One of my Marlins shot lights out with Winchester 34 grain Supremes and I picked up 1k about 4 years ago. I've seen none in the last couple of years, the new Supreme has been disappointing to say the least. Good luck in your search.

 

Midway has what they call Supreme in a black box. Target has the black box 34 grain. Dont know if this is what you want but it is a shot.
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/winchester-he-22-wmr-ammo-34-gr-jhp-s22wm-p-1532.aspx
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2...reme-ammunition-22-winchester-magnum-rimfire-wmr-30-grain-jacketed-hollow-point

 

Target Sports is out of stock of the 34 grain Supremes and my rifles shot poorly with the new 30 grain Supremes. YMMV

 

Havn't seen the 34 grain in years. Real shame, because several of my rifles really liked them, and they were very effective on varmint. Sad too, the reputation that Winchester is building in it's rimfire line. I won't buy another Winchester product until I start seeing some positive reviews of anything made by Winchester.

 

They have been discontinued. It is a shame, because the ones that I had several years ago shot exceptionally well out of my Marlin 982. I that combo, but had to get rid of the Marlin due to chronic misfires that Marlin could not correct. They were the best ammo in that particular gun.

 

well it's disappointing I have checked everywhere for anything close to the Winchester 34 grain Supreme and there isn't one if anybody has any information on something they're using as a reasonable substitute please let me know I sure would appreciate it

 

Dutch, there's lots of choices nowadays. Only thing to do is try them, until you find something your rifle likes. We are all in the same boat, in that regard. I've had good luck with the Speer gold dot HP, and a few others. Some like the 33 grain Remington. Big $$ though. Good luck with it.

 

dutch my 597 shoots the the old Winchester silver box 40 gr JHP real well. Find a box and give it a try you may be pleasantly surprised.

 

Midways site said ,imited production run!

Thats a shame! Both my Marlin XT-22M and Handiriflr loved that round!
I’ll have to use the boxes I have sparingly!

They will see a LOT of Hornady’s accordingly.

 

Used to shoot the Winchester Supreme out of my 9422M , tried the current 34gr. loading (Varmint HE ?) -utter garbage. Found the Remington Premiere ammunition works pretty good so I bought a large stash of it.

 

http://www.winchester.com/Products/...s/rimfire-ammunition/Advanced/Varmint-HE/Pages/default.aspx?c=22+Winchester+Mag.

Apparently, it's been revamped and renamed "Varmint-High Energy".

 

Weird, I saw some of this at a local shop the other day. I couldn't remember it being that impressive in my rifles, so I left it there. If it had been cheaper, I might have picked some up to try again, but at $15 per box, it didn't seem worth it to me.

 

I know this thread is quite old, but thought I would give it a little revive for my first post. Perhaps throw some shade at Winchester, and see how experiences others are having with the new Win 34gr. I have a Marlin 925m that I have had for years. It loved the old supremes. At the time, I never got to shoot very much because I didnt have the space for it. 6 months or so ago, I bought a new house with some space. Literally a mile to the closest house out of my backyard so naturally shooting frequency has increased. About 3 years ago I bought a couple CZs, a 457 in WMR as well as a 512. Naturally they are a dream to shoot compared to the Marlin, but since I'm shooting more, I got down to my last box of OLD Winny Supremes. I loved those rounds, way more devastating than anything on the market now with the only exception being the TNT bullets from Federal and CCI. But the 34 gr Winchester does seem to offer slightly more penetration while still reliably expanding much more so than the 40 grain offerings, and even the 30 vmax in my experience. Getting back on topic, I thought if Winchester discontinued and "revamped" the 34 gr round, it couldn't have possibly got worse......so guess what I did.... Ordered 500. When I got them, I was excited. The marlin was going to be happy and there would be something that could be relied on. First thing I did was open the box to check out the differences.... %%%. Not the same at all. First off, right away you can see the difference between the opening of the hollow point. The old ones have ZERO exposed lead, the new ones do. Thats just what I see. As far as quality control goes, wherever these are made there is no quality control. As a consumer, if someone from Winchester ever contacted me and tried to explain differently, I would not believe them. The openings of the hollow points are various sizes, the bullets themselves, as well as the casings are damaged. Remember, I ordered 500. Didnt count the exact number, but there was over 1 box of defects found, rounds I will absolutely not put through the barrel of my Marlin. That means there is over a 10% fallout rate which is disgusting considering how automated bullet manufacturing is. With that being said, I did not contact Winchester. I am simply keeping these and showing them to you all so you can avoid buying them. Sure Winchester could send me more, but why? The others I've sorted out and tried shooting them. Even at 50yards I'm getting 2.5 inch groups. Some of this was self induced because I bought so many without testing them first. I can accept that, but the quality control of Winchester..... Well, Ill let you guys be the judge.

