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Caliber Choice for 100-Yard Bolt Action Rifle

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#1 ·
Hey, actually I do have something to post.

Most of my shooting is paper punching from a bench but not in competition. My personal goal is 1 MOA at all distances out to 100 yards, the maximum at nearby ranges. I've got distances from 25 yards out to 75 yards covered in .22lr with a Remington 597 semi-auto (16" sporter barrel) and a left-handed Savage Mk II GL (21" sporter barrel in a Boyd's Pro Varmint stock). Both have the normal mods (lightened trigger pulls, etc.) and have been tested with a wide range of ammo.

I shot one 1 MOA group at 100 yards with the 597 about a year ago, and just missed two or three times, over a period of several years. The 597 averages about 1.2-1.3 MOA. The Mk II has never come close with any ammo, even the "match" stuff.

I also have an AR with a 16-inch 1-in-7" free floated barrel that shot another 1 MOA group at 100 yards over something less than a year. That was with .223 55gr FMJBT, and I'm playing around with 69gr OTM but haven't got near 1 MOA yet. Shooting that stuff gets expensive.

I don't want to shoot 1 MOA at 100 yards every group, but once a year or so gets frustrating. However, I don't want to set a lower goal just yet.

So, beside plugging away with the AR, I'm thinking about a new bolt action gun. I'm trying to decide between a heavy barrel .22lr or a heavy barrel .223. The only .22lrs I can find are the Savage BTVLSS and and the Anschutz 1416 L D HB, twice the price of the Savage. The only .223 I found is the Remington 700 SPS Varmint, which has a 1-in-12" twist which will limit ammo choices. The 700 costs more than the Savage but a lot less than the Anschutz. Maybe I don't need a heavy barrel .223? If a new gun works out, I'd sell the AR upper, since I've got more uppers than lowers anyway.

I know that it's my choice, but does anyone have any thoughts? Has anyone faced the same dilemma? If so, what did you do? Thanks.
 
#2 ·
YES, I have. I wanted a rifle or 100 yard offhand match. Some shoot 308, some shoot 22 rf. I bought a Savage model 25 T walking varmiter 223 . It will shoot ball into an inch or so @ 100. Good cheap 55grain PSP shoots under an inch and hand loads will do one holers.

22 rf @ 100 yards on a windy day is pointless.
David

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#4 ·
I'd go with the .223 and the Remington. Even though it might be nice to have a faster twist rate, there are a lot of factory loadings that will shoot very well in that barrel, and since its a Remington 700, over time you will have lots of stock and trigger options, even a new barrel when the time comes. :)
 
#7 ·
222 Rem and 22-250

For a different suggestion, I recommend 222 Remington. I have two rifles in 222 Remington. They are the most accurate 100 and 200 yard rifles I have ever fired. Lapua 222 brass is easy to find. 222 uses the same bullets and primers as 223. It is just more accurate. In fact it is the most accurate .224 diameter round ever.

As you may have noticed, I am selling one of my 222s. It is not the rifle you are looking for though. That is unless you are a varmint hunter, who wants a rifle that can also be used for BR competition.

Another great option is 22-250. 100-300 yard 1MOA or better is quite possible with a decent lefty in that cartridge. Here is a Tikka for sale right now:

http://www.hyattgunstore.com/tikka-t3-lite-stainless-left-hand-22-250-rifle-22.4-barrel.html
 
#9 ·
For a different suggestion, I recommend 222 Remington. I have two rifles in 222 Remington. They are the most accurate 100 and 200 yard rifles I have ever fired. Lapua 222 brass is easy to find. 222 uses the same bullets and primers as 223. It is just more accurate. In fact it is the most accurate .224 diameter round ever.

As you may have noticed, I am selling one of my 222s. It is not the rifle you are looking for though. That is unless you are a varmint hunter, who wants a rifle that can also be used for BR competition.

Another great option is 22-250. 100-300 yard 1MOA or better is quite possible with a decent lefty in that cartridge. Here is a Tikka for sale right now:

http://www.hyattgunstore.com/tikka-t3-lite-stainless-left-hand-22-250-rifle-22.4-barrel.html
This (.222). You have to reload, but you'll have to reload to get the best accuracy out of any caliber you choose (larger than .22 LR of course). I have four .222's. They have milder recoil and slightly less case volume/velocity than a .223, but somehow they hit a sweet spot for accuracy at 100 yards. At least for me.
 
#16 ·
204 Ruger For Sure



If you want to go that way, there is also my lefty Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 204 Ruger. It will shoot under an inch at 200 yards. Several ammunition manufacturers make 204 Ruger. So, you do not need to reload. However, it is easy to load 204 Ruger. Bullets, primers, brass and powder are all readily available if you do.



I am a bit surprised more shooters are not trying 204 Ruger. It is an excellent flat shooting small bore centerfire cartridge. It will readily take down varmints as big as coyotes at very long ranges. As biologicole says, it has little recoil, so you can shoot it all day without sore shoulder syndrome. It is a 222 Remington Magnum case necked down to take a 20 cal. bullet. That means you have plenty of powder to send a 32-45 grain bullet down range with serious varmint killing energy left when it gets there.

