Vudoo, or you might even take a look at Rim-X. They are both pretty nice.

 

My two cents....CZ, Voodoo then Bergara. I only own CZs...so take that with grain of salt. Seems like voodoo is the most accurate...but also have the most problems/finicky.

 

Budget not a concern? Then Voodoo or RimX. Between a Bergara and CZ I bought a Bergara for its R700 compatibility.

 

Hmmm, I wish I knew the answer. I have read the stories of Vudoos with issues, but I have never seen one one person that had any. I know the guys there are tops in service if you run into a problem

I actually think you can get very close with a CZ, Lilja, Timney trigger set up. But you are limited to the Timney (which is very good) as an aftermarket trigger where the Vudoo gives you just a huge choice in triggers.

The Bergara will get you all the same aftermarket availabilities as the Vudoo, but the bolt wont be a 60 degree throw ( if that matters) and it wont be as smooth But I believe the Bergara will shoot with anything.

I too am intrigued by rimX. All that said, I hit the barrel lottery on my CZ and it shoots as well as anything at 50/100 yards. Beyond 100 is where the Vudoos own me.

 

Spend your money on great glass if you haven't already and lot test match grade ammo.

I have a bone stock B14r and it is a fantastic shooting rifle with the good stuff. I've shot CZ MTRs with nothing but a trigger spring and it too is a fantastic rifle.

Practice, know your dope and learn to read the wind.

If you can't hit your target and shoot tiny groups with what you have, a Vudoo probably isn't going to fix your problem.

If you are shooting ultra competitively and keep getting beat by an X or 2, or are shooting ultra competitively regularly past 100 and are narrowly getting beat and your budget allows, buy a Vudoo and make me jealous.

I had one built in my cart a few times and never sent the request. I decided that until I am absolutely sure that my rifle is my limiting factor, I am not going to put nice motorcycle money into a Vudoo/Nightforce combo.

 

I too am looking to make the right purchase and Voodoo is on my mind. Good morning from a new guy... Ive been a member for a month or so. Like many , I'm looking to purchase a gun that will help me learn and grow / improve / refine my shooting skills. In short I hunt/guide and have spent the last 3 winters practicing off hand shooting in the nastiest conditions here in the northeast. Goal is to refine my off hand skills.

Here in the mountains we snow track on large tracks of land and have still hunter scenarios when we get our opportunities. Ive been using .22LR both on the bench and a variety of shooting positions ( sling OH , kneeling , prone , tree rests both left & right side , moving target OH ) All this work is done to improve my skills. But it starts with the bench and gun to see how accurate the gun/loads/glass/rest and lastly me the shooter really can be. When I was taught to reload centerfires I was told 40 years ago it 50% the shooter and the rest is the consistency of the gun/loads/glass.

Now Im being lured into the world of precision .22LR. Fun journey and Im intrigued by all the things Rimfire shooters know and discuss. Much is discussed about the guns & ammo. I have not found much about the skills of the shooter and the fine details or accurate shooting. Im refining my skills with a bolt because it has to be instant and natural to work the bolt as quickly as possible and get back on target. Whitetails , brown bears and wounded animals don't wait for hunter or guide to get ready for the followup. So working the bolt as quickly as possible and getting back on target acquisition is VERY important. Here is a question for you all.... Given I use M70 , Kimber 84 actions on my HP rifles. Which bolt action .22LR has the most precision that comes with a traditional hunting style stock ? I don't want to spend my time learning a pistol grip stock , replacing stocks , rebarreling. Sorting through the right quality ammo , breaking in the gun and setting it up with the same optics I use while hunting all makes sense to me. But I want to buy a bolt action .22 rifle ( stock , action & barrel ) that is capable of doing 1/2" groups at 100 after doing all the work to break it in , add glass and figure out the right ammo.

Suggestions ?

 

I don't have an answer to your question of "which is best?" That said, I think you can be guided, in general by the adage, "you get what you pay for." It sounds like you are coming at this in a practical sense, like a hunter, rather than from a technical set of match requirements. If that's the case, and I were in your shoes and could only chose once, I'd get an Anschutz 1710/1712 in .22 lr. I think that's the balance of accuracy, utility, and product support you are looking for. I have Vudoos too, which are great off the bench, but for your purposes I don't think the added theoretical 1/16 inch additional accuracy at 50 yards is worth having a bespoke rifle built for you.

Still, when you get over a kilobuck in price you start to have choices. And while more expensive is usually higher quality, there are plenty of folks here who have had contrary experiences.

Also, as you will find, in .22 land, you can spend a lot on a rifle and get below average results if you don't feed it the good stuff. So keep in mind that your hunt for a good rifle is also a hunt for good ammunition. It was ever thus.

Other good choices that I have actually shot:
Lithgow 101. Takes CZ magazines, and shhots with my Annies.
Cooper. Fancy and expensive.

Edit: Finally, it occurs to me to mention that to consistently shoot a . 22 at a half inch or less at 100 yards, you have to be rich (to buy high quality ammo) and be among the best shots in the world. I have committed random acts of accuracy at that distance with a .22 but the notion of my shooting to that standard consistenly is comedy at best, tragedy at worst. You are probably a better shot than I am (most are), but your ammo and the wind are going to be the limiting factors here, even with the "best" rifle on the planet.

