my 702 plinkster

box stock, simmons 3x9 scope, really embarrasses my 10/22 concerning accuracy. it is just as dependable also.

 

The Plinkster....

…..is made in Brazil by CBC for Mossberg. CBC made clones of the famous Rem Nylon 66 rifles about 30 years ago or so. They are not "new to the party", have been making inexpensive accurate 22 rifles for over 50 years. I have a couple of the CBC Nylons and they shoot very well too.

Now, are they as accurate, well made, or "good" as a custom 22 costing 10-15-20 times as much??? No.

Another way of saying this is that if the Plinkster costs $100, you are going to have to spend 5-6-7-8 times this amount to get a better shooter.

 

…..is made in Brazil by CBC for Mossberg. CBC made clones of the famous Rem Nylon 66 rifles about 30 years ago or so. They are not "new to the party", have been making inexpensive accurate 22 rifles for over 50 years. I have a couple of the CBC Nylons and they shoot very well too.

Now, are they as accurate, well made, or "good" as a custom 22 costing 10-15-20 times as much??? No.

Another way of saying this is that if the Plinkster costs $100, you are going to have to spend 5-6-7-8 times this amount to get a better shooter.

Just came from my favorite LGS today. They have a Rock Island Armory M20P with threaded barrel for $160. Bought mine there last year for $180. The M20P is a better shooter than my 10/22 sporter barrel with a good aftermarket bolt and BX Tier 2 trigger. I have about $400 in the 10/22.

The Plinkster is my least accurate 22. It was close to the 10/22 before I started upgrading it. But even at least accurate, it is in the acceptable range. And it will feed any ammo equally well.

 

Chalk another one up for CCI SV

How about some comparisons with your other .22 rifles as far as ACCURACY and FUNCTIONALITY go, price consideration aside?

To answer your question, I looked through my stack of targets and could find none for the 702.

So, this afternoon I took a 702 and 9 different ammo types to the range.

Shooting was very informal with no cleaning or seasoning between ammo changes -- just shoot 5 rounds of one ammo, shoot five rounds with another, and so on.

Without going into a lot of detail, I would say that the $100 702 with a Bushnell 3-12X scope compared very favorably to the other .22LR's that I have, especially since the ones with scopes are all bolt actions. (Actually I do have another scoped 702, but I don't have any records on it. Don't have any other scoped semi's.)

At 25 yards, the best group was with CCI SV. Four shots went into one hole about 5/16 dia. With one flyer, the group was about 0.40 center to center.

I got several similar groups (but a little larger) with Fed Auto Match (3 of 5 shots touching) and Aguila SE SV (3 of 5 shots touching).

Probably would have gotten much better groups if I had taken a few seasoning shots with each ammo change, as the groups seemed to get very good after a couple of shots.

It did seem to prefer SV in general over HV, which is OK with me.

It is also more ammo sensitive accuracy-wise than some of my other rifles, but not by much.

As far as reliability, never had any problems with feeding, firing, or extracting with any ammo, today or any other time.

This is the same rifle I used to kill a running coyote at over 100 yards. Yes, a lucky shot .

I need to try my other 702 that is scoped. With most of my rifles, I just sight them in and then don't do a lot of paper punching.

I like the 702's so well that I have 3 of them. Also just bought a Rossi RS22 which is just like the 702 but different stock. Both made by CBC in Brazil.

 

To answer your question, I looked through my stack of targets and could find none for the 702.

So, this afternoon I took a 702 and 9 different ammo types to the range.

Shooting was very informal with no cleaning or seasoning between ammo changes -- just shoot 5 rounds of one ammo, shoot five rounds with another, and so on.

Without going into a lot of detail, I would say that the $100 702 with a Bushnell 3-12X scope compared very favorably to the other .22LR's that I have, especially since the ones with scopes are all bolt actions. (Actually I do have another scoped 702, but I don't have any records on it. Don't have any other scoped semi's.)

