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Buckmark Medallion, will not release magazine

1.3K views 17 replies 6 participants last post by  Nedsled  
#1 ·
I just purchased a new Buckmark Medallion pistol. The magazine that was included with the pistol most of the time will not drop from the magazine well when I press the magazine release button on the left side of the pistol. Sometimes it will release if I use an incredibly strong thumb pressure on the release button.

I ordered a brand new Buckmark magazine from Brownell’s in Grinnell, Iowa because I wanted two magazines instead of one. The magazine from Brownell‘s works perfectly every time, and I don’t have to use excessive pressure when pushing the mag release button. I called Browning and explained the issue for the magazine that came with the pistol and they mailed me a replacement magazine. The replacement magazine works good with little pressure on the magazine release button.

I have compared all three magazines closely and the magazine that does not release looks exactly the same as the other two that release properly. I have shined a very bright flashlight into the magazine well to see if there’s any obstruction and I can’t see any.

When I insert the bad magazine into the magazine well and with the slide open if I press sufficiently hard downward on the top of the magazine, with the magazine release button pressed the magazine might drop out with great effort.

Does anyone know what the issue is and does anyone have any ideas how I can make the magazine drop easily when I press the mag release button?

Thanks very much, Bill
 
#2 ·
Go over every piece of the sticky mag with calipers and write down the measurements. Start at the bottom and work up. While they look identical there is going to be someting over sized or a small depression in the wrong place that is causing the mag to hang up in the mag well. It really doesnt take very much. Even a flare at the mag lips can cause an issue.
 
#4 ·
As Dean2 suggested I measured all areas of both the "good" magazine and the "problem" magazine with a caliper and both magazines were the same. I decided to remove the magazine spring from the problem magazine and when I inserted the magazine into the gun it released and dropped out with no problem or issue. I am now wondering if the upward magazine spring tension pushing the follower into the breach area of the gun is causing the magazine not to release and drop. As I mentioned in my previous post the magazine release button many times is impossible to press in.

I would like to somehow reduce the tension on the mag spring on the follower to see if that would allow the mag release button to press in and drop the but I don't think that is possible. I think I have determined the problem but don't know how to fix it!

Bill
 
#5 ·
In order, I would try the following, if it does indeed have something to do with the spring:

1) Swap the springs between mags and see if the problem follows the "bad" spring. If yes:
  • Fully load the mag and let it sit a bit and see if that calms down the spring
  • Order a new spring (cheap direct from Browning, cost + $8 shipping)
2) IF the problem does not follow the spring, then think: could it be the follower somehow affecting it, or, is there some other dimension messing things up?

Not seeing your gun or the parts involved, where MY mind immediately went was that the notch in the magazine that engages the release is undersized or burred, creating harder than normal force on the release. Not sure how your spring revelation would play into this though. I'm just having a hard time figuring out how mag spring tension would affect magazine release.

If you load the magazine with varying numbers of bullets (1-2 or 10) does the problem still persist?
 
#7 ·
If the spring removal solves the problem then my bet would be that the follower is what is hanging up somewhere. Excess spring pressure would push the mag out easier, not cause it to bind.

Taking the spring out also suggests the retention notch itseld is fine but the one thing the sping might be doing is pushing down hard enoug to bind the notch. Nedsled makes as a good suggestion to swap springs bewtwen mags, then swap followers.
 
#8 ·
Thanks everybody for your information and your help. The magazine that I was having trouble with I am slowly being able to release significantly easier. I have compared the bad magazine to two good ones as much as I can tell and it looks the same. I think if I use it enough, it will sooner or later loosen up and eject and drop more easily.

Bill
 
#9 ·
I have been using the problem magazine when shooting at the range thinking that maybe the issue of the magazine not releasing when I press the release button may work itself out or smooth out. It seems to work 75% of the time or so but there are times when the magazine still will not drop and I have to push the mag release button extremely hard with two thumbs.

I will summarize everything I have done to try to locate and correct the problem. I have completely removed the spring and follower on the problem magazine and it will drop and release very easily when I press the magazine release button. Next I completely swapped the spring and follower with a spring and follower from a good magazine, and the problem still exists meaning sometimes I have to press the magazine release button extremely hard with my two thumbs for the magazine to release. I have taken a calipers and I have measured and compared all areas of both magazines and they are both the same. I also measured the notch in the front side of the magazine that I believe engages into the magazine release button thinking that maybe the square hole or opening in the bad magazine may be a little bit different but the holes in the bad and good magazine appear to be exactly the same size. I could take both the good and the bad magazine to my local gunsmith, which I have used several times before, but I am trying to solve this myself.

I would appreciate any additional ideas on how to solve this problem.

Thanks, Bill
 
#10 ·
Next I completely swapped the spring and follower with a spring and follower from a good magazine, and the problem still exists

Thanks, Bill
If I am understanding this, then when you swapped a different follower and spring into the problematic magazine body, the problem persisted with that magazine body?

If so, then it appears you have some sort of problem with that magazine body, and there must be SOME dimensional problem with it SOMEWHERE.

Up to you whether you keep chasing measurements on it or just set it aside as a "last chance to save my family from zombie squirrels" contingency magazine and order a new one for regular use.
 
#11 ·
Thanks, Nedsledge that’s a great idea and I am almost ready to do that but I refuse to let the magazine win!!

The interesting thing is if I remove the follower and the spring from the magazine, it inserts easily and it drops and releases very easily too when I press the mag release button. I’m trying to convince myself to take it to my gunsmith, although he might charge me a small amount just to satisfy my curiosity!

thanks for your post
 
#12 ·
No matter which spring and follower you add, the result is the same. So, you have added weight and potentially downward pressure from the follower pressing up on the action. Take a 10x magnifying loop amd closely examine the notchs on the mag. Also, if you push up on the bottom of the mag, does it release easier. Doe it release easier with the action pulled open.

There has to be something that the spring pressure, or weight from the spring and follower, is causing to hang up just a bit. If you can't see what it is the smith or a new mag are the only real options.
 
#13 ·
I am thinking along the lines of "spring and follower pushing up against the feed lips deforming something there, bulging outwards and causing hang ups". I went and checked to see if there was a seem that could be slightly cracked open in that area but could not find any hint of a seem on my 2 mags.