I am thinking about buying a New Volquartsen pistol. Maybe the Black Mamba. I really like pistol scopes over red dots. I think the reason is that I have owned some poor quality red dots in the past. If I go the Red dot route what brand and model you guys recommend ? Can only afford to do this once. Ha ha. I will be used using this pistol for target and small game hunting. Will use a holster. target shooting out to 25 yards plus some cases. I am 62 and starting to to do more pistol shooting , don't need to walk as far to check your targets and 22LR ammo is a lot cheaper. Your thoughts on good accurate red dot for this pistol. Thanks. MD

I personally like the smaller reflex red dots over the tube models. I have had good luck with both vortex venom and Burris fast fire 3 models. I like the 3 MOA models for the smaller dot. I saw where you can get the vortex for $170 at PSA with a code. I don't own any, but the ultradot red dots seem to have a good reputation amongst the target shooting crowd.

https://gun.deals/product/vortex-venom-red-dot-3-moa-dot-17999-shipped-wcode-venom

 

I have a three Aimpoints, which I consider the be the best tube type, three Leupold DeltaPoint Pros, which are excellent reflex sights, but I also have five Holosuns which are very good quality and the best value IMO. My recommendation would be a Holosun with the green reticle. The green is much easier for my older eyes to pick up.

 

I've used the reflex sights on my Black Mamba but settles on a C-More because I can swap out the dot size from 3 - 16 MOA. I use 3 for Bullseye and a 12 for Steel Challenge ( Speed Shooting ).

I make my own holsters so It's easy for me to customize one for whichever dot sight I want to use.

Other than the C-More I like the Vortex Venom. You don't have to take the sight off to replace the battery like you do with so many of the reflex sight.

The dot on the C-More is very bright and stays round no matter what intensity I set it at. It's great in the bright sunlight of I can turn it down when shooting indoors.

 

I use a Holosun 507C on my Scorpion. I discovered that I really like the dot-within-a-circle reticule for my old eyes. Some of the older stock ones come with a picatinny mount included (the newer shipments don’t).

 

I use a Holosun 507C on my Scorpion. I discovered that I really like the dot-within-a-circle reticule for my old eyes. Some of the older stock ones come with a picatinny mount included (the newer shipments don't).

I had one come that way. I e-mailed Holosun and they sent me a mount for free. :bthumb:

 

That dot within a dot sounds like it might be for me. Good for target and hunting. At 62 with both knees replace ( 1 knee going to be replaced for a 2nd time this Oct ) won’t be hunting to much longer. I will see if I can look through one at brownells. I live in Iowa now and only live 2 hrs from them. Thanks every one for your feed back. Marty

 

Here is what I recommend: https://holosun.com/index/product/detail/id/138.html

For a dot within a circle, I highly suggest going with the 65 MOA circle. Otherwise things get a bit busy. The larger circle really makes finding the dot easy, or you can select the dot only if you like. Here is that sight mounted on my TacSol Pac-Lite upper.

 

I have a Leupold Delta Point Pro and love it.
I had a Vortex Venom. Good sight for the money.
My friend has the Trijicon RMR. It's also very nice.

My Leupold DPP

 

Highly recommend the C-More RTS2B - V5, it is my go to steel challenge red dot and have them on both my steel guns, a Black Mamba and KIDD 22 rifle.

Also run Burris FFIII, Vortex Venom, and Trijicon SRO on other guns and recommend than all as great options ad different price points.

 

Let me be the contrarian. I have found the Ultradots to be a good value and easy to use.

There are a couple of tube sights in the Trading Post right now (no relation to the sellers). I have one Ultradot II, which has the dot-in-circle option in the reticle. On the pic above is the v.1 model, picked up used here for about $125 a couple of years ago, which has just the dot with a variable dimmer.

I have middle-aged eyes and, for me, the aiming system is more important for accuracy than the brand of pistol or the brand/type of ammo. My groups with a red dot aiming system are 1/3 the size of my open-sight groups, whether I am shooting a revolver, semi-auto, off a rest, or off hand. I keep practicing with open sights because, for me, battery operated sights are a poor choice for self-defense. But for target shooting, a red dot is hard to beat.