I guess I can't seem to link, attach, or embed anything. Hopefully this works for you guys.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zWNf6pwSOsk8QrGXGxGekASiGdH80lQN/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16S2o4QlfGKBzVRhfKsZ1uPNT8MO29ADA/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g5zdqRF3UsOK7dR9_IJahkRaL8xMvrEm/view?usp=sharing

 

I know this thread is quite old, but thought I would give it a little revive for my first post. Perhaps throw some shade at Winchester, and see how experiences others are having with the new Win 34gr. I have a Marlin 925m that I have had for years. It loved the old supremes. At the time, I never got to shoot very much because I didnt have the space for it. 6 months or so ago, I bought a new house with some space. Literally a mile to the closest house out of my backyard so naturally shooting frequency has increased. About 3 years ago I bought a couple CZs, a 457 in WMR as well as a 512. Naturally they are a dream to shoot compared to the Marlin, but since I'm shooting more, I got down to my last box of OLD Winny Supremes. I loved those rounds, way more devastating than anything on the market now with the only exception being the TNT bullets from Federal and CCI. But the 34 gr Winchester does seem to offer slightly more penetration while still reliably expanding much more so than the 40 grain offerings, and even the 30 vmax in my experience. Getting back on topic, I thought if Winchester discontinued and "revamped" the 34 gr round, it couldn't have possibly got worse......so guess what I did.... Ordered 500. When I got them, I was excited. The marlin was going to be happy and there would be something that could be relied on. First thing I did was open the box to check out the differences.... %%%. Not the same at all. First off, right away you can see the difference between the opening of the hollow point. The old ones have ZERO exposed lead, the new ones do. Thats just what I see. As far as quality control goes, wherever these are made there is no quality control. As a consumer, if someone from Winchester ever contacted me and tried to explain differently, I would not believe them. The openings of the hollow points are various sizes, the bullets themselves, as well as the casings are damaged. Remember, I ordered 500. Didnt count the exact number, but there was over 1 box of defects found, rounds I will absolutely not put through the barrel of my Marlin. That means there is over a 10% fallout rate which is disgusting considering how automated bullet manufacturing is. With that being said, I did not contact Winchester. I am simply keeping these and showing them to you all so you can avoid buying them. Sure Winchester could send me more, but why? The others I've sorted out and tried shooting them. Even at 50yards I'm getting 2.5 inch groups. Some of this was self induced because I bought so many without testing them first. I can accept that, but the quality control of Winchester..... Well, Ill let you guys be the judge.

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That’s pretty bad. I bought a couple boxes of Winchester 40gr JHPs a year or two ago, the 150rd value packs. There was no consistency to the bullet seating depths; some were crimped above the cannelure, some below, some on it.

Somehow my old Ruger 77/22 VMBZ still shoots them under .5” @50, but the rounds look terrible.

A couple 50rd boxes I bought since then (but before I knew about the defects) look much more consistent. Makes you wonder if Winchester tries to bulk sell their crappy rounds.

 

Personally I would have to notify them. You paid youre money and you shouldnt have to deal with that. Plus if nobody tells them they dont know.

 

I would notify them with those pics as well!!!
That is unacceptable! My maggies love that load and I would be more than disappointed to open a box and see that lack of quality. Winchester needs to know we won’t accept ammo that looks like that.
Please contact them!
Thank you!

 

You guys will be pleased that I did. They are sending me the necessary stuff to get it back to them for replacement.

 

Awesome! Thank you!
The quality needs to stay consistent, if not improve, we can’t allow it to degrade!

 

I use these in my 597. Both seem to shoot the same poi

 

Yep that is what shoots the best out of my 597! I have a half a box left of the 34 gr supreme. I have a lot of the Remington It sure is pricey now.