For me there is no comparison.
Kidd all the way. You can pay me now, or pay me later. Remember that? Kidd is more expensive but in a higher league.

 

The most accurate is a plain steel bull barrel. The more you carve it up, build it out of different materials, etc... the more you can affect the accuracy.

Kidd will tell you their lightweight and ultralight barrels are not their most accurate. You sacrifice a certain amount of accuracy for that light weight.

Longer barrels are both heavier/front heavy and lay on bags with more stability. Shorter barrels are lighter, quicker to point and easier to carry around. If you're mostly shooting off a bench, a plain, non-fluted steel 20" barrel is hard to beat. If you're hunting or carrying the rifle around a lot, a shorter and lighter barrel starts to become attractive.

Choose the actual real life use of the gun, and choose the barrel accordingly.

This being said, Kidd has a reputation for more consistently putting out top notch products. Green Mountain has some good stuff as well. If I were ordering the SAME barrel from both places, I'd feel more certain I was getting a KEEPER with the Kidd. If you're comparing a Kidd lightweight aluminum clad to a Green Mountain Steel... that's a little harder comparison. I have a lightweight Kidd on one of my 10/22's... and it's around mid pack among my 7 rifles... which are all really good shooters, as they have all made the trip to CPC for full tune-ups. I just swapped the CPC barrel on one gun for the Kidd, as I wanted one that was threaded on the end.

If you would send your rifle to CPC for a tune-up, he only works on steel barrels... be it stock of aftermarket.

 

The most accurate is a plain steel bull barrel. The more you carve it up, build it out of different materials, etc... the more you can affect the accuracy.

Kidd will tell you their lightweight and ultralight barrels are not their most accurate. You sacrifice a certain amount of accuracy for that light weight.

Longer barrels are both heavier/front heavy and lay on bags with more stability. Shorter barrels are lighter, quicker to point and easier to carry around. If you're mostly shooting off a bench, a plain, non-fluted steel 20" barrel is hard to beat. If you're hunting or carrying the rifle around a lot, a shorter and lighter barrel starts to become attractive.

Choose the actual real life use of the gun, and choose the barrel accordingly.

This being said, Kidd has a reputation for more consistently putting out top notch products. Green Mountain has some good stuff as well. If I were ordering the SAME barrel from both places, I'd feel more certain I was getting a KEEPER with the Kidd. If you're comparing a Kidd lightweight aluminum clad to a Green Mountain Steel... that's a little harder comparison. I have a lightweight Kidd on one of my 10/22's... and it's around mid pack among my 7 rifles... which are all really good shooters, as they have all made the trip to CPC for full tune-ups. I just swapped the CPC barrel on one gun for the Kidd, as I wanted one that was threaded on the end.

If you would send your rifle to CPC for a tune-up, he only works on steel barrels... be it stock of aftermarket.

On point!

 

I had a Green Mountain barrel on my 10/22 that i used when squirrel hunting with dogs. Thought it was too heavy so I ordered the Kidd ULW. Much easier to carry in these hills chasing dogs that are treed. But the Green Mountain was a way better shooter. Don't get me wrong my Kidd is plenty good. I may have got lucky with my Green Mountain, it would almost hang with my Anschutz.

 

I don't think it's luck as I get the same results with my GM 28" over my Kidd 18" bull.

 

If you would send your rifle to CPC for a tune-up, he only works on steel barrels... be it stock of aftermarket.

This is not correct, below is a post from about a week ago on another thread from Randy at CPC.

I work on a lot of stainless barrels, no problem... I just when asked concerning carbine barrels with open
sights that the blued 18.5" barrel is a better choice than it's SS brother...
(Also the stainless 24" Varmint barrel for the 77/22 in .22 LR is a bad choice... Bad rifling... Same 24" SS
77/22 barrels in .22 Magnum. Hornets or .17 Cal are good... Yes strange...)
Newer 20" 10/22 varmint tapered barrels are very good in both SS and blued... All LVT's are hot...

 

This is not correct, below is a post from about a week ago on another thread from Randy at CPC.

Uh, the post you quoted says nothing about aluminum barrels, so what’s your point?


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Actually I interpreted the post incorrectly after rereading it.
I have seen other references to where CPC does not care for SS barrels and took the post I referenced to be meaning he only worked on blued STEEL barrels.
I apologize for my error.

 

The OP mentioned the Kidd Lightweight Barrel, which is clad in aluminum. He does not work on those. He only works on solid steel/stainless steel barrels. No bi-metal barrels.

 

Actually he did..
He worked on my majestic arms barrels.

 

My 24" Green Mountain is more accurate than either of my Kidd barrels. Actually sold one the other day. Paid $205 delivered for my GM barrel. 5 shot group at 100 yards .386".

