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Buy Complete Rifle from KIDD or Build

1.8K views 22 replies 13 participants last post by  BrianK  
#1 · (Edited)
I had just ordered a Ruger 60th Anniversary and was looking into upgrading it when my wife decided she wanted it. I explained a few things I wanted to upgrade and she said why not just buy one that's already made. So without hesitation I started looking into it.

Im looking into the Kidd Supergrade and I'm torn between just ordering a complete rifle from KIDD or building basically the same thing from parts that I can order. The only difference is I would use a KRG Bravo Chassis instead of the KIDD provided Magpul Hunter X22.

Seems like I can save a decent amount building it myself and get the exact same rifle, minus the chassis. Any negatives to building it?

Are there any benefits to ordering a complete rifle from KIDD?

Edit - I should add I have a referral code that I can get 10% off of the rifle through KIDD
 
#3 ·
I've had one Kid Supergrade that I ordered in as a barreled action and dropped into the chassis of my choice.
Ordering from Kidd was as simple as going down the menu and making my choices, and when the thing came ... it was dang near perfect.
Dunno. It can expensive either way. I'd say let the choice fall to your preferences.
 
#4 · (Edited)
Ordering an assembled barreled action dodges the Pittman/Robertson tax. If you order a chassis and stock in the same order you pay the tax. I think I figured doing so saved me near $200.

Ordering one (or a barreled action) ready made is instant gratification after it comes in. But you might wait a few weeks for them to assemble it. KIDD shipped my chassis immediately. I took the time waiting for my BA to arrive by making certain I had all the other parts I needed in hand and the chassis ready to put the BA in. When the barreled action arrived it was fully assembled in a jiffy.

If you know what you want I would (and did) order one from them. I didn't want to have any issues with parts not playing well together. My KIDD order is my last .22 and I've been really happy with it. I can convert it from a heavy 12#+ bench rifle to a 6#+ field rifle in 5 minutes and it returns to zero. Don't know what magic dust KIDD sprinkled on it to get it to do that. Tight tolerances I'm guessing. Or I can mix and match the parts into anything in between and again, it's zeroed. The first time I did that I chased my tail over 1/4" zero. All I had to do was slam the bolt home a few times and it would have zeroed all on it's own. Live and learn.

Tip: If you do get a Supergrade be sure to also get their torque limiting driver.

edit: tip #2: If you're a veteran they give a veteran discount.

Assembly day


As a 12# rifle with a 20" .920(?) barrel.


As a field rifle with 16" ULW barrel, heavy parts laid out below.
 
#5 ·
I think I have settled on the following with a KRG Bravo - Anything I should change?

RECEIVER COLOR: Silver (expect to 2 week delay)
Barrel Length, Finish, and Muzzle Threading Option: 18" Fluted SS .920" Bead Blasted (+$45.00)
KIDD Tool Kit: No Thank You
trigger unit: two stage black with red curved trigger blade (+$370.50)
TRIGGER PULL WEIGHT SETTING: two stage 8oz/8oz=1lb (light target-plinking)
MAGAZINE RELEASE LEVER: No thank you
SPEED OR LONG MAGAZINE RELEASE LEVER: Speed/Long Lever (+$24.00)
Bolt color/finish: silver engraved KIDD (+$149.00)
BOLT HANDLE ASSEMBLY OPTION: SS Silver Ring (+$50.00)
Paramount Torque Limiting Screwdriver for the KIDD Supergrade Premium : Yes Please (+$27.50)
REAR TANG (added stability): "Yes" I want a Rear Tang (+$27.00)
Rear tang slope degree: 9, 19, 24, or 29 For the best slope match; list your stock name and brand if "Yes" on rear tang:: KRG Bravo 10/22
2nd MOA SCOPE BASE (interchangeable with installed Zero MOA base): No Thank You
10 Round Magazines: No Thank You
 
#11 ·
I think you’ll be very happy with that setup .
I had the 3/3 trigger and when the action cycled , I was getting a bump fire on occasion . I took it up to 7/7 oz and am going to work it down slowly and get it as light as I can without the double .

BTW, I could not feel the wall at 3/3 at first . With some practice I was able .

The hardest part about setting the trigger pull yourself is learning a method to be repeatable on both stages . It’s not easy to duplicate the weight of each stage on subsequent pulls. But I figured out a way that works for me .

I think you’ll be thrilled with the 8/8. It’s a beautiful trigger.
 
#7 ·
Good point on the parts. I never even checked into that when I bought mine.

I find the 8/8 to be as light as I ever want to go. My old trigger finger sometimes doesn't feel the wall and I push right through it. I hate it when I do that! Plus mine can be used in the field and the 3/3 is purely a target trigger. I can't imagine the 3/3. I'd never feel the wall.

One other thing that can make your life easy since you're getting the rear tang... either grind down an Allen wrench to fit under the scope for action removal, or get something like what's seen here. If you don't you'll need to remove the scope to take the action out of the chassis/stock.
 
#17 ·
Only one Kidd here, but it's a full Kidd barreled action & feel after a lot of figuring I made the right choice. With it's build sheet it has a lot better resale value if it should come to that. Shoots lights out.
Kidd offers so many options that I can't imagine what I'd want to substitute for a BA build, but I dang sure am not aware of all parts that are available.

Yeah, a lot of stocks out there that Kidd doesn't offer, so a complete gun may not be the option. But a barreled action build is/was about 10 days wait. Then slip it in the stock or chassis of your choice.

Just my thoughts on a Kidd, happy thoughts BTW.
 
#21 ·
I don't know yet. But in the limited shooting I did with the ULW barrel last year the barrel appeared to be just as good as the heavier barrel. There was a bigger difference in being able to shoot it better with the better stock and scope and frankly at my age I need all the help I can get. So after we warm up I intend to shoot it as a hybrid, better stock and scope and the ULW barrel, just to see what it'll really do. Will I ever shoot the ULW barrel in the 6# configuration very much? IDK. I wanted a lightweight field rifle... just because it's 'Merica and I could and I sold my FN Browning T-Bolt that I had for 50 years. Also because I tried to use the KIDD 12# config' for Appleseed and that just wasn't possible with my older body (aging sux!). The SG design is versatile, I could do it, so I did.

I wish I had this rifle 20 years ago. But the design probably didn't even exist back then. I know some of the peripheral parts didn't.

After I know more I'll post the comparisons. But first I want to check out the barrel with the better stock and scope. Then I'll check it in full blown 6# field configuration that's harder to shoot well and where I'll definitely be the weak link. I'm still amazed at the parts mixing and matching and returning to zero. Just amazing. I never expected that and Tony Kidd never mentioned that in any video I ever saw. He should, or maybe I just got lucky? Yeah, I'm never that lucky. I expected to be forced to visit the range to zero it after every configuration change. But that does not appear to be the case.

I'm rambling...
 
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#23 ·
It's a Luth-AR. I don't remember the model.