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A Different Kind of Tactical Look - 93R17

4.9K views 49 replies 17 participants last post by  hoytcanon  
#1 ·
I thought that folks might enjoy a different kind of Tactical look for the 93R17. Most Tacticals are stock TR's or Boyd's Tacticool versions... we tried something a little different...

You Like?????

These guns (we have two; son and I) began life as the standard FVSS models. Here is what we did;

- DIY Trigger jobs
- Savage Gunsmithing 1/8" stainless bottom metal
- Savage stainless inlet trigger guard and long action bolts
- Barrels cut to 18" / crowned / threaded to 1/2" X 28 TPI
- Ross Schuler muzzle brakes mounted and timed
- Boyd's SS Evolution stocks in black textured finish
- Bolt handles ground and threaded to 5/16" X 24 TPI
- Liberty Tactical Bolt knobs
- Dlask Picatinny half-rail mounted with three 1" (#10 X 32) stainless screws (black high-shear epoxy)
- Leapers UTG Bipods (9-13") and New Gen Tactical foregrip
- BSA Contender 6-24X40mm mildot scope
- Durasight Z2 QD rings
- Still in transit (DIP Savage one-piece scope base)
- :bthumb: :D :AR15firin

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#3 ·
You did a great job on your rifle. It looks perfect.
It has a nice tactical look without being overdone. It's great when people modify their own rifles, especially when thy come out as nice as yours did.

I really like the flaired muzzle brake and the bolt handle looks fantastic.

Kutos to you for a job well done :bthumb:

You need to post some targets. I'm betting she will be a great shooter. Sometimes shortening the barrel makes it stiffer and adding weight to the muzzle helps the harmonics out some also.

It looks like you polished the barreled action also, a real eye catcher.

My Best, John K
 
#6 · (Edited)
I'm betting it just has a matt finish where the barrel is more highly polished. Matt finished S/S always ends up looking that way, that's why the trigger guard looks so much different.
I like the contrast.

John K
 
#8 ·
I'll bet the trigger guard would polish up pretty darn nice, it would just take some time. Good project for a rainy Saturday ;)

My Best, John K
 
#11 ·
Vertical Foregrip...



Have you ever tried a vertical grip? It always amazes me how much the vertical foregrip solidifies and stabilzes the gun for off-hand shooting... the difference is considerable... even on a stock that shoots as nicely off hand as the SS EVO... we will be hunting with these guns also, so every asset to stability is a real bonus... I know the look is not necessarily for everyone... but the functionality out-weighs the asthetics... for us anyway. We debated long and hard about dressing the EVO's... eventually decided to do both... these tactical looks and a more streamlined dressy version.... those pics are a few days away... but coming soon! :bthumb:
 
#13 ·
Bipod mount



The bipod and foregrip are mounted to a Dlask picatinny half-rail.... any picatinny rail will do... I used three 1" (#10 X32) stainless screws into predrilled holes... seated the rail in black high-shear (golf shaft) epoxy... put a dab on each screw... wiped away the excess epoxy as it seated... it is a permanent mount... the stock will come apart before the rail seperates! :bthumb:
 
#15 ·
How do you like your BSA Contender scope? I put the same one on my Savage and its a very nice piece and am very happy with it so far. I put a sweet 22 on my ruger 10/22 and after shooting it the 1st time a few weeks ago I took the sweet 22 right off. I would buy another contender series in a minute but never anything cheaper that BSA has to offer. Good looking rifle BTW :bthumb:
 
#17 ·
Contender...



We really like the BSA Contender scopes... prefer the mil-dot version... we use the additional aiming points for "hold-over/under." These scopes are bright, clear, highly adjustable and easy to set-up... we are very happy with them :)bthumb:) and would recommend them to others... but they appear to be discontinued... :(
 
#20 ·
Which Stock???



