What's the max velocity and weight of the pellet out of your Daystate?

I now the CCI Quiets I have are pushing a 40grain .22 at 710 FPS at the muzzle.

Looks like CCI has introduced a new Quiet. They're 45g starting at 835FPS. Here's a link with a ballistic chart:

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I keep shots 25 yards and under. They are very quiet out of a 24" barrel. They sound like my old BB gun.

 

I have my Daystate shooting at 19.5 foot pounds of energy due to the field target rules. According to CCI the quiet round generates 40 foot pounds at the muzzle. I guess I should have focused my question to include accuracy. while I'm asking is there lot more fouling than normal with this round. Thanks for your quick response. By the way I like your adventures with your dog.

I'm shooting 16. grain JSB pellets at approximately 750 FPS

 

I have a Daystate Huntsman. It shoots 18.1g pellets at 845 fps. At 50 yards it’s lethal on any squirrels I’ve shot with it and it’s amazingly accurate at that distance. What problems are you having using your Daystate?

 

No problem just would like to use the a Rimfire for variety.

 

Did the Daystate let you down? Three years is a good track record.

 

Never a problem. Because I shoot field target the rules restrict me to 20 foot lbs of energy so I'm looking for a little more pop on the longer shots.

 

My only complaint about the 710fps Quiets is there's a surprise or two in every box. They can be surprisinglyy accurate and then one won't have enough powder to make it to a 20yd target IME. That said it will drop a raccoon DRT @ 20yds with a shot between the running lights.

 

Yeah, that........it may be good to calc/find the retained energy at 50yd of both. Ultimately it will likely require you to get some Quiets and target em at 50 in your choice of rifle to see IF they meet your accuracy requirements.

 

I use a BSA Lightening in .22 cal, and the CCI Quiet .22 in my Savage and Winchester. Yes, the rimfire rounds at 710 hit harder, and they will also go farther after going through a squirrel. If you don’t have neighbors terribly close, nor anything that can be damaged in your vicinity, they’re great until you get that radically underpowered round, or the crazy flyer!

 

Although it may not be an issue in your case, the air rifle has the advantage of not being a firearm. A number of years ago an uncle and I were shooting one of my airguns in his yard. One of his neighbors saw us and called the police even though we were shooting into a good backstop that wasn't in the direction of anyone's home. The cop came and after we explained it was an airgun, all he could say was "well be careful". We could have ended up with a citation if it had been any kind of firearm.

 

In the city I live in, an air rifle is considered a firearm, and you can be fined and be slapped with a felony firearms charge. A federal judge would probaly throw it out but at a major cost to me. By definition a firearm is a device that uses a chemical reaction to cause an explosion to launch a projectile, an air rifle uses compressed air to eject the projectile. I explained this to a local officer and he just stated I don't make the laws.

 

The Daystate at 48 yards will be more consistently accurate than the .22 Quiet will be. And more quiet. 48 yards is stretching it for the Quiets. And the pellet rifle is safer.

 

Quiets (710) are fairly quiet in a rifle. In a pistol they can still be kind of loud. They don’t cycle either. The semi-auto ones are kind of a waste in my opinion. They are not much quieter than SV and less reliable.

 

If you want more power I suggest using a suppressor and any of the “suppressor” .22 variants. They are all pretty much the same, cci suppressor, am eagle suppressor, and Winchester suppressor. They hit hard. 45 grain 970 feet per second, 94 ft lbs energy. I don’t know how that compares to the daystate. Of course any of the other tons of subsonic rounds available will work as well. The cci quiet semi auto is as low as I ever go power wise. 835 fps. Much less accurate for me compared to standard velocity or other subs. I woudl not use cci quiet 710 fps as it won’t cycle semi autos. But you may have a bolt gun or whatever. I’ve found them to be inconsistent for me compared to other more powerful subs.

Out of a rifle the suppressed subsonics will probably be quieter than the airgun. I have a marauder pistol with TKO suppressor and it’s ridiculously quiet. The quietest combo the TKO maker has ever heard. The 22lr with long barrel suppressed subsonics are pretty darn close sound wise. The action of a semi auto .22 and the bullet hitting the target are usually louder than the actual shot.

 

I have a .22 springer, no suppressor, and it’s definitely louder than my .22LR subsonics with a can, pistol or rifle.

Just a data point…..I’m sure the Wolverine with a can is very quiet.👍

 

My neighbor can't believe how quiet it is. If I weren't shooting reactive targets for practice he wouldn't even know I'm shooting. I've invited him to shoot but he has declined so far. I do have a backstop filled with old newspapers and that eliminates any sound when I'm using paper targets.
Based on the comments I'm going to stick with the Wolverine.
Thanks everyone for your thoughtful answers.

 

A few years ago in St. Louis county a fellow was shooting squirrels with his pellet gun.
He missed and an old lady sitting on her porch blocks away was hit in the neck and died.
Be very careful of the backdrop. Don't shoot up into trees.

 

I was shooting my Browning SA using a box of ” quiets” . Pure crap ,I could watch the rounds going down range,looked like I’d taken a shotgun to the target

 

Agree the step from cci quiet 710 fpe to cci quiet semi auto 835 fpe is huge in terms of accuracy. Then stepping up to cci standard velocity or cci clean subsonic is huge. Just speaking of cci family subsonics only. Things like cb short/long, cci quiet 710 have been extremely inconsistent for me. Colibre by aguila is some of the worst you can find also because it’s tiny power hugely inconsistent.

 

I've been experimenting with CCI Quiets as well as CB 22 Shorts in a variety of my 22 rifles, comparing loudness and accuracy in these rifles to every kind of air gun, including my suppressed Daystate Huntsman Revere.

Compared to your suppressed Daystate, the Daystate is noticeably quieter than the CCI Quiets out of a 24" 22 rifle and even quieter than the Quiets out of a 20" rifle barrel. Barrel length does make a difference. If noise is a concern, I do not recommend Quiets in a handgun.

In terms of accuracy, it's not even close. At 30 yards, your Daystate or any quality air rifle will make the Quiets look bad, even if you shoot Quiets out of a top grade Anschutz. I know, because I've tried. At 30 yards with the Quiets, even in a match grade 22 rifle , it's very difficult to go 5 straight shots without at least one flyer that opens up the group. Typically it's 2 or 3 flyers. No way would I recommend Quiets beyond 30 yards if accuracy is a concern. For head shots on squirrels, I'd keep distances under 30 yards.

 

I have never owned pcp’s. High powered spring gamos in 177. I have a suppressed Ruger 10/22 charger with a firefly bolt & it cycles CCI quiets 710 and 835 with no issues. Definetly quieter and harder hitting. Even at 710 - 835 fps. its zeroed at 50 yds. Love it! Always wanted a pcp but i Found it easier to go this route. Don’t regret it.

 

DecibelX is a free phone app.

 

Any of the phone apps won’t work for gunshots. The only thing that will work is an impulse meter with a fast rise time. Generally these have a rise time of 25-35 microseconds (millionths of a second) rise time. Any of the cheaper meters, iPhone apps will miss the peak impulse which is an extremely brief moment (and is what our ears hear) so they are worthless for measuring gunshots.

The only meters capable of capturing the peak (about 20 millions of a second) are the crazy expensive b&k or Larson Davis meters. The numbers given by regular db meters, phones etc are meaningless because they aren’t capturing the peak (which is what we hear).

 

Stick with the Daystate, you already have it, you already know the accuracy, you already know how it performs.

I have a Weihrauch HW100S. 22, it does 970 fps with 18.1 JSB Heavy for 37 ft lbs of muzzle energy and is extremely quiet with the OEM moderator. It is also very accurate, not subject to the foibles of CCI quality control and doesn't carry high energy to longer distances like a 29 grain bullet would, having 17 ft lbs of energy left at 100 yards with the JSB Heavies. The Daystate likely performs similarly. The Daystate also likely will also have a better trigger than all but specially built target cartridge rifles.

 

I shoot both air rifles and .22 rimfire. CCI quiets out of my winchester 67 are quieter than my suppressed HW80K .20 cal.

 

My Huntsman is super quiet
My Edgun is even quieter.
50 yard shots are no problem

Stay with the Daystate

 

My Huntsman is super quiet
My Edgun is even quieter.
50 yard shots are no problem

Stay with the Daystate

Ooooooh Edgun! Flippin awesome guns!

 

Thanks Andy
You are correct, but I worked with Universal Silencer (Wisconsin)for 20 years
We had anechoic chamber and sound was measured