 

Thank you both. Ive been playing with my old Rem 550-1 and BOB ammo. It does 2.5" groups @100. The Howa M1100 is the same even worse with the same crap BOB. So I got a some diff. packs of Eley and at 50y they both can do .75 - 1.0 The Howa did get a couple .5 groups @ 50y and is 1.25 @ 100y. Im not a good bench shooter but I get .5 to .75 groups @ 100y with my centerfire rifles. I just want to know what the gun will do so I have a baseline to see if Im improving both from bench and off hand/moving targets. This whole process

Thank you so much. That is the in-depth answer to the perils of stepping into .22 land that I was hoping for. You statements line up with most of what Ive been trying to learn.. I have been doing study on UTube and watching this forum. It became alluring to see some of the information about how accurate these .22 rifles can be. Most eastern hunters spend their time being in the woods to get opportunity. In Alaska and out west its a combination of shooting accuracy and time/effort. I have spent months in Alaska where we qualify the clients. When I come home here to the northeast big woods the most successful whitetail mountain hunters dont have a clue about any of the precision/accuracy components. Thus many of the very best hunters I hunt and associate with wait for the classic 80 yard north country shot to unveil. And most of them consistently miss or pass opportunities that are otherwise easy shots. I was taught to reload by a world class shooter who help the world record one hole @ 300 yards. He always said its 50% gun and 50% shooter. Learning how to shoot off hand accurately is a chore and very challenging. I grew up duck and pheasant hunting and am gifted with great eyesight and coordination. Yet at 63 those gifts are fading. After being exposed to so many trigger puller clients Ive dedicated myself to learn more and develop some training exercises for my friends who revere my learned skills on how to make shots they all pass on. Most of my friends and son are interested in learning and Im dedicated to help them and pass on as much as I can. For me it made sense to start with the practice gun format of .22LR. Im going to order an Anschutz. It will help me understand the limits of off hand shooting compared to the ability of the ammo / gun & glass... If anyone has the need to develop split second off hand practice drills that make a difference in quick acquisition and shooting moving targets these are the things Ive found out help greatly.

• A couple rounds of Sporting clays , skeet and trap then right after pick up the practice .22 and spend a half hour at various yardages shooting moving targets. Tires with cardboard/paper centers work well.
• Find a farmer who has too many barn pigeons
• Use the same action and weight practice gun as your hunting with.
• Get time on paper with bag & rest to see how accurate your .22 can be , then in the same session at the range go off hand in a variety of positions at paper. Keep all your targets to compare how you're improving. Hitting an 8" or 12" moving circle at 100y is sometimes raiser that a still target.
• Learn .22 gun science and ballistics. You can't really know how much your honing your off hand rifle skills if you dont know what these special little guns will do.
• Watch some videos of the guys in the big leather jackets who strictly shoot off hand. Muscle fatigue , shooting stance are key. Those guys have several techniques to discipline them selves to shoot incredible groups standing up with no rest.

Tx for your help flangster , gester & grantmac
You have given me great parameters to set base line standards
ADK
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No rifle -- whatever the make -- will outshoot the ammo it's given. In other words, don't expect great things from a more expensive rifle if using inexpensive ammos.

 

No rifle -- whatever the make -- will outshoot the ammo it's given. In other words, don't expect great things from a more expensive rifle if using inexpensive ammos.

Also, don’t expect much from a 500-1000 dollar rifle with a 100 dollar scope.

Spend more on the scope than the rifle like the rest of the world does.

 

If your budget allows it...Vudoo

I have a VPC as well and it was a real shooter with the factory barrel. I just installed a Lilja and am testing g it atm. It shows promise of .2s at 50 and we'll under moa out to 200.

 

1/2moa at 100 isn't happening with rimfire unless it's an unlimited bench rifle in perfect conditions with lot sorted premium ammo.
Good news is you don't need that for offhand practice.

 

The folks over on the RFC Anschutz forum can answer a lot of the questions you might have. They are a great bunch of folks. I have bought most of mine used off forum members here. Personally, I really like the 1712, which is the model designed for silhouette shooting. Looks like this with a raised cheek comb:

Needless to say, everyone has his own preference. I do have CZ's that will shoot with it, but they have been heavily modified (aftermarket barrels, bedded stocks, replaced triggers etc.).

I have a 1710 that looks like this:

It's an older model that I got a good deal on because the stock was cracked at the wrist. Here's a set of 50yard targets BEFORE I fixed the stock:

 

Thank you Flagster , I love the stock on your 1710. Its checkered almost like my 1955 Mdl.70 featherweight. But the 1712 has the raised comb. Notice the old weaver see through mounts. They allow us to shoot close range in an instant. Usually don't even use the irons. My son shot his ADK buck this year at 15y. while backtracking a doe in the peek rut. Snow is everything to us with 1-2 deer per/sq. mile... So when its a blizzard we hunt and with the distance we usually catch up to them at its close and quick draw much of the time. Those days only account for 10% of our shots but we have to go where the deer tracks lead us and much of the time the snow is hanging on every spruce and balsam getting all over the guns. Without the see through mounts your crippled. Everything else is as you would expect on the guns except we use 2.8x8 vx3. Leupolds. The one on my M70 has a new one this last year with the CDS-ZL. beautiful innovation ! Can dial up yardage with no math and your on the mark in 2 seconds. Don't need it usually but Ive threaded the needle at 350 & 400

And yes Lesptr your SO right about the glass being more important.

I have another question for you guys.... Ive looked at the ballistics data for .22LR and in picking a glass I got a Burris 6x20x50mm. Is there special turret scopes you guys use for .22LR because of the severe bullet drop ? Do you find adjustments for POI are adjusted from temp , humidity and the like. Theres a big diff. up high in the Rockies above 9000' with the dry air / thinner air compared to 2000' and humid wet weather here. . For me most severe diff is uphill and downhill that effects the trajectory at any elevation with distances over 400y for the load / bullet I use for the M70. Just wondering how often you guys have to diddle with the turrets ?

I really appreciate your help guys...
ADK