At 25 yards, the best group was with CCI SV. Four shots went into one hole about 5/16 dia. With one flyer, the group was about 0.40 center to center.

I got several similar groups (but a little larger) with Fed Auto Match (3 of 5 shots touching) and Aguila SE SV (3 of 5 shots touching).

Probably would have gotten much better groups if I had taken a few seasoning shots with each ammo change, as the groups seemed to get very good after a couple of shots.

It did seem to prefer SV in general over HV, which is OK with me.

It is also more ammo sensitive accuracy-wise than some of my other rifles, but not by much.

As far as reliability, never had any problems with feeding, firing, or extracting with any ammo, today or any other time.

This is the same rifle I used to kill a running coyote at over 100 yards. Yes, a lucky shot .

I need to try my other 702 that is scoped. With most of my rifles, I just sight them in and then don't do a lot of paper punching.

I like the 702's so well that I have 3 of them. Also just bought a Rossi RS22 which is just like the 702 but different stock. Both made by CBC in Brazil.

toomany,

Thank you for that. Hope you had a lot of fun doing it!

Well, you made up my mind.

I refuse to say the Plinkster "is a great rifle for the money." The Plinkster is just a great rifle, period, I guess.

I'm slowly getting it together and should have a Plinkster soon, one with iron sights, though I may have to switch out fiber optics for the irons.

I'll do you the same courtesy and give you an accuracy report, if you want one.

mikem

PS: Send me a PM with your PayPal address and I'll send you a few $ to pay for that ammo.

 

I have plenty of ammo, but thanks for the offer.

I did have fun. It was very therapeutic. I've been working too hard lately on fall chores around the homestead.

Thank you for giving me the incentive to go to the range.

Look forward to an accuracy report on your rifle when you get it.

 

I have plenty of ammo, but thanks for the offer.

I did have fun. It was very therapeutic. I've been working too hard lately on fall chores around the homestead.

Thank you for giving me the incentive to go to the range.

Look forward to an accuracy report on your rifle when you get it.

Say toomany,

How do you like that SR22? Decent rifle?

 

Yes. Only had it several days but IMO it is an upgrade on the 702.

It has a larger forearm with finger grooves for better grip, comes with sling studs, and the bolt handle is 1/4" longer.

It has the same fiber optic sights as the 702, same barrel length, same mags. The stock is 3/4" shorter than the 702 so that it has a shorter trigger pull.

I recommend the SR22's, but they are a little hard to find.

I plan to remove the sights and put a 6-18X scope on it just to see what it will do with various ammo.

 

Interesting.

I wonder if the screw holes in the RS22 barrel are in the same place(s) as they are on the Plinkster?

I think I read somewhere here that the same company in Brazil that makes the Plinkster also makes the SR22.

Oh yeah, I did read it here. You just said it!

Man, I'm getting old.

 

If you were CBC in Brazil making both rifles, would you make the screw holes different?

I wouldn't.

I haven't taken the time to actually swap out sights, but I am 99% confident that the screw holes are the same on the SR22 (sounds like a cold war spy plane) as on the 702.

Edit: It was the SR71 Blackbird. SR22 is a different airplane.

 

Being a relatively new shooter, I don't have a lot of experience to draw on from different rifles but I am VERY impressed with the Plinkster. I've currently got a red dot sight on it and it is very accurate at 25 yards. It was also accurate with the factory fibre optic sights. I've not shot a lot of different ammo thru it, remmington bucket bulk, blazer, and Federal Black Ice. All shoot well thru it.

I only have my 30 year old (maybe more??) Winchester Cooey 600, made in Canada, to compare it to and it's every bit as accurate.

