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Anybody have personal experience with the Athlon ARGOS BTR GEN2 10-40×56 BLR SFP MOA

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#1 · (Edited)
I'm considering an Athlon ARGOS BTR GEN2 10-40×56 BLR SFP MOA for my CZ 457 AT-ONE but probably can't make the purchase until after the first of the year. Mt intentions are to join in on some fun shooting matches that engage paper at 50 yards and other fun targets out to 100 yards. I first mounted a Burris XTR II in 5x25x56 and didn't like the crosshair center. I currently have an ARKEN EP5 in 5x25x56 FFP with floating dot in the center of the reticle. I have quickly decided that FFP is not for me when shooting beyond 50 yards. Next on my list is the topic of this thread as I like the looks of the reticle and the great reviews of most all things Athlon. I may even change from MOA to MIL with this scope. It would be my first MIL scope so there would be that learning curve. Personal experience recommendations are most welcome.
 
#2 ·
Yes, I have experience with said scope.

I bought 1 here and the same week bought another on Amazon.

The one I got here is usable to about 32-34x or so in regular light or even a tad overcast. Glass is clear to that magnification, after that is gets a bit dark and fuzzy for my eye. The adjusters are fine and work well and I love the reticle. I shoot bench at 50/100. I have it on my Kidd rifle.

The one I got from Amazon was trash. Really, really bad. Bad glass, bad adjustments, not even usable. I had it at the range and several of my buddies checked it out and all had the same experience.

So my opinion, buy from someplace that you can return very easily. This is a pure china scope and you are rolling the dice IMO. You cannot beat the price point and the reticle is very nice, but it is a roll of the dice.

No, I am not a glass snob, but I do have some decent glass. This Argos is not going to compete with even an Athlon Midas or a Vortex Venom or any Nikon I have ever owned. It is close to a Burris Fullfield IV though in glass quality.
 
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Yes, I have experience with said scope.

I bought 1 here and the same week bought another on Amazon.

The one I got here is usable to about 32-34x or so in regular light or even a tad overcast. Glass is clear to that magnification, after that is gets a bit dark and fuzzy for my eye. The adjusters are fine and work well and I love the reticle. I shoot bench at 50/100. I have it on my Kidd rifle.

The one I got from Amazon was trash. Really, really bad. Bad glass, bad adjustments, not even usable. I had it at the range and several of my buddies checked it out and all had the same experience.

So my opinion, buy from someplace that you can return very easily. This is a pure china scope and you are rolling the dice IMO. You cannot beat the price point and the reticle is very nice, but it is a roll of the dice.

No, I am not a glass snob, but I do have some decent glass. This Argos is not going to compete with even an Athlon Midas or a Vortex Venom or any Nikon I have ever owned. It is close to a Burris Fullfield IV though in glass quality.
I agree with what Davcruz has said about this scope. It is basically useless beyond 32X. The glass is serviceable but hardly top notch. I think for anything inside 200 yards it works fine and is well worth the price when you can get it on sale.
Just gave the Argos Gen2 10-40x56mm a go yesterday on my B14Rs and agree 100% with all said above.. Was 100% overcast and I agree the sight picture became became not unusable at 36x and above but it was much more usable at below 36x.
Bottom line I am finding is if you want to go above 25x as in 30x or above and you expect a sight picture a bright as at 24x-25x better expect to pay considerably more than a $300-$400 price point.
I did a SbS of my Swift Premiere 6-24x50 at 24x and my Athlon Argos BTR Gen2 10-40x56 at 24x and IMO the Swift was notably brighter and they are about the same price now, but when I bought my Swift it was well under $300.
I felt then and still do now if the swift could be had for at or under $300 it was the best scope of its kind you could buy.
I will not be parting with mine.

I own almost 30 rifle scopes have 24 currently on rifles and even two on dedicated turkey shotguns. I have owned scopes costing from $55 to $1800 and my most expensive scope I currently own is a Trijicon Credo HDX and can see exactly why it sold for nearly $1k superb glass shockingly bright sight picture excellent illumination system.

