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Which of these scopes would you use for a cheap dedicated ARA 50 build?

Which of these budget scopes for ARA 50 yard competitions?

3.2K views 40 replies 19 participants last post by  mpolk  
#1 · (Edited)
Hi all,

I am looking at a higher magnification scope solely for 50 yard ARA matches. These are the 3 that I am considering but am open to suggestions.

Sightron TARGET 36x42 fixed BRD SII Scope TD1 - $519/seems to be sold out everywhere.
Athlon Argos BTR Gen 2 10-40x56 SFP - $459
Vector Optics Minotaur 12-60x60 SFP - $519

I currently have an Arken SHJ Gen2 4-16 FFP on my CZ 457 At-One 16" barrel that works ok but just does not get me as large of a sight picture as I THINK I want to see. I have never shot through a scope that is a higher than 25x power, I have also never competed in an ARA competition.


Do you have any experience with these scopes or ones in this price range?
 
#2 ·
Hi all,

I am looking at a higher magnification scope solely for 50 yard ARA matches. These are the 3 that I am considering but am open to suggestions.

Sightron TARGET 36x42 fixed BRD SII Scope TD1 - $519
Athlon Argos BTR Gen 2 10-40x56 SFP - $459
Vector Optics Minotaur 12-60x60 SFP - $519

I currently have an Arken SHJ Gen2 4-16 FFP on my CZ 457 At-One 16" barrel that works ok but just does not get me as large of a sight picture as I THINK I want to see. I have never shot through a scope that is a higher than 25x power, I have also never competed in an ARA competition.


Do you have any experience with these scopes or ones in this price range?
Sightron 36X..You can find them used in the $400 range. I used them for several years in ARA Unlimited.
 
#3 ·
Yeah I would go with the Sightron too. The Athlon is probably fine for Factoy Class @50 yds but I'm not sure I like the reticle. I like the floating dot but not all the hashmarks on the crosshairs. Although the hashmarks may come in handy for consistent hold off. I also don't like that short vertical crosshair on top.

Good luck in Factory Class. Feel free to chime in on our Chat thread or create a new thread if you have anything you're wondering about
 
#11 ·
Interesting . I find the Athlon reticle preferable . It is quite fine and does not present a lot of clutter . I like the short verticle line on top as well . This is by far my favorite reticle .

But , I think the glass on the Sightron will be better at 36x vs the Athlon at 36 x.

I have toe Athlon 10x40 . I preferred the reticle . Sightron is definitely a good choice .
 
#14 ·
My choice would also be the Sightron fixed 36X. My reasoning is this: until you reach a certain price point, variable scopes are going to become unusable before you reach maximum power, often well before. That has been my experience. There is a reason why top tier variable scopes are so expensive. The glass, the coatings, the precision of construction.... all the things that inexpensive scopes just can't match.

I own two Sightron SII 36X42 scopes. They are not my favorite fixed power scopes but at the price point they are the best you'll find and are better than the variables I've owned. The Sightron will do the job at a reasonable price.
 
#33 ·
My choice would also be the Sightron fixed 36X. My reasoning is this: until you reach a certain price point, variable scopes are going to become unusable before you reach maximum power, often well before. That has been my experience. There is a reason why top tier variable scopes are so expensive. The glass, the coatings, the precision of construction.... all the things that inexpensive scopes just can't match.

I own two Sightron SII 36X42 scopes. They are not my favorite fixed power scopes but at the price point they are the best you'll find and are better than the variables I've owned. The Sightron will do the job at a reasonable price.
This matches my experience. I have a couple of 36X SII. They work fine.
 
#16 ·
I don't think I'd ever heard of Vector Optics Minotaur. I'm sure doubs43 is probably right about the overall quality but if it's like the Arkens it's much better than most people think, especially for the price. If I could find one with this reticle I might roll the dice and try it. The illuminated floating dot would be great for shooting in the tunnel I use

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#17 ·
I've been using the Arken SH4j in 5x-25x. I paid right at $300 for it with discount. Works great, and useful at longer ranges as well. I'll probably add an unlimited gun later this year, and likely I'll just pick up another Arken for it. You don't need ultra quality glass for shooting at a two-color target, but you do need very accurate and repeatable turrets, and the Arken turrets are excellent. If benchrest is the only thing you plan to shoot the gun in, I agree with PWN, that the stadia intended for