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Belgium The New Century Rifle; Different and Unusual.

1.3K views 19 replies 8 participants last post by  A square 10  
#1 ·
I and 2 friends were at 2 gun shows yesterday at Shipshewana, Indiana. One of them was in the Homestead Building and the other in the Auction Barn. I had seen this rifle on/off over the past year but never really caught my attention till I started looking at Singe Shot 22 Rifles. When I saw the inside of the barrel and to me it looked like a smoothbore. I had asked 6 dealers 5 said smoothbore 1 said faint rifling. The photo sort of suggests faint rifling but it also could be considered smooth. The pistol grip/ wire frame, I told the 6 that the guy I bought it from had the wire part made. I also asked the 6 if they thought the stock or pistolgrip is original? 6 said it seemed to be original for the rifle. You can see in the photos there are 2 specific pieces of wood. I found there are no other examples of this type of a a pistol/rifle? The marks on the receiver and bolt are identical to others I have seen. I can't really date this but it has a Serial number under the barrel by the stock of 88837. Unique to say the least. I tried shooting 22 lr in it and well it stuck. It is missing the extractor that should slide under the bolt similar to my JGA Anschutz. I dropped the extractor from it into the slide area and it was the exact width. I just don't know how it would fit against the chamber face or under the bolt. The JGA one has a larger 2 piece head that fits in the chamber face and is longer. I shot 22 cb shorts in it today 10 of them at 10 yards ish. I even put 2 in the same hole. I can't wait to see what 22 bird shot does in it. I plan on taking to my gun smith to ask for help. He likes unicorns.
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#4 ·
Clean that rifle out with a good shot of wipe out bore cleaner using the instructions for wipe out to see if there is a lot of lead clogging the rifling. If you still cannot see any rifling take a cleaning rod with a tight patch or tight brush and see if that catches the rifling as you run it through the bore. While you are at it see if you can measure the twist by marking the cleaning rod and using a tape measure to see how long it takes to do a complete revolution. Should be a 16 inch twist for 22 LR. Not sure what it should be for 22 long or 22 short.
 
#5 ·
Yesterday, I ran 3 different style of brushes through the barrel over a period of 2 plus hours. I had put the barrel in a bit of a rug thing my Dad had for working on guns to not mark the barrel in a pipe vise, and I went at it from both ends. Spending time using 2 different cleaning solutions, I still found no rifling or very little or washed out or a smooth bore. I plan on visiting my gun smith to see what he says and to see about getting an extractor for it. I saw no spiral in my barrel at all. That was the one reason I bought it, considering it to be a smooth bore, and some of the gun dealers I spoke to thought it was a smooth bore. But like many others in here I had read about; their barrels had a similar issue being a neglected barrel that was pocky. After working on my barrel, I got it rather smooth looking inside the length. But there was one slightly deep pocky area. You know how it goes you get the barrel looking reasonable but it still has that "rough finish" look as if you were trying to remake a rusted sewer pipe into a sweet looking barrel.
 
#8 ·
Fourtenner
5 posts · Joined 2023

#8 · Sep 30, 2023
G'Day from Australia,
I have my late father-in-law's 20thCentury model 1936 .22 rifle that he bought as a boy in the late 1930's. It looks similar to the rifle shown here but has a very simple pistol grip and it cocks on closing. It is very light to carry in the field for rabbits. I usually shoot this little rifle with sub sonic .22LR or .22 Longs. They work fine for short range bunny hunting. It's nice to be able to use this rifle and remember my father-in-law when I do.
Cheers,

Steve
I had seen this in another section here. "It looked similar but had a very simple pistol grip and cocks on closing" However, mine does not cock on closing, but it might if it had an extractor? I am in the process of finding an extractor. We will see how it goes.
 
#11 ·
Good luck with finding an extractor, most simply fell out, never to be seen again. There was a thread here where some guy was trying to make one. I think it got locked down for disagreeable attitudes.
Extractors are not to make, getting one of us old curmudgeons to actually measure ours is a separate issue.
Please be aware that the bottom of the case is unsupported if the extractor is missing, it could rupture and that would be bad. Brass flecks in the face is never good.
Your rifle looks like a typical New Century except for the stock.
 
#12 ·
Thank you for your comments. The bicycle wire-type stock and pistol grip is what caught my attention. Then when I looked at the bore, I could see no rifling. So this suggested to me it was either really washed out for being overly shot out or the company did not rifle it for whatever reason? I am working on getting an extractor for it. Maybe it will or not fit I don't know. In my past experience, there was always some sort of rifling in the barrel that is pocky or shot out. Some spots were less visible than others but not 95-100% smooth down the entire barrel. I did shoot it with a 22 LR shell. On that day, I had to take it back to the house and tap it out with a cleaning rod. It was really tite and did not want to release. I had tapped it on the floor several times before the shell popped out. All that suggested to me that it was not chambered for a LR shell. The next day I shot 10 shots of CCI 22 shorts. I could finger nail pull them out easily. I did not pattern the 10 shots as I just wanted to see if it worked repeatably. In 2 shots, they were tearing plastic between each shot. The next test is to see if the 22 Shot will stick in the chamber or not. I have not shot any yet, and I want to see what sort of pattern it will hold. FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH TO ME; I am having a lot of fun with this little unicorn. Discovering what it will or not shoot and, what sort of pattern at what distance. It cost a whole lot less to shoot this than to shoot a larger caliber. It is just fun to mess with. Again thanks to you and all who have responded.
 
#16 ·
Thank you for the input. I had looked up some of the bike guns of 1890-1910 with the pistol grip and the wire frame. The man I bought the gun from said he either had or made the forged wire frame himself; his comment was, " It is a one of a kind". But it did strike me as a unique rifle/pistol combination? The pistol grip is unusual with the 2 pieces of wood so skillfully put together. The barrel is either shot out or maybe reamed but the inside is somewhat smooth and pocky. When I looked in the barrel at the gun show, it reminded me of a black power shotgun, where it is pocky but not bad. Which gave me the idea it was or has turned into a smoothbore. I have picked up some birdshot from Wal Mart but it in a flat of 20 cartridges. I am looking forward to doing a bit of practice with a 22 shot gun but it has been in the 30's here. I want it to warm up a bit. I have a line on some bird shot ammo from Ammo Seek in the 50 round boxes. Just fun enjoying a bit of play with a unique 22.