as Cooper rifles and turning them into some tactical crap.

Danny
Maybe, as a major part of today's market is "tactical" crap. BUT, given the rest of Nighthawk's product line of really high-end and presumably high quality firearms, that doesn't seem to fit, IMO. The centerfire rifle market is a good bit larger than the rimfire market, especially for high-end rifles. I expect the first Nighthawk Coopers to be very expensive CF rifles with exquisite wood and metalwork. Some of that may be bespoke with features chosen and ordered by the customer. Canyon Creek has been quite successful doing something similar with custom stocks and special metalwork on existing rifles -- new or sent to them by the customer. I have and have had several Canyon Creek rifles. CC does CF and RF rifles, but my impression is that the majority are CF. Their work is truly artisan, and while their pricing used to be high, these days it is almost other-worldly. There is definitely a market out there with deep-pocket customers who buy multiples of such rifles whether for collecting or actual hunting. Who knows when or if rimfire rifles will be part of Nighthawk's mix. Nighthawk is not giving us any clues, so we may not know anything until the new rifles appear.

Doug
 
Maybe, as a major part of today's market is "tactical" crap. BUT, given the rest of Nighthawk's product line of really high-end and presumably high quality firearms, that doesn't seem to fit, IMO. The centerfire rifle market is a good bit larger than the rimfire market, especially for high-end rifles. I expect the first Nighthawk Coopers to be very expensive CF rifles with exquisite wood and metalwork. Some of that may be bespoke with features chosen and ordered by the customer. Canyon Creek has been quite successful doing something similar with custom stocks and special metalwork on existing rifles -- new or sent to them by the customer. I have and have had several Canyon Creek rifles. CC does CF and RF rifles, but my impression is that the majority are CF. Their work is truly artisan, and while their pricing used to be high, these days it is almost other-worldly. There is definitely a market out there with deep-pocket customers who buy multiples of such rifles whether for collecting or actual hunting. Who knows when or if rimfire rifles will be part of Nighthawk's mix. Nighthawk is not giving us any clues, so we may not know anything until the new rifles appear.

Doug
We may not EVER know anything, if you get my drift. Like someone said: they are supposed to be building rifles, not building buildings. Multiple buildings could have been put up in that time period.

Danny
 
I doubt Cooper now , will produce anything- if they do it’ll be a rebrand knock off REM action like a Stiller that everyone puts their name on-??

so far they’ve assembled and sold Montana parts & rifles.. not sure how many more parts they have…

I do like they tiny actions or cartridge appropriate size they did offer- makes for great carrying rifles-

it would be nice to see the M38 action come back- or a single shot M21 come back…I’m not a fan of the wood, since their B&C stocks are more of my everyday use stuff..

On another note- I ordered some FP springs for my rifles- and a few spare bolt parts…( made some springs for my rimfires, since they aren’t/haven’t been in production)…
Glen said to check for spring bind , then cut if needed..

be sure to store your rifle w/ the pin in rested position (FIRED) … b/c they do take set after 27yrs of being cocked !!!
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good luck getting the Allen pin out of the cocking piece- some heat will loosen the red loctite on both the back screw & Allen screw pin in the cocking piece… I reassembled w/ blue loctite ( fingernail polish also works)
 
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