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Winchester Model 190 value?

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46K views 30 replies 19 participants last post by  snorthener  
#1 ·
There's a local guy selling a Winchester 190 22lr that he claims is in like new condition. It comes with a weaver scope as well. He's asking $150 which seems suspicious to me in today's market. I'm wondering if his price is reasonable for this rifle, or if the low price is a sign of something bad? I have not seen the rifle so taking his ad language at face value, what do you guys think?
 
#5 ·
There's lots of reading here on that Model Bandit Search results for query: winchester 190 | Rimfire Central Firearm Forum

I think the "jamomatic" reputation is undeserved but look through the threads linked above and see what you think.

Also if you look at completed sales on Gunbroker $150 is reasonable but really not that much lower than average although you will save shipping and tax with a face to face purchase.

winchester 190 For Sale – Buy winchester 190 at GunBroker.com

Again it boils down to do you really want it and have a use for it or do you just have some cash burning a hole in your pocket?

Frank
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the info Frank.

He sent me several pictures. He doesn't know what year it is but it looks brand new in his pictures. The pictures are high quality and you can still see the shine on the stock and barrel/receiver. Cant see any use/wear marks in the pictures. He thinks it was only test fired then put in the safe.

Don't really have money burning a hole in my pocket but I love 22 rifles, I have several and would like to collect one from most major manufacturers. I don't have a Winchester yet so thought this one might be a good deal.
 
#10 · (Edited)
I bought one at a LGS. It's a 190 Deluxe with a checkered stock. It's in good to very good condition and I paid $125 without a scope. It's trigger is in the 10# range. It's heavy but very fun to shoot. I've paid more for a good Single Malt Scotch that is now only a faded memory. This I'll have for a long time just for plinking.

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#11 ·
I have a 190, bought it around 45 years ago for $15 (but that's another story). The 190 has several features that the current market doesn't care for, i.e. two piece stock, tube magazine, lack of accessories/options, heavy trigger that generally can't be improved, and a barrel nut that tends to work loose. I've shot many rounds thru my 190 and so have my children and grandchildren, but once the grandchildren tried a 10/22 the 190 has been sitting in the safe.

There IS a slight workaround for the heavy trigger. If you pull straight back the trigger pull is generally 8-10 pounds, however if you press UP on the trigger (toward the stock rather than toward the buttplate), the pull is a more manageable 5-6 pounds.

$150 as you described it was a fair price.
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#12 · (Edited)
A few days back I bought a Sears Branded 3T from the neighbor. It looks almost new to me. I got it with a rusty coast to coast rebranded Marlin 40. That one is missing the magazine. I paid $50 for the pair.

The 3T is a pretty neat looking rifle to me. Pretty heavy barrel vs most 22LRs I’ve seen. The stock set is smooth wood with no checkering. Don’t know if it was designed that way? Just put them in the corner and forget about them till now. Spring turkey hunting is taking priority. Figured I’ll strip down the Marlin, re blue it, and re finish the stock. I bought a 552 speed master along with about 5 other guns for $400 last years. It’s a tack driver. I’ll see if the the 3T can shoot as good. Have not pulled the trigger yet so see how heavy it is or isn’t. The 552 is light. My 552 will shoot 6 in the same hole the size of a pencil eraser at 60 yards With cheap Winchester 333’s.

My 3T is missing the rear sight elevator. I’m on the look out for one.
 
#15 ·
My stepbro in Germany gone native had me sell off a bunch of his guns including a NIB, no box, 190. It shot horribly with Eley ss rn @ 25yds... a 4-5" shotgun pattern if memory serves. Twas the least accurate gun shot in my life.
 
#16 ·
I removed the action from my $25 T3 find last night. It was one of two of the dirtiest gun I’ve ever encountered. It was packed with old hard grease and dirt. i had to remove some really hard chunks of old grease. I kept tapping the trigger group upside down and it would rain hard grease chunk and dirt. Im sure it wouldn’t have cycled before cleaning. I’ll have to give the barrel a good cleaning and install a scope before I test it for accuracy. I couldn’t believe the pin that holds the trigger group to the receiver was hollow plastic.
 
#19 ·
I'm really late to the party here, but they can be found in good condition. My father in law gave me one his father gave him. I've yet to date it, but it is new and unfired. Unfortunately the box was long gone by the time we got it. I still have it and have never fired it either. I figured it's made it this long without being shot, may as well see what kind of value it will retain in another couple decades. As to the whole jamomatic thing, people who don't take care of their guns have jam problems. I learned to deer hunt with a Remington 742 .243 and my dad shot a Remington 740 in .270. In 30 years, neither of them have ever jammed. And my dad NEVER cleaned or oiled either one. I took them down and cleaning them a few years back. It was the first time they'd been taken down and cleaned since he bought them in the mid/late 70's. If a couple of these, which were also called jamomatics, can be used for 40 years without anything more than a squirt of remoil, well that tells you as to what is reliable and who simply doesn't understand semiautos. And yes, both were fired a multitude of times each year. My dad hunted with his .270 until about 4 years ago when I finally got him to upgrade to a 700 in .300wmag.
 
#24 ·
You are actually very fortunate he sold it before you bought it and regretted it.. I sold mine I made the the mistake of buying for 40.00 one time for 50.00. They are one that Winchester surely regretted ever allowing their name to be used on. They are truly a piece of crap.. I do not care if one or two claim theirs actually works..They won the lottery if it is true, and if they use it too much it will not work anymore..The insides are stamped cheap sheet metal parts..What would you expect from it..
 
#25 ·
The time and energy that went into it’s design, the men and women who produced it and fed their families with their wages probably had a different opinion of yours. In fact, as far as I can tell the only problem with this model is the loose nut behind the trigger.

The instructions that came with it are very detailed and specific for disassembly and reassembly, parts are readily available and while not a blued steel and walnut heirloom they are a utilitarian tool and deserve thought.

Heck, it’s a Winchester
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#27 · (Edited)
Imo who ever had issues never knew how to take it apart and clean it properly. The one I bought for $25 I was told would not cycle and jam. I was told by the owner it was cleaned regularly. When it apart and removed the trigger and bolt group it was packed solid with hard dried up grease, sand, dirt, and oil. It was the dirtiest gun I've ever seen. I don't know how the bolt was able to pull back and the trigger moved...but it did! After a complete clean it shoots flaessly. I would assume the owner thought cleaning was simply spraying it down with oil and wiping it off.
 
#28 ·
Imo who ever had issues never knew how to take it apart and clean it properly. The one I bought for $25 I was told would not cycle and jam. I was told by the owner it was cleaned regularly. When it apart and removed the trigger and bolt group it was packed solid with hard dried up grease, sand, dirt, and oil. It was the dirtiest gun I've ever seen. I don't know the bolt even was able to pull back and the trigger moved! After a complete clean it shoots flaessly. I would assume the owner thought cleaning was simply spaying it down with oil and wiping
 
#31 ·
Dad gave me one for Christmas when I was 14, I'm 61 presently. It was fairly banged up even then but we were po' boys so it was a freakin great Christmas!! I don't remember ever taking it down and cleaning it but it always shot good despite the trigger. IMO $150 is the top end and it would have to be pretty fine, they are just not collectible. A used 10/22 would probably be a better investment due to gobs of potential upgrades. Nonetheless, I'll never sell mine because Dad gave it to me - and i did clean it thoroughly recently and it still shoots great!