???

I'll play. Why do you want to remove it?

 

I want to play too. Tell you what I'll send you 1,000 rounds of nice clean copper colored ones for your waxy ones.
Deltashooter

 

The wax is bullet lube and is there for a reason, why on earth would you want to remove it ?

 

I'll play,

What type of ammo are you buying?

I'll up the anty from Deltashooter by 100 to 1100 nice copperwashed 750's for your over lubed lead bullits

Craig N.

Just trying to mess with ya Delta

 

Try a vibrator/tumbler with some walnut or corncob media. Personally, I think walnut would work faster, but either will take off wax. I would never use a liquid as most .22s are loosley fit to begin with.

 

This is not a smart move, it will probably turn the powder into dust which will increase its burn rate and could cause MAJOR problems especially if you are shooting a semi auto. But thats up to you. Personally I think its a real ding-bat of an idea.
Woody

 

Ammo makers go to the expense of putting special wax on bullets and they "Lay down a coating" that helps the accuracy of their specific ammo.
Why would you want to remove the coating that helps make that ammo accurate?

Richard

 

The wax causes the ammo to not feed well in the clip..

A small amount of wax isnt a problem, but when there are globs of wax sometimes I can actually push the ammo into the clip and it will stay down in the clip....

As soon as I clean the ammo it feeds perfectly.

Maybe the 3 bricks of ammo I got are just bad batches I dunno.

 

I would keep that ammo for some future use and just buy another type or brand of ammo.

 

Clean all the wax off them and don't be surprised if your barrel starts to lead up.

 

That wax/lube is there for a reason. Some brands are thicker than others. If its not working well in your mags, you might have a mag issue. You don't want to clean off any of the lube.

 

Do all brands have wax? I never really paid much attention to it and wasn't aware of why its there.

I think I'll just use this ammo for my bolt 22.

Thanks for the responses.

 

Do all brands have wax? I never really paid much attention to it and wasn't aware of why its there.

I think I'll just use this ammo for my bolt 22.

Thanks for the responses.

Most all do have some sort of lube. Some is thick and waxy and others like SK are like a thin oily lube. Eley and RWS are more of a wax than some of the others, and they are the best shooting brands out there.

 

Do all brands have wax?

Some have a form of dry lube instead of the wax. Then there's the copper washed stuff that tends to leave copper fouling in the barrel. I've seen some unknown steel cased stuff (Russian?) that had so much wax the cases tended to stick to each other.
I suppose you could clean all the wax off and then relube with a dry lube, but is it really worth your time and effort to experiment with something that might end up screwing up your barrel? I wouldn't waste my time fooling with a couple of bricks of something that doesn't work for me. Just trade it off and consider any loss as a learning experience and buy a variety until you find one you like.

 

I understand where 500 is coming from. I have some old russian ammo that is pretty waxy. I can see how it would gum up a magazine, and nobody needs that. All the other ammo I have has a coating on the bullet only (a fine one at that) except the dreaded thunderbolts. They're pretty tacky too.
I'm just saving the messy stuff for my single shot Winny. The cleaner stuff goes in the semi's.
I'm with matchrifle on this one. No tumbling. Use a rag and live with it.

 

There's been a lot of debate on the issue of vibratory cleaners and loaded ammo. I have heard people make the powder -> dust comment before, but never anything more than hearsay.

Personally, I have noticed no difference cleaning lube of traditionally, versus using my tumbler and dry corn cob media, other than the tumbled ammo looks a *lot* better in the box. In other words, my experience pretty much mimics that of Bobshouse above.

 

Hey Bob, why do you tumble your rounds?

Agitation causes friction. Friction causes wear.
In my mind, matchrifle made a valid point.

I understand that folks polish their brass in a tumbler, but can't believe it's not a detriment to the powder in a loaded shell. Ammo powder has a shape for a reason. To change its shape doesn't sit well with me.

Not trying to start an arguement here, just trying to understand.

 

Maybe someone could do a test?
No tumble vs 1 hr, vs 2 hr, vs......

Would be an interesting experiment.

 

I tumble my loaded ammo to remove case lube easily.

I'd be up for doing the test, but most of my gear is getting packed up so I can PCS to Korea.

 

Mr. "o"

Osan or Kunsan?

Was at Osan for a year back in the 90's. Many good memories of sweating in a gas mask

Craig N.

 

I have noticed the CCI Blazers with the thick wax lube can be really tight to chamber when locking the bolt on a round in my CZ 452. They shoot just fine but some are really snug and take a bit of umphf to close the bolt on. Now when I load the mag I just give each one a quick feel and if I can feel a blob of extra wax I just give it a light rub to knock off the high spot and they chamber fine. I would not recommend removing the lube entirely.


Bo

 

osan, 303rd Intel. Should be fun, gas masks included!

 

Mr. "o"

Have a good time

I don't envy you though. The bomb dump was my home.

Only good thing was I got to go to Incirlik, Turkey and then to Andersen AFB, Guam after that.

I remember when I could do a "year" standing on my head. Seems like another lifetime ago.

Hijack over

Craig N.

 

After my Korea tour, I will be visiting Aviano Italy for 2 years.

While stationed here at Tinker, I've seen a few places... Singapore, Greece, Germany, Japan (mainland and Okinawa), Romania, Iceland, Ecuador and the United Arab Emirates, to name a few.

 

Mr. "o"

If you've never been to Italy, you are going to love it. Did a bunch of TDY's to Aviano and Camp Darby down by Pisa.

Recomendation, when you go to Aviano, take some warm clothes. The winters there can get bad.

I'm not even going to try and name the places I got to go. When I got to Incilik, Turkey they put me on a Nuclear Surity inspection team. Seemed like I was always TDY. When I got to Guam, I got put on another inspection team and again the same. The at Hill AFB, Utah I thought I'd get to relax, but wouldn't you know that Kosovo had to start a war. Spent my last 9 months base hopping around Europe shipping muntions into Aviano to do bombing runs, then the last two weeks in Kosovo at Pristina AB. That kind of sucked because it sure in hell wasn't secure yet. Oh the memories.

Craig N.

 

I will try and remember that one.


Back on the tumbling of ammo... how does powder/ammo get transported? I'm willing to bet a few hours in the back of a tractor trailer rolling down the road @70MPH is similar to spending awhile in the tumbler. Something to think about.

 

This is just a tid bit that I asked a gentleman from Hodgon about a couple of years ago.

I asked him if tumbling my centerfire reloads, after all done to clean the completed round, would be harmful.

He said he did not recomend it, because of the double base propellents used. He indicated that the Nitrocellouse is coated with a substance and in a tumbler it could be seperated, resulting in bad powder.

Don't know if this relates to the same powder used in rimfire, but I don't do it anymore with centerfire rounds.

Craig N.

 

Couldn't it seperate just the same in the back of a truck travelling state-state?