Here is a link to a page discussing different 20 cal. cartridges. 204 Ruger is the third one down the page after 20 Practical and 20 Tactical. I believe 204 Ruger is the only 20 that has commercially produced ammunition.

http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/20caliber/
 
#17 ·
I realize you were talking about buying a bolt action heavy barrel rifle to achieve your one inch groups at a hundred yards .Have you ever considered a Les Baer super varmint it has a 1 in 9 twist and would work with the ammo you're talking about. I shoot the federal 69 grain gold medal match ammo and consistently shoot half-inch groups and 100 yards .This rifle may be slightly more expensive but it sure is a pleasure to shoot!
 
#19 · (Edited)
Caliber Choice for 100-Yard Bolt Action Rifle?
I know that it's my choice, but does anyone have any thoughts?
Has anyone faced the same dilemma? If so, what did you do?

Yep, been there, spent months reading/researching.
I wanted a sub-moa guarantee from an out of the box rifle.
Surprisingly, very few manufacturers will make that guarantee
and the ones that do, want major money for their products.:eek:
There are a few, but all come with the same disclaimer:
Sub-moa results are guaranteed, but only when using match ammunition.
The AR custom shops will provide a 0.5 moa guarantee at 100 yards.
They tighten up the fit between the upper and lower, 2 stage trigger,
use a 1:8 twist in a heavy match barrel, 24 inches long.
Yes they do back up the guarantee. I ended up with a Stag Arms Model 6.
It will produce 0.5 moa at 200 yards with Fiocchi 223 77 gr Exacta.
Even produces 0.25 moa at 200 yards when I get a dead calm morning.:D
But I wanted something even better, so I started asking questions
of the local F-class shooters and of a gunsmith whose opinion I value.
I ended up having to decide between a Remington 700 action and
the Savage Target Action. The Savage action won out. I went with the 223
and ordered a Shilen 1:8 heavy 26 inch barrel. Installed it in an F-class stock
and ended up grinning like a kid, after sending 30 rounds of 40 grain factory
and had no problem producing sub-moa at 100 yards. With hand loads
I expect to produce consistent 1/4 moa at 200 yards. Optimistic, ain't I?:bthumb:
 
#20 ·
$$$$ can do it but the right rifle can be cheaper.



With anything other than a competition bench rifle, expecting to "produce consistent 1/4 moa at 200 yards," is more than optimistic. I have one rifle capable of regularly achieving sub 1/4 MOA at 100 yards. I have not shot it much at 200 yards so I cannot say what it would average at that distance. I have nearly $3000 invested in it and due to a fading interest in competition, I have it for sale in the RFC Trading post.

I have owned several rifles capable of 1/2 MOA at 200 yards, including a Ruger No. 1 Varmint in 220 Swift and the Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 204 Ruger pictured above. Each of those rifles needed my home made loads and a lot of load testing to dial in such accuracy.

I bought the Ruger No. 1 Varmint in 220 Swift used from Gunbroker.com for $1100 and the Hawkeye in 204 Ruger NIB from a company that specializes in left handed rifles for about $800. Neither rifle needed major customization, in fact I have done nothing to the Hawkeye, other than load testing.

I also have a very custom Ruger No. 1V in 222 Rem. that shoots under 1/2 MOA at 100 yards. So far, the best it has given is a .369" 5-shot 100 yard group with many sub 1/2" groups. I just had a fine piece of French Walnut carved into a stock for that rifle. I need to do a fair amount of finishing before I will show it here. It will be the jewel in my collection when it is done. It has been a long involved project. I already have over $3200 invested in it with a Jard trigger, Shilen barrel, the new stock and other upgrades.
 
#21 ·
1 MOA is not that hard, and of the calibers mentioned will work just fine. My old Remington 700 BDL 223 sporter will do it all day long with my hand loads. All I have done to it was float the barrel, pillar bed the action and adjust the trigger down to 2 1/2 lbs. The key is rolling your own. 223 was perfect for me because of where I live and the components are cheap and easy to come by and I don't have to worry about shooting out the barrel any time soon, like say a 22-250 or 220 Swift, you are shooting 223 now so you have a good start.
Good Luck and have Fun.

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#22 ·
Mljones1947;

If it isn't too windy where you are, I'll suggest a good CZ452 .22lr left hand rifle. The cost of the gun is reasonable compared to a centerfire. The ammunition cost is modest in comparison even when buying match ammo. And sometimes match ammo isn't necessary. If you go to the CZ/BRNO forum here on site, you'll find several people there who do get MOA 100 yard groups from their CZ rimfires. That being said, most of the guns do have mods. However, much of what's usually needed is low to very low cost & most folks find the mods easy enough to do themselves. There's a lot of very good advice and picture heavy threads giving the information needed.

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