My opinion of my new Athlon Argos BTR Gen 10-40x56mm is fine for 22lr rifle bench work and shooting cards at 50 yards and targets to100 yards and under it will work, but if for anything else there are better choices.
 
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For being precise...Second Focal Plane works better for me. The reticle in this scope is very good, it gives you a nice aiming point that you can be precise with. I have no problem seeing or holding on a 22 LR bullet hole at 100 yds. The scope is plenty bright up to 36X. It is a little darker at 40x but still usable for me. For the money...it will be very hard to beat it. Going with MOA will give you a finer adjustment for Point of Impact when sighting in. This scope is one click equals .125 inch.....1/8 inch. Most Mil scopes are one click equals .1 Mil... (.36 inch) or 1 cm.

Did I mention the reticle is very nice. (y)

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OP, if you have up to $1K to spend and can live with 40 yard minimum focus, I suggest the Sightron SIII 8-32x56 with the target dot reticle. It is a VERY nice BR scope. Currently on sale for less that $1K. I have one on my B14R and honestly love it. SIII Long Range8-32x56

Literally no comparison to the Athlon you asked about.
 
#14 ·
I have purchased a total of 3 of the 10-40x56 Argos scopes over the last year. I currently run 2 of them . One on a CZ 457 VPC and one on a CZ 457 Custom MTR. ( the other is NIB waiting for a new project) I'll agree with most of what is written above. As others have said, you start to lose brightness (and the eyebox tightens) beyond mid 30X range but it's a $350 ish scope and not a Sightron. IMHO, it's a VG quality scope with a uncluttered SFP retical for shooting at tiny targets at 50-100 yds. The retical and dot is FINE. Fine enough to shoot 2mm lolly pop sticks with the scope with regularity at 50 yds without blotting them out. It is NOT a great recital for "run and gun" type shooting though.
p.s. One minor quirk with this model. this is a 16.5" LONG scope but the tube section between the rear bell and turret is only 1.5" or so. Given that limited space (as compared to other scopes) It can make mounting/ adjusting the scope a bit challenging.
 

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Well, time has passed and I made some purchases. I ended up with 2 Athlon Argos 10x40x56 and two Sightron SIII 8x32x56 with MOA2 reticle. I sent one Sightron to their custom shop for .125 turret swap and will send the other one soon. The Athlon is a great value but the glass of the Sightron is far superior.
 
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Got one earlier in the year for 100m shooting, working fine so far. Bright enough at 36x, a little darker at 40x, I think the target colour makes a difference. I also think you need to spend a bit of time setting up the focus, both parallax and for your eye.

Yes, as others have said, its big.
 
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Last year I bought the 10-40 Argos to use for .22 RF competition at 50 & 100 yards. After one trip to the range I returned it for a refund. My suggestion is that if you buy one of these scopes make sure that the vendor has a good return policy. I also spoke with a dealer who checks these scopes before offering them to his customers and says he returns almost half of this particular model. You can get away with poor quality glass at lower magnification but at 40x, not so much.
 
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This is an awfully late response, but I can assure you that you will like this scope, but you might want to consider the Gen 2 BTR 8-34x56mm model instead. It doesn't have quite the magnification as the one you mention, but the 8-34x model is a First Focal Plane scope and it doesn't seem to lose the crystal clarity at high magnifications (over 24x) that the 10-40x does. And the 8-34x also sports an illuminated reticle, if you need that feature at low light levels. the 10-40x is a great scope, no doubt about it. But I do think the 8-34x would serve you and your CZ 457 At-One better. By the way, I have an identical rig with a Timney trigger. I use the factory barrel since my gun is plenty accurate as it is and I have no need for an aftermarket barrel. I routinely shoot 1/4" groups at 50 meters (that's 55 yards) using SK Standard Plus ammo.