You can go with either the Tacticool or the EVO... having tried both, I would say Tacticool for a long barrel or with added weight toward the muzzle (supressor, heavy front sights, heavy flash hiders etc...), but for standard or shorter barrel lengths... you can't beat the SS Evolution for comfort, handling and versatility. :bthumb:
 
#22 ·
Front heavy balance...

I am not threaded, and haven't decided on whether or not I will(see poll in poll section), just wondering if a 22" heavy barrel was front heavy in the stock.
You can probably get away with your heavy contour 22" barrel in an EVO stock... but are probably on the long end of the range that I would recommend... the ones we posted pics of in this thread are 18" plus 1 7/8" for the brakes... total length is just under 20"... of course the brakes add a little extra weight on the outboard end... so they probably feel like the original 21" as far as balance goes. You really can't go wrong with either stock. :bthumb:
 
#32 ·
Projects...



You and me both... I am tricking up a pair of H&R Ultra Varmints in .243 and have all my DIP metal and scope rails on the way for two Savage MKII .17 HM2 Builds... plus a secret build that I can't speak of here, because the recipient monitors these threads :)D)... and so it goes on! :AR15firin
 
#36 · (Edited)
Not a bad looking rifle if you like the style, I guess the more I looked at it, the less I care for the style. I have handled a couple and don't care for them, the grip may help, but having shot regular rifles for years, that's what I'm used to. Myself, I don't care for the evolution stocks at all, I like my BRJ just fine. The EVO looks like something from a space movie, maybe I'm just a little old fashion, but a rifle should look like a rifle, they all shoot the same as long as you have a good rifle to begin with.

I also think of a tactical rifle as a major caliber, not a 22 LR or a .17.
I guess it's to each his own, I just think it's a waste of money, my BRJ will shoot with anything else without all the fancy add on's. I'd just as soon save my money and buy another 22 either a new Savage or a nice older rifle to restore. To me, 22 LR is for small game hunting and paper punching, any serious social work and the .223 or .308 come out.
Still, all in all, you did a nice job. Even if I don't care for it, I always appriciate a job well done on any weapon.

Just my 2 cents, John K
 
#37 ·
Well John...

Not a bad looking rifle if you like the style, I guess the more I looked at it, the less I care for the style. I have handled a couple and don't care for them, the grip may help, but having shot regular rifles for years, that's what I'm used to. Myself, I don't care for the evolution stocks at all, I like my BRJ just fine. The EVO looks like something from a space movie, maybe I'm just a little old fashion, but a rifle should look like a rifle, they all shoot the same as long as you have a good rifle to begin with.

I also think of a tactical rifle as a major caliber, not a 22 LR or a .17.
I guess it's to each his own, I just think it's a waste of money, my BRJ will shoot with anything else without all the fancy add on's. I'd just as soon save my money and buy another 22 either a new Savage or a nice older rifle to restore. To me, 22 LR is for small game hunting and paper punching, any serious social work and the .223 or .308 come out.
Still, all in all, you did a nice job. Even if I don't care for it, I always appriciate a job well done on any weapon.

Just my 2 cents, John K
Well John...

Maybe if YOU look less, the guns will get better looking! (RED) :D

I suppose I enjoy wasting my money on things that get my kids and their friends excited to go shooting. (BLUE) :D

Thanks for your "TWO CENTS"... now I am going to blow it on some fancy space-aged add-on for our next build! (PURPLE) :D

You seem grouchy today, John... Is it because I`m talking about DIP and not Scott? :eek:
 
#38 ·
No, as a matter of fact, if you look at the post where the guy was trying to get bottom metal from DIP, I said something very nice about the company, several days before this post.

It was an honest comment on how I felt, others may love them and being a somewhat free society can do anything they want with their firearms as long as it's legal.

I use a DIP scope base, love them and have recommended it to many, I just am not into that style of stock or making a 22 into a tactical rifle.

