Keep trying different ammo and you'll learn that not only does the POI change up and down, but left and right also. Trying to use a mill dot sight or some other multiple reticle sight just adds more confusion to the puzzle. You're better off picking one brand of ammo that shoots the best and sticking with it.

 

Not all ammo wil move left and right out of every gun. Well at least not enough to warrant a sight adjustment at 50 or 75. Some will be dead on left and right.. I use mill dots on all of my Scopes and it dont take much shooting to get the hang of it.. :bthumb:

 

Funny, when I saw the thread title I immediately thought of the Pentax Gameseeker I have on my CZ American WMR. It is truly and excellent scope for the price and probably for twice the price. I have the 4x12x40 that I got for about $70 at Sportsman's Guide. I also have one on my Savage 25 Classic .223. Out of the 30 or so scopes that I have, from Weavers to old American Redfields, Burris, etc. the Pentax scopes, Gameseeker and Pioneer, are some of the best investments I have made.
9 fingers

 

Hands down, the best rimfire reticle, including for WMR, is the Hawke Varmint SF series 1/2 Mil-Dot reticle... it does just what you are looking for... but it does it better than any other I know of... you can chart holdover/under and windage doping with precision. The Varmint SF series comes in 2.5-10X, 3-12X, 4-16X and 6-24X.

It is hard to see in this photo, but there are hash marks between the mildots, that allow fine tuning your aim and using a dedicated crosshair or dot regardless of the range or load.

 

Only so much you can do with shooting bulk .22lr
and you never get consistently 'zero'.
If you purchase expensive .22lr your accuracy increases
tremendously, but then is when I opt for centerfire ammo
and load my own for the gun it shoots, costs is then
about the same.
You just have to get to that happy medium.
[spend $700 on my 10/22...make her nice....shoot bulk ammo.....
and then wonder why you don't shoot thru the same hole over and over...]
jus' sayin'......

 

Actually we are talking about 22 magnum here. The thing is that I prefer to shoot squirrel with the fastest and most accurate 22 magnum such as 30 grain loads. Once sighted in, the 45 and 50 grain ammo is coyote ready at 50 yards using the pentax reticle and a lower bar. Most ammo was shooting within an inch of center. For a larger critter, the windage difference wouldn't be significant within the effective range of the magnum. That's why I like the pentax reticle so much for this application. I also like it better than mil dot because the bars are different lengths getting longer the farther down you go. This helps to judge windage. While sticking to one brand and type of ammo is ideal when shooting 22 long rifle, the very diverse loads available for the mag and the suitability of the mag for taking coyote with heavy loads make the pentax reticle a good choice. In other calibers like hmr and mach 2 the impact difference is not as great as it is for the range of 22 mag ammo.

 

Good post. I've torn up 2 Pentax Gameseekers with muzzleloaders. Well now the replacement will go on my Savage 93 BTVS 22 WMR, new from Dicks on clearance for $318, couldn't pass it up. It should take that "recoil". I favor Win super X 40gr HPs. With about everything else second. They have always been accurate and got the job done but I'll have tosee how they do on this new gun. The Pentax should take the "recoil". Best to all, BnB

 

What am i doing wrong, when i look up pentax reticle i see 600.00 scopes.

 

It looks like that scope is discontinued from most retailers inventory. Ebay has a few though.

 

I'll take this one, and just adapt it to the trajectory of whatever i'm using at the time--

http://www.rapidreticle.com/Main/ScopeItem.aspx?ID=6&grpID=6

 

I agree with SS Corote. Everyone who uses my Rapid Reticle says they are getting one, because they like it so much.

 

I'm shopping too

just picked up a CZ 455 WMR so I'm looking at scopes too. I looked at the Rapid Reticle, but one of the reviewers complained about the too small exit pupil giving him fits getting into the "cone".

But I Just found this tool from nikon:

http://www.nikonhunting.com/page/spot_on

Hit the launch button, give them some info, and your on. Buy any of their BDC scopes and pick you ammo. I just find this so cool. They have an amazing list of cartridges to choose from and you since they give the BC of the bullet, it will also work for handloaders who can match the BC and the muzzle velocity with their handloads.

Lots of WMR loads listed. You can print it for field carry or just memorize it with the power setting you will use.

Nikon has a winner with this one. Now I'm thinking hard on their Monarch 2-8 BDC Instead of Burris' Timberline because Burris does not list WMR cartridges on their smallish list.

 

just picked up a CZ 455 WMR so I'm looking at scopes too. I looked at the Rapid Reticle, but one of the reviewers complained about the too small exit pupil giving him fits getting into the "cone".

But I Just found this tool from nikon:

http://www.nikonhunting.com/page/spot_on

Hit the launch button, give them some info, and your on. Buy any of their BDC scopes and pick you ammo. I just find this so cool. They have an amazing list of cartridges to choose from and you since they give the BC of the bullet, it will also work for handloaders who can match the BC and the muzzle velocity with their handloads.

Lots of WMR loads listed. You can print it for field carry or just memorize it with the power setting you will use.

Nikon has a winner with this one. Now I'm thinking hard on their Monarch 2-8 BDC Instead of Burris' Timberline because Burris does not list WMR cartridges on their smallish list.

I've been using that for a year now and I like it.