It happen in my brand new savage A17 in 17 wsm caliber ,just want to know if somebody else had similar problems, Thanks

 

I would be inclined to check the headspace.

 

It appears the base of the cartridge is not fully surrounded by the chamber when it fired, since the brass base spread open some distance upward from the rim. I am not familiar with A17 but see it is a semiauto. Firing out of battery (bolt not closed) or as BCHem stated, headspace issues are my guesses, in that order. Brand new, I'd contact Savage and they'll likely want it back for a fix before someone gets hurt. I would quit firing it.

 

Bolt not closing all the way?

 

You are not the only buyer having issues with an A17:
Savage A17 Pro Varmint | Rimfire Central Firearm Forum

 

I have like 20 cartridges , like 10 of them open in the back , not even one was fired properly

 

While I have seen what looks to be excessive head space in my BMag, i haven't had any separations. None of this occurs in my Franklin Armory F-17.

 

Does not look like an out of battery rupture.
What I see is a sheared head, likely caused by
weakened or cracked rim, occuring during the cupping and heading process. Other possibility,
indicated by the missing portion of rim in pic 3,
is an overcharged cartridge. I've had that happen also.
Not totally unexpected with Winchester rimfire cartridges.

 

I HAVE SOME OTHER PICS , I'LL POST LATER AND YOU WILL SEE , FOR ME LOOK LIKE RIFLE PROBLEMS, I CONTACTED SAVAGE AND I'M GOING TO SEND THE RIFLE BACK , ONLY FEW ROUNDS FIRE TROUGH

 

If there were too large a headspace,
bolt not fully closed,
that piece of brass would be domed.

The sides of the main brass aren't bulged at the rim.
No dome, cut/blown clean off at the rim/case bend.
That says weakened brass or overcharged to me.

I'll watch to see what Savage and Winchester report.

 

Those pictures ( 1st and 3rd) look to me like OLD improperly stored ammo with quite a bit of tarnishing and not like NEW. Possible corrosion problems that you can not see. How does the fire arm function using NEW ammunition?

 

A friend of mine have a Ruger 77/17 in 17 wsm caliber and I shoot few rounds of the same ammo box and everything was great , the shells came out in nice condition, planning to send my rifle to the Savage factory next Monday, I'll post any results of the inspection, I appreciate your comments, thanks

 

In an unusual turn of events, I am in complete agreement with jaia. That looks like an ammo problem and not a gun problem. Looking at your third picture, I'd say that someone at Winchester ammo saw that the case forming process made some junk. And rather than scrap those defective cases, they ran them through the forming die a second time. I've never seen a separated base blown INWARD above the rim. That was a defect caused by the forming equipment.

 

Good decision on your part to send it back to Savage; if you have any rounds left out of that box, I would ask Savage if they want the rounds to test as well.

 

Can you share the ammunition LOT# for everyone here?

 

Absolutely I'll, the lote number and the rest of the exploded shells , thanks for the interest

 

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Are those all fired cartridges?

 

Yes

 

I am still leaning to it being a headspace issue or it is firing out of battery. If the case is fully supported when it is fired, there should be no way for it to bulge in front of the rim.

 

Let see what savage said , they are supposed to dealing with , I'll be posting any result, hopefully soon, thanks

 

Has anyone seen evidence of split brass in the 17 WSM. at the neck that has been pretty common in the 17 HMR. caliber?

 

I have never had a problem with the ammo. I thought I did but it was my rifle causing misfires.

 

Has anyone seen evidence of split brass in the 17 WSM. at the neck that has been pretty common in the 17 HMR. caliber?

Has anyone seen evidence of split brass in the 17 WSM. at the neck that has been pretty common in the 17 HMR. caliber?

 

Do you know the difference between cartridges?? It is veryyy clear that is an 17 wsm

 

If you are referring to me, that would be a yes and also if you referring to me, I was definitely not trying to hijack your post. I was just simply asking if anyone, possibly you had seen any evidence of splits in the necks of their 17 WSM ammo. I have had some 17 HMR. ammo that ruptured the brass around the rim very similar to what was in the photos that also had a split at the necks.

 

Edit: I re-read and you said "Brand New" If you haven't shot it much at all (dirty) get a hold of savage. Have a good day!

The Savage A17's, 22Mag, 17HMR and your 17WSM use "Delay Blowback" action versus 22lr's which use blowback.

Possibly? This delay is not functioning as well as it should.

I'd make sure the mechanism (small piece that protrudes on top of bolt upwards when charging handle is inserted is cleaned as recommended in your manual) and the receiver cleaned especially where that protruding piece seats into (according to your manuals instructions).

 

check out who tee whos vid. of his ruger 77 17WSM blowing up! just posted couple days ago. He was lucky, no eye protection! bet hes wearing it next time?

 

There is a thread here on that video.
17 WSM video by wo tee hoo rifle burst

 

OMG, JUST WAITING NEWS FROM SAVAGE , I CALL THEM AND TOLD ME JULY 7 THEY R GOING TO LET ME KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG, THE BIG MANUFACTURERS ARE ONLY WORRIED ABOUT MONEY, SO SAD 😞

 

Got some important news for you; it's always about the money. Its what makes the world go around.

 

Granted this is 22 magnum, but total separation from firing out of battery.
Some ended up in my hand, never found most of it.