I would look at it this way. Ask yourself if you would make that shot with a .22 pellet rifle. A .22 pellet will kill squirrels, rabbits, and similar game. The .22lr CCI Quiet will hit alot harder than most .22 pellets under 1000fps. My opinion on kill range would be more to the point of accuracy. How well can you make the proper shot. Perhaps limit your shots to under 50 yards. That bullet is going to be dropping a good bit after that range.

Just my opinion. There will be other.

 

I would look at it this way. Ask yourself if you would make that shot with a .22 pellet rifle. A .22 pellet will kill squirrels, rabbits, and similar game. The .22lr CCI Quiet will hit alot harder than most .22 pellets under 1000fps. My opinion on kill range would be more to the point of accuracy. How well can you make the proper shot. Perhaps limit your shots to under 50 yards. That bullet is going to be dropping a good bit after that range.

Just my opinion. There will be other.

A typical crosman premier .22 pellet is 14 grains compared to 40 grains in the CCI Subsonic.

If you shoot the pellet at around the same velocity (710 fps) it is considered ethical for small game with careful shot placement by most airgun hunters.

I can only imagine the 40 grain bullet will carry a lot more energy to the target.

 

Best head shot I've had so far is is with my .22 mag and and 4 16 x40 scope a prairie dog at about 150 yards , might of just been dum luck but was still very proud considering I've only been shooting and hunting almost 2 years now . I haven't had the chance to take any small game with my 597 and 2.5 10 x 42 varmint scope yet but high velocity on paper suggest I can probably take a squirl's head a 50 yards haven't try the CCI quiets yet . On a second note I know prairie dogs are very tuff little guys and was wondering if the CCI quiets would hit hard enough the take it down humanly ?

 

I'm sure you can make the shot. You will be limited to the rounds capabilities.
Putting it on paper at 15 yards, then 25 followed by 35 then 50 yards. CCI states that the Quiet ammo is zeroed at 50 yards when 1.5 inches high at 25. Trial and error.
Have fun.

 

I have heard of humanly taking a large beaver with a .22 lr remington silent bullet headshot. Was told distance was something like 20 yards...

 

Last fall I shot a number of grouse with CCI Quiets and found that the Quiet-HP was condiderably more effective than the standard solids - which were marginal at best. Even though the Quiet-HP's are pretty spendy compared to the RN solids, IME they are the absolute minimum for small game.

 

I thought of getting the quiet hp but could only find the regular quiets ,ammo here in Canada is even harder to find then in the USA . We typically get what's left after American orders are filled so I shoot what I can get and if I can get something I like I buy has much has they let me Or budget will alloy and I'm no where near hoarding ammo cause I shoot a lot lately . A few months ago wasent so bad for some reason but before that you were lucky to find anything atleast in my region and now it starting to get hard to find again but enough of that there are already plenty of treads on .22 ammo shortage .

 

All I could find a couple weeks ago was the rn Quiet for pretty much the same scenario as you.
I took a bit off the nose with a file (couple 2 or 3 swipes) to make a flat spot to keep the drill bit from slipping sideways from the little starter hole with a punch, Sharp nail works. Drill the hole a 1/4" deep or so while holding the bullet to keep it from spinning in the case. Next 1/4 the bullet into 4ths with a razor blade and viola, segmented Quiet. My fingers wiped off the bullet lube so I re-lubed with SnoSeal which has bees wax in it and it works fine.
Last couple years I've taken 5 gray fox between 10-11 #(approx 5 kilo) with Eley hp subs broadside into the lungs @ 16yds and one flipped about 7', otherwise DRT. Mine let out one little squawk and down.
From my testing with the Quiet segment it should pass thru the fox if I don't clip a leg bone but it still may. Kinda ugly bullet but work great.
We only have 2" of snow @ 35º on the south shore of L Superior so they aren't hitting the bait much but know where it is and will be back when the 10º F arctic front hits Sat nite and 1/2' snow Sun.
Good luck whatever you do. :bthumb:

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About an inch and a half above and directly between the eyes will drop a fox. They gently lay down and close their eyes.

