It would be nice if Cooper would communicate here as to their status and progress!! Yesterday I sent an email to this effect to Cooper Arkansas.
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Welcome to the Forum. I have a Grandson named Cooper, but he is not old enough to shoot any of them yet.Funny fact my last name is Cooper
Thank you for the warm welcome! Clever user name. Seems a lot of people are using Cooper as a 1st name.Welcome to the Forum. I have a Grandson named Cooper, but he is not old enough to shoot any of them yet.
These new guys, from what I have seen are changing what we used to know as Cooper rifles and turning them into some tactical crap.I think the buzz wore off. I'm seeing visions of Kimber. Doesn't really matter to me as I have 11 or 12 Coopers and they all shoot very well. Even if they do start producing again, I'm afraid the pricing will be way beyond what the average enthusiast can afford. Even the most recent Cooper price list was very expensive. I paid no where near those prices.
If that’s true, it makes sense. Lots more margin in plastic than wood that requires more skill and labor and cost. If they go that route, why even buy the Cooper name which was synonymous with high end wood and metal. There used to be an old term no one uses anymore. “They pulled a boner”.These new guys, from what I have seen are changing what we used to know as Cooper rifles and turning them into some tactical crap.
Danny
I bet you have the correct response. A very few employees making a few rifles and selling everything they make.NightHawk has no trouble selling 1911-2011's, with $4500 now being a middle of the road price.
They also sell Korth revolvers, they start at $3800 going up to $9000. I saw a video on Cooper of Arkansas and the general manager stated that they would be limited in production. My bet they will sell everyone they can make.
Maybe, as a major part of today's market is "tactical" crap. BUT, given the rest of Nighthawk's product line of really high-end and presumably high quality firearms, that doesn't seem to fit, IMO. The centerfire rifle market is a good bit larger than the rimfire market, especially for high-end rifles. I expect the first Nighthawk Coopers to be very expensive CF rifles with exquisite wood and metalwork. Some of that may be bespoke with features chosen and ordered by the customer. Canyon Creek has been quite successful doing something similar with custom stocks and special metalwork on existing rifles -- new or sent to them by the customer. I have and have had several Canyon Creek rifles. CC does CF and RF rifles, but my impression is that the majority are CF. Their work is truly artisan, and while their pricing used to be high, these days it is almost other-worldly. There is definitely a market out there with deep-pocket customers who buy multiples of such rifles whether for collecting or actual hunting. Who knows when or if rimfire rifles will be part of Nighthawk's mix. Nighthawk is not giving us any clues, so we may not know anything until the new rifles appear.These new guys, from what I have seen are changing what we used to know as Cooper rifles and turning them into some tactical crap.
Danny
We may not EVER know anything, if you get my drift. Like someone said: they are supposed to be building rifles, not building buildings. Multiple buildings could have been put up in that time period.Maybe, as a major part of today's market is "tactical" crap. BUT, given the rest of Nighthawk's product line of really high-end and presumably high quality firearms, that doesn't seem to fit, IMO. The centerfire rifle market is a good bit larger than the rimfire market, especially for high-end rifles. I expect the first Nighthawk Coopers to be very expensive CF rifles with exquisite wood and metalwork. Some of that may be bespoke with features chosen and ordered by the customer. Canyon Creek has been quite successful doing something similar with custom stocks and special metalwork on existing rifles -- new or sent to them by the customer. I have and have had several Canyon Creek rifles. CC does CF and RF rifles, but my impression is that the majority are CF. Their work is truly artisan, and while their pricing used to be high, these days it is almost other-worldly. There is definitely a market out there with deep-pocket customers who buy multiples of such rifles whether for collecting or actual hunting. Who knows when or if rimfire rifles will be part of Nighthawk's mix. Nighthawk is not giving us any clues, so we may not know anything until the new rifles appear.
Doug