 

Well, personally, results at 25 yards tell me next to nothing. 100 yards, it's a different story. And there is a difference between 100-yard accuracy clamped in a vise and 100-yard accuracy shooting unsupported (the only REALISTIC measure). And when you start looking at 100-yard accuracy unsupported, most 22 rifles will shoot better than the shooter is capable of. My standards are that if it can bounce pop cans around all day long at 100 yards it's a good shooter, if it can't it's a piece o' crap. Well, that brings all kinds of other variables into the equation. Type of sights (scope, red dot, iron), trigger quality/pull, does the gun fit the shooter, shooter's vision, on and on. So … a gun that gets the "piece o' crap' rating from me might very well get the "excellent shooter" rating from someone else.

Comparing my Ruger 10/22 and my RS22, both with 3-9 40mm scopes in see-through mounts, both get an "Excellent shooter" rating from me. Both feed nearly any kind of ammo without a hiccup. The RS22 is a good $100.00 less. Both can reliably dispatch a squirrel or gopher-sized varmint at 100 yards. I could give a hoot if one can shoot the eye out of a gnat. I never shoot at gnats.

I will say that my RS22 is my favorite between the two. Nothing to do with accuracy or reliability. It just feels "better", it is lighter, I like its fiber optic iron sights better, and just more "attractive" to me. Ruger has wood stock, RS22 has the "Dark Earth" stock. Also the RS22 spare magazines are easier to carry in a pocket … the Ruger rotary magazine is like a lump of turd.

 

Well, personally, results at 25 yards tell me next to nothing. 100 yards, it's a different story.

Well, since MOST .22 LR shooting is done at or under 25 yards plinking or shooting squirrels out of trees I think results at that distance means everything.

Very few people ever shoot a .22 rifle at 100 yards (except those playing at paper punching on the firing range). Paper punching will definitely separate the plinkers from the shooters!!

 

my 702 plinkster............

is probably my most accurate .22 rifle, what ever the price ! I am amazed every time I shoot it.

 

I don't have a 702 ,but now and considering 1 or the SR22. Are iron sights readily available as an upgrade?

 

They both come with excellent fiber optic iron sights. Fiber optic front bead, two fiber optic dots in rear sight. Iron sights may be is misnomer since they are made of polymer.

Those excellent fiber optic iron sights made it a bit of a pain in the ars to find see-thru scope mounts that would preserve use of those sights along with my 3-9 40mm scope. I finally found a scope mount that will actually work and that allows an unrestricted view under the 40mm objective.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000V2ITU/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Regarding ammo, I have a 702 Plinkster, a Rossi RS22 and a Rossi RB22. All have the same barrel. All really like CCI AR Tac. Wolf Match Extra, the best ammo in many of my guns, barely outshoots the AR Tac in these guns.

The RB is about 15% more accurate, becuz bolt action. Targets below shot at 25 yards indoors, with a 12X scope. Second pic is the RB target; third row is AR Tac. Five 5-shot groups; circled numbers are the averages. Second group of the 702's is averaged with and without the lower right flyer (not circled).

I don't consider these guns to be all that accurate target-wise, but are certainly serviceable for actual real-world tasks. You guys who say they are the best things ever, put up some targets.

 

I wish I'd never opened up this thread .

I will NEVER EVER. Buy another .22 rifle.

I mean it... Seriously.

 

Why would this thread cause you to never buy another .22 rifle?

Just curious.

 

Well I got a plinkster the other day. I also have a marlin 7000 and Ruger 10/22 with a match barrel. The plinkster is the least accurate of the three so far but it seems to be the most reliable. I have fed it 6 different kinds of standard and high velocity ammunition and it has run 100 percent. Great little rifle. I’m impressed.


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Well I got a plinkster the ot^her day. I also have a marlin 7000 and Ruger 10/22 with a match barrel. The plinkster is the least accurate of the three so far but it seems to be the most reliable. I have fed it 6 different kinds of standard and high velocity ammunition and it has run 100 percent. Great little rifle. I'm impressed.

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It will be interesting to see if the Plinkster's accuracy will improve at all after it is broken in. If you feel like it, please let us know.

Also, I'm curious as to how far off the Plinkster was compared to the Marlin and Ruger.

Thanks.