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617: 4" vs 6"

13K views 32 replies 26 participants last post by  Gripen  
#1 ·
I really want a .22 revolver. DA would be preferred and this leaves me with little choice. The 617 looks to be as close to ideal as is available, but I'm still debating which size.

I've held the 6" version two times and each time I thought it felt fine, not too muzzle heavy at all. I'm used to hefty guns, being the owner of a 6" Ruger GP100, which is basically the same weight as a 6" 617.

While such heft is much appreciated when trying to tame the massive recoil of a .357 load, it does seem over the top for a .22. My current (first & only thus far) .22 is a MK III 5.5" bull barrel that weights in at 52 ounces with a Match Dot mounted with steel quick detach rings.

I really wish S&W would make the 617 with a 6" that lacks the totally unnecessary underlug. I appreciate the value of greater sight radius, but the 4" version already weighs as much as any centerfire revolver, being near 40 ounces. I think Glock fans would call that an anvil.

Any thoughts on which I should get? Yes, I can afford both, which I suspect will produce confused replies of "what's the question then -- buy both, Duh!"

I think I'll most likely go with the 4" version & depending on how much I like that I could consider adding the 6". I'm guessing plenty of you reading this have such a pair.

One more question: do you feel there is any other .22 revolvers I should consider? The Ruger Single Ten is under serious consideration, though the 617 would allow me to practice & master DA trigger control in a most economical manner with bulk packs of .22.

I know Ruger has the SP101 in .22, but I'm just not thrilled with the [too] small SP101 frame. If they simply had that gun in full size, it would be perfect.
 
#2 ·
I have a 10 shot 617 with a 6 inch barrel. If you are planning to use the iron sights, get the 6 inch. It will build up your hand and make you a better shooter not only with the 617 but with other guns. I have a Colt Python with a 6 inch barrel and it is almost the same size and weight as my 617.

If you are planning to use a scope on the 617 then get the four inch because you will be adding weight. With a scope you won't need the longer sight radius that the 6 inch provides.
 
#8 ·
I'm a relative novice and I don't feel very comfortable with buying used guns. I can see obvious damage, but I have no way of knowing if somebody is unloading their pile of junk with unseen defects on me.

Wouldn't those older models also be only 6 shot?
 
#10 ·
I would recommend you get the 4" first and then add the 6" if you wish later on. You'll also probably enjoy the DS-10 Speedloaders, which are shown below.
I think I will most likely go with the 4" first and see how that goes. I've never gotten my hands on a 4" version as Cabela's only carries the 6". These are not the easiest guns to find (not that I've looked all that hard). Evidently, most of the nation is into either Glocks or 1911s & "real" calibers, totally failing to appreciate the timeless beauty of the revolver & the wonders of the humble .22LR.

I think I'll have to pass on speed loaders, as that would just be yet another thing to drag to a range.

Thanks for the pics of your pair. They look great, especially with the wood grips.

I know I'm just over-thinking this issue. It's not like there's any wrong choice here.
 
#6 ·
If you are never planning on mounting any kind of scope at all, then the 6" is fine if you are comfortable with it.
Most people seem to find that the 6" is a bit heavier and unwieldly, me being one of them.
I went with the 4" both for keeping the weight down plus I knew I wanted to mount a red dot at some point so a lighter pistol was desired in the first place to offset the weight of the scope, and, the longer barrel wouldn't be necessary anyway when scoped.

But you seem to be leaning toward the 6" so, for you, that would probably be the way to go for your first 617.

As an aside: I've been buying revolvers for over 40 years, and the reason I mostly bought 6" (or longer) barrels was because I never dreamed of scoping a revolver back then, and, since there was no such thing as concealed carry until recently, I never thought of a revolver needing to be more "compact" for potential carry. (I still kick myself for passing on a brand new Python 2-1/2" sitting at a LGS in the late 70's for just over $400.)
If I could do it all over again, I would have bought most of my revolvers in 4", some of them in the 2" range, and only one or two longer than 4" (my 8-3/8" Model 29 in Nickle is a long range tack driver with it's original open sights).
Nowadays, the ONLY barrel lengths I consider for any revolver I buy is 4" and under depending on the caliber and what I intend to use it for.
 
#9 ·
As you probably gather, the choice of a 4” or 6” barrel for a 617 is really just a matter of personal preference. If you are happy with the weight and balance of a 6” GP100, then you first choice may be the 6” 617.

For myself, I prefer the weight and balance plus sight radius of the 6” 17. Among the 617s, I prefer the weight and balance of the 4” but I have a 5” that I am very fond of. I find the 6” a little more muzzle heavy than I prefer. I know they made a few stainless versions of the 6” 17 and I would love it if they made more.
 
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#19 ·
I've got both the 6 and 4 inch 617s and like them both. I shoot Steel Challenge and my 6 inch gun is my primary weapon. I like the 10 shot and do not feel outgunned by any of the automatics. It hosts a fiber optic front sight and an LPA rear sight and is very accurate.

My 4 inch hosts a C-More Railway red dot sight. It balances perfectly with the dot and is easy on transitions. With the C-More, moving from target to target is the natural sequence of things. Sight hardly rises and next shot is already prepped and ready.
 
#20 ·
As people have stated weight and balance are the two most common things cited when choosing the 4 over the 6". There are rimfire revolvers but they are also full framed all steel revolvers and that weight can get tiresome for many shooters. It is highly unlikely you'll see any difference in accuracy between them even with iron sights. I agree with the comment to get the 4" first, you never hear anyone say they have a 4" and it's too light lol.
 
#21 ·
I had a 6-inch Model 617. It was very accurate but so heavy. For me, it wasn't pleasant to shoot like my Model 17 6 inch. I I will buy a 4-inch Model 617 in the near future. After I tried out the feel of the 4-inch model, I can say it's better balanced. S&W needs to get rid of the full-length rib.
 
#22 ·
Wow, this is an old thread.

Times have not changed. It all comes down to what you are using it for. If you need the longer sight radius, get the 6”. If you are going to carry it, get the 4”. The 4” 617 has a balance similar to the 6” model 17. The full lug of the 617 sure changes the balance of the revolver.

My 8-3/8” model 617 needs wheels and a bipod.