I should note that I don't compete, so rapid dot acquisition on the firing line is not an issue for me. That said, I have tried a buddy's "heads up" holographic model like the ones above, and for me the tubes are easier. I spend a lot of time "hunting" for the projection in the head's up sights. I guess if I were in your shoes, I'd try to look through both styles and see what works best. All of the above is just IME, IMHO, so no disrespect to those above who have found what works for them.

 

PLUS ONE On the Ultradots. I have an Ultradot 25 on a Buckmark 7.25 Contour URX, another U25 on a Ruger MkIII Hunter, and an Ultradot 6 on a Bushmaster Carbon 15. I love them all. High quality Optics that last and last and last.

DrGunner

 

for me

Since the aluminum Volquartsens allegedly weigh around 34-36 ounces, I would not hesitate to put an Ultradot Matchdot II on it that will add 8-9 ounces. It has 6 reticles to choose from that you can use to shoot longer distances or use the quick change vertical knob to accomplish things no other brand can do. With patience used $150-200.

I have put a Burris Fastfire IV on my Mark III style Volquartsen but its already heavy at 52 ounces. Love this sight too with 4 reticles.

 

Yes. I am 62 and eyesight not that good. I will just be just plinking targets no competition shooting. Some hunting. I will look hard at the tube red dots. thanks. Marty

 

I have an Ultradot and Aimpoint 9000SC both in the box that were never used that I may mount on something eventually.

My favorite red dot is the Vortex Razor which I have 3 of.
I just love the looks, construction, clarity, features, and warranty better than anything else I have seen. :t
Bought all three of mine from Optics Planet when they had a 10% off sale.
They're a bit expensive but nowhere near a top Aimpoint.

 

I run Vortex Venoms on three different guns.
I have some other brands but I prefer the Vortex.
I've yet to have a dot wash out in bright sunlight and the Vortex service that I have experienced (with other Vortex products) has been exceptional.

 

for me

Once you get your choice in hand, be sure to test it for apparent parallax. None of these sights are supposed to have it and technically maybe they don't but I have owned two offenders that were off 2 1/2 and 4" at 25 yards. I think it is an aberration in the glass that causes it. As I got more into this issue I found extensive testing where even the most expensive dot scopes were in some cases worse than the $250 price point models. The factories tested, agreed and replaced them.

I just sent this to a question in a private message and thought it might be helpful here. This is the way I test my dot scopes for movement.

Yes, take the sight installed or not and put it on a table that looks out a door or window. Get it comfortable so you can look through it without touching the table or sight. Turn it on, point it at something about 25 yards away. Now, not touching anything, look through it and move your eye/head behind the sight. The red dot should stay in the same place throughout this exercise. If it moves a little way out on the edges that is OK but if it moves more than about 1/4-1/2" near the center that is the amount of error that will occur when shooting and you don't want it!

 

+1 for the Holosun 507c. I prefer the green more than the red reticle. I also prefer the V2 over the current X2.
No need to remove the sight in order to change the battery. PLUS I think the battery is supposed to last 10,000 hours. The 507c has a sleep feature too and wakes up when you pick it up. Still, I turn it off after each shooting session, which is where the larger, vertically stacked buttons of the V2 really shine.

 

Another Holosun fan here!

I recently dialed in a Holosun 407C GR-X2 open reflex sight (2moa dot only) on my Volquartsen LLV/bolt/kit equipped Mark II, and can't overstate how very pleased I am with it...

I'm not a competition shooter, and the muzzle brake seen installed in the image above gets removed and replaced with a suppressor, to then be reinstalled as a fancy thread protector after I'm done playin' around

 

Good looking pistol. I really like the green sights. It's the way to go. I have the GR Holosuns on both of my Black Mambas. Super nice shooting gun that really show the top notch quality that Volquartsen is known.

 

Cmore works best with my astigmatism, the dot is perfect some of my other red dots look like stars not sure why the core works so good with my eyes