 

Great idea thx , does this affect the bullets accuracy ? I won't be shooting any fox's , illegal here , can only trap them but gonna be great on the other small game animals . I've seen this done in old western movies didn't think it actually worked I thought it was all for show .

 

I think the accuracy would be better by slicing factory hp where the hp would be 'consistently' in the center of the round. Slicing itself less a factor but thats a guess as this is my first stab at home grown segmented rounds and the only testing done at 11 yd the basement for bullet performance which I was happy with. Accuracy was 1/4"ctc @ 11 yd. Stellar accuracy wasn't my goal and minute of fox boiler room at <20yd acceptable.

segmented round entrance on the right, bullet pieces left​

 

One round of Quiet drilled thru an armadillo at about 10 paces.

Keep it within the appropriate range and it will do the job.

 

Inside 15 yards rabbits and squirrels have been no issue.

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As a teenager, I hunted many many rabbits with my Marlin 60 .22 rifle using shorts that had the same velocity as the CCI quiets, appx 700 fps. Between 20-40 yards they all went down humanely and I never had one run off or suffer. I would stay under 50 yards if it is a softer target like a rabbit or a squirrel. With tougher critters like prairie dogs, I would most likely not use such a round unless I could get a good head shot at no more than 30 yards. I may be conservative on this but I prefer to err on the side of caution. I remember cross hatching my round nose bulets for hunting as Al l shows in his picture, but I never thought to cut the tip off. They still seemed to open up nicely if I remember correctly.

 

As a teenager, I hunted many many rabbits with my Marlin 60 .22 rifle using shorts that had the same velocity as the CCI quiets, appx 700 fps.

CCI says this stuff has a muzzle velocity of 835 fps. The bullet weight is 45 grains, so it's their heaviest .22 LR offering.

Is there anything special about this ammo, or is it just subsonic with a fancy name?

 

I'll try to get a couple more boxes and take it down to the gravel pit to see how straight it fly's on paper . I got a bunch different of .22 lr ammo here and I'd like to check out what kind of damage they all do . Does anybody know how to make a descent home made ballistics gel ? I try'd a recipe I found online last summer but didn't turn out so great .

 

Me either thus the modeling clay. Get the clay temp up to 80º and penetration is a little less than half of gel. I just compared the same rounds and conditions for my general rule for clay/gel comparison. Simple math then. Can't see thru clay so the butcher knife comes into play but, the trauma to the clay does not rearrange itself after the shot like gel does. my 2¢ if you can't find a volunteer.

 

I shot a squirrel in the head with a Mini-mag HP and the heart was still beating when I went to pick it up. The shot was a fraction of an inch off.

I've killed many squirrels quickly with segmented Quiets. My only compliant is that they are not as accurate as other CCI loads in my rifle. This reduces the comfortable range.

In the end, it boils down to how well you can shoot.

 

I have shot plenty of small animals with a .177 pellet. Animals were DRT. Nuff said.

 

I think as long as you stay under 50yds, you should get good performance from the Quiet 22 rd. I have become quite partial to them. Even at 720 fps, I think they'll do a good job.

 

I really like them and bought several hundred rounds. At 50 yards I was getting 3.1 mils of drop. The group also opened up to over an inch. I think they are best used at point blank range.

 

I've shot 3 or 4 woodchucks in the head and none have taken more than one shot. If you really want to be sure, try to find some Quiet-22 segmented.

 

I've taken two ground hogs in my back yard from my second story bathroom window with Quiets (solids). Both were head shots from a Remington 581 at about 25 - 30 yards. They just dropped; hardly a quiver. Keep shots well within 50 yards and go for head shots for a humane kill.