I did compliment you on the nice job you did building the rifles and as you can see, said if it's something you like, have at it, I just don't care for the style, have not since the first time I handled one, I prefer the standard stye of rifle, no bad feelings, I don't play like that. Others may, but not me. I will however give an honest opinion on how I feel about things, never to be hurtful or to attack, that's what 12 year old's do.

I'd rather put the money into another rifle or quality glass for one I already have. To me, it's a waste, to others, fantastic. It's just one persons opinion. I very much doubt it would stop anyone from building one like you have if they want one, nothing negitive was said about the quality of the products or company service. It would be unfair to say anything negitive about DIP, I've been more than pleased with the products.

The only one who had put down on a company was you with your comment about SGS being too expensive on everything. Their bottom metal does cost more than DIP's bottom metal, you are right about that and their quality is excellent, the money charged for gunsmithing services is very fair. I guess that's the difference between us, I just said I didn't like the style, I didn't attack your company or products, I have praised them many times in posts. I didn't like the fact that your bottom metal was unfinished when you first put out, but made no comment. You have fixed that problem from what you have said.

Having never had the two bottom metals in my hand to examine, I made a nice comment for DIP, maybe one is better than the other, but I don't make negitive comments unless I know something for sure.

I'm sorry if you felt it was some sort of attack, the rifles are very nicely put togather. If they are a style you like, great, it's just not my style, I thought I made that pretty clear.
When one just says that they like one style better than the other and would rather put my money into a regular rifle, it's an opinion that is just mine, to me, it's a waste of money, my opinion only.
It was followed with the comment that they were very nicely done.

As to DIP, I think they make great products and some have asked where to get bottom metal, I mention DIP as one of the two that makes bottom metal.
I also use a DIP scope base and love it. I've recommended every time someone asks about a scope base and have praised their quality.
I've bought parts for my wife's 10-22 from DIP also.

So, no sour apples. I have purchased more than a few things from DIP, have got great service, fast delivery and the products have been excellent. I will continue to buy DIP products that I need and give 5 thumbs up to the products and service.

My dislike for the EVO has nothing to do with DIP, I dislike any brand of tactical 22 LR, dislike the expensive Styr rifles, AR-15's and many others. If I want a battle rifle, give me a M-14, that's a real battle rifle. It's just my opinion. Your opinion may be very different and I respect opinions of others. I do appriciate any weapon done nicely just for the fact of the time, effort and skill put into them even if I don't care for the style. That's just being honest, not an attack.

My Best, John K
 
#39 ·
Not to drag this out... BUT...

No, as a matter of fact, if you look at the post where the guy was trying to get bottom metal from DIP, I said something very nice about the company, several days before this post.

It was an honest comment on how I felt, others may love them and being a somewhat free society can do anything they want with their firearms as long as it's legal.

I use a DIP scope base, love them and have recommended it to many, I just am not into that style of stock or making a 22 into a tactical rifle.

I did compliment you on the nice job you did building the rifles and as you can see, said if it's something you like, have at it, I just don't care for the style, have not since the first time I handled one, I prefer the standard stye of rifle, no bad feelings, I don't play like that. Others may, but not me. I will however give an honest opinion on how I feel about things, never to be hurtful or to attack, that's what 12 year old's do.

I'd rather put the money into another rifle or quality glass for one I already have. To me, it's a waste, to others, fantastic. It's just one persons opinion. I very much doubt it would stop anyone from building one like you have if they want one, nothing negitive was said about the quality of the products or company service. It would be unfair to say anything negitive about DIP, I've been more than pleased with the products.

The only one who had put down on a company was you with your comment about SGS being too expensive on everything. Their bottom metal does cost more than DIP's bottom metal, you are right about that and their quality is excellent, the money charged for gunsmithing services is very fair. I guess that's the difference between us, I just said I didn't like the style, I didn't attack your company or products, I have praised them many times in posts. I didn't like the fact that your bottom metal was unfinished when you first put out, but made no comment. You have fixed that problem from what you have said.
Having never had the two bottom metals in my hand to examine, I made a nice comment for DIP, maybe one is better than the other, but I don't make negitive comments unless I know something for sure.

I'm sorry if you felt it was some sort of attack, the rifles are very nicely put togather. If they are a style you like, great, it's just not my style, I thought I made that pretty clear.
When one just says that they like one style better than the other and would rather put my money into a regular rifle, it's an opinion that is just mine, to me, it's a waste of money, my opinion only.
It was followed with the comment that they were very nicely done.

As to DIP, I think they make great products and some have asked where to get bottom metal, I mention DIP as one of the two that makes bottom metal.
I also use a DIP scope base and love it. I've recommended every time someone asks about a scope base and have praised their quality.
I've bought parts for my wife's 10-22 from DIP also.

So, no sour apples. I have purchased more than a few things from DIP, have got great service, fast delivery and the products have been excellent. I will continue to buy DIP products that I need and give 5 thumbs up to the products and service.

My dislike for the EVO has nothing to do with DIP, I dislike any brand of tactical 22 LR, dislike the expensive Styr rifles, AR-15's and many others. If I want a battle rifle, give me a M-14, that's a real battle rifle. It's just my opinion. Your opinion may be very different and I respect opinions of others. I do appriciate any weapon done nicely just for the fact of the time, effort and skill put into them even if I don't care for the style. That's just being honest, not an attack.

My Best, John K
John... don't want to drag this out... I was only messing with you because of the Savage Gunsmithing thread and the fact that you were more negative than usual (in my opinion)... BUT... in the red highlighted portion you are talking like I am somehow affiliated with DIP... I am not... I am not affiliated with ANY company... I am a private shooter who uses what he likes and recommends what works... as far as Savage Gunsmithing is concerned... I had no problem with the bottom metal... EXCEPT, that it is overpriced, and in perusing Scott's website... MY OPINION... is that most if not ALL of his services and products are overpriced... compared to the open market... AND THAT IS MY OPINION!!! I am fairly sure that in short order you will respond with a lengthy diatribe... so have at it. :bthumb: :D
 
#40 ·
I did think you were with DIP. I hope you did not think I didn't like your rifles, they are fantastic, just not my style at all.

I always appriciate good work on a firearm, it does not matter if I like the style of the gun or not, I appriciate great gunsmithing and your guns look fantastic.

The price thing, I just think that a person needs to take the quality of work into account, prices are subjective, in many cases, you get what you pay for. Depends on the difficulty and final quality, much of which cannot be seen.

I'll leave it there. I could write a book on gunsmiths, not going to happen.

Anyway, I have no problem with you and appoligize if my post was harsh, it was not the intention. You or you and your smith do great work.
I guess it's like the new anamated movies, I don't like those either, people don't just fly through the air, they get on their horse, wearing their white hat and go get the bad guys. Just born to late.

My Best, John K
 
#41 ·
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I did think you were with DIP. I hope you did not think I didn't like your rifles, they are fantastic, just not my style at all.

I always appriciate good work on a firearm, it does not matter if I like the style of the gun or not, I appriciate great gunsmithing and your guns look fantastic.

The price thing, I just think that a person needs to take the quality of work into account, prices are subjective, in many cases, you get what you pay for. Depends on the difficulty and final quality, much of which cannot be seen.

I'll leave it there. I could write a book on gunsmiths, not going to happen.

Anyway, I have no problem with you and appoligize if my post was harsh, it was not the intention. You or you and your smith do great work.
I guess it's like the new anamated movies, I don't like those either, people don't just fly through the air, they get on their horse, wearing their white hat and go get the bad guys. Just born to late.

My Best, John K
:D :bthumb: :AR15firin
 
#44 ·
Did you put the black textured finish on the evo stock or was it done by Savage? I called Savage and asked if the black textured evo was available and they said no. They do have some unfinished evo's on sale so I'm considering one of them and then put my own finish on it.

thanks & great looking rifles!

Dan