 

My 2 centavos. If you are building a complete kidd. Receiver bolt handle pins trigger tanf etc, then buy the kidd barrel. Mine , thank you hump, is my best 1022. I have 5 GMs, and they shoot almost as well, but they are in a mish mash of parts, and not quite as easy to shoot as well.I have a 28 inch SS, a blue 20 inch std taper, 2 17 heavy tapers one blue one SS, and my fav a 24 inch blue running boar.Mr Depardieu

 

DLASK makes their barrels from GM blanks, they also sell Kidd barrels. Both shoot well

 

I equipped both of my 10/22's, so inaccurate out of the box I wouldn't even waste ammo shooting them, with 20" GM bull barrels before I ever heard of Kidd. What an amazing difference the barrels and my homemade stocks made in these two rifles. I really don't know if I would spend the additional dollars on a Kidd if I were to do another build considering how well the GM barrels perform.

 

Bought Feddersen 16" threaded for 190 delivered. coupled with Kidd single stage trigger and charging rod. Polished up the bolt, its smooth. What a difference from stock. Got .750 at 100 yd. Calm day Nice

 

Have had a 16.5" GM .920 SS fluted in the past it shot really well. Consistently in the. 4 to .5 at 50 and ±1" at 100 with it. Had some really nice groups in the .20 at 50 range a few times with Lapua.
Fed and extracted just right. Would hold onto a chambered round pretty tightly. I really liked it but it got sold a few years ago.

 

I had a VQ carbon fiber barrel and it always shot well for me.

 

Have you considered a hart barrel

 

See the 50 yd photo above my screen name. That is with an 18" Kidd stainless steel bull barrel in a Victor Titan stock. CCI standard ammo. I haven't even tried match ammo yet. No trick rests, just an old caldwell bag and no rear bag.
If I had to do it again I'd go 20".
I did upgrad the extractor when I had other barrels. It has been 100% with the Kidd.

 

Kidd vs GM ? Truth is they are both good and have good reputations. Kidd is probably more consistant, has more options, and prettier, but the trade off is it costs quite a bit more. If you are ok with the cost your chances of getting a bad barrel from Kidd are pretty slim.

-Jeff

 

What about acculite?

 

If you the $ then Kidd is the way to go!

 

When using either the Kidd or Green Mt barrels, do you find that you are required to use high grade ammo in them in order for them to consistently feed well? I am thinking about upgrading my barrel, buy don't want to be stuck having to buy the high grade rounds for it all the time. Accuracy is fine, but I am not looking for tiny groups. Sometimes I just want to shoot cheap ammo and have some fun.

 

I have one VQ CF Barrel that shoots CCI MINI MAG HP'S. I have several Kidd Barreled rifles and one does well with CCI MINI MAGS HP'S. The other shoots Eley Subsonic hp's. They all are squirrel head worthy😉

 

My green mt. barrel shoots cheep high velocity, just not as accurate.

 

Put one together using a kidd 18 inch lightweight and kidd bolt with and old 10/22 target stock and a polymer trigger group with a volquartsen target hammer in it that i polished up. Used a blem receiver and hardware from S&P. It consistently shoots .4 at 50, with regular .3 and occasional groups in the .2s with sk standard. Was testing some different ammos and had light primer strikes with several flavors of eley. Went back to sk without a problem. Probably just a dirty chamber. Need to clean and try the eley again. Shoots cci standard at .5. Very pleased with my first kidd shoots as well as my federson but wanted something much lighter for a squirrel rifle.

 

I own the Kidd lightweight 16.5 threaded on a gun that is all Kidd except the receiver. Gun shoots 1/2" with cci standard and in the 2s and 3s with SK Standard +, very pleased with the barrel. I actually have two of then, but will probably sell the second on as my main gun is now a CZ 457 Pro Varmint.

 

The OP was a tyoical hit-and-run poster. He never came back to the forum after his initial post - one and a half years ago. He never saw even one helpful response.



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The OP was a tyoical hit-and-run poster. He never came back to the forum after his initial post - one and a half years ago. He never saw even one helpful response.



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what a poopoo head

 

I know this is not directly related to a 10/22 but I was told that Benjamin PCP Air Rifles that are set up for field target matches come from the factory with Green Mountain Barrels.

 

True - the OP moved on to greener pastures, but the question generated a lot of good discussion. I have enjoyed reading everyone's posts and learning from their experiences.

Perhaps - but why not start a new thread? Not everyone wants to wade through pages of old posts - if you do then the search function works great. Besides, the site administrator prefers that old threads not be resurrected, but I guess who cares what he wants....