Doug

 

My experience with all the super low velocity .22 ammo over the years has been poor. With precise placement, they have plenty of power for backyard pest control, but the issue is accuracy. I have never tried any such ammo that would give reliable squirrel head accuracy at 25 yards, or even closer. With that said, I have not tried this CCI offering, and it could be the exception. I have several precision air rifles in both .177 and .22, and even the 12 fpe .177 is absolutely deadly on squirrels, with good head shots. But with a quality air rifle and the right pellet, there is no question of acceptable accuracy.

 

So you guys are saying a heart/ lung shot won't kill a squirrel? They go into shock from massive blood loss and die within seconds. If this is not humane, you will never want to hunt big game, especially with a bow.

 

Frankly, that's exactly why I don't bow hunt. But to the point, I've shot a ton of squirrels, and in my youthful days, many were not head shots, due both to inadequate equipment and shooting skill. And yes, a shot in heart/lung area will certainly kill one. But my experience does not suggest it is always within seconds, and would often occur on the property of one of my neighbors, with some of whom I would prefer not to have the subsequent discussion. For general woods hunting, I see nothing wrong with taking such a shot, meat consideration aside, but I will not risk in with the back yard pest control mission.

 

Heart and lungs bleed out very fast. I don't bowhunt either for that reason, but a Deer takes far longer to die than any grass rat. I understand the vermin crawling to other property, but I can't imagine anywhere I would shoot a powder burner that close to anyone's yard?? My .17 HH is my current favorite fyi. I guess growing up on a farm pre PITA killing destructive ground and flying rats gave me a different perspective. I always felt bad on a flyaway, but a vitals shot they are dead, when they have no blood. Nothing close to the cruelty of nature when they get eaten alive, which IS a slow and painful way for them to go. Everyone has a different threshold, I guess.

 

I routinely hunt large fox squirrel with CCI Quiet in my Mark II pistol. Using iron sights I can assure you the they are not all head shots. The idea of instant death is nice but not practical. Try for it, but if you can't tolerate a slower death, you'll have to give up hunting. As said above, even a head shot doesn't guarantee instant death. A follow-up shot does wonders, btw.

 

I have killed squirrels with 29 grain CB Longs from a 5" bbl pistol. Only took one shot. Range was probably about 15 yds.

The CB Longs might be an acceptable substitute for the Quiets, especially if you did the hollow pointing and segmenting as described above. I want to try that myself. :t

One way that I like to test the effectiveness of ammo (never have used gel or clay) is to shoot water-filled soft drink cans (cheap and can still be recycled.) The most devastation I've seen was with .17 HMR. The CB's just make a nice clean hole through both sides of the can.

 

I keep a Savage MK-II loaded and sighted in for Quiets, just for backyard squirrels raiding my fruit trees. When I originally sighted it in, resting on sandbags, my groups were basically one ragged hole at 25 yards if all the rounds sound alike!
When I actually shoot a squirrel, I'm usually resting the rifle on a window sill or something. This results in perfect head shots, if all the rounds sound alike!
Unfortunately, these days my rounds all too often don't sound alike, and when I get a weak one, the shot usually results in a clean miss or a wounded squirrel that goes into hiding and requires a huge effort to locate and shoot again.
Inconsistent ammo is my biggest problem, especially with CCI.

 

what I mean by humane kill is just so it doesn't run off hide and die over a long period of time . Seconds or even a minute or two ain't so bad considering what they might go threw with a predator . I especially don't won't it dying in my anti-hunting neighbors yard. They once saw my dog with a fresh kill ( prairie dog) in is mouth and they freacked out and that's a under statement. Another time he was about to throw away about a garbage can full of damage apples from he's tree and so I ask for them for baiting deer , he looked at me like I was the devil lol . So head shots are a must at home to keep the peace and keep me out of trouble even if it's legal where I am . Plus I wanna be cooking a few of those the critters .

 

I've shot bear with perfect heart shots that ran 2-300 yards on pure adrenaline just like hopped up dope heads that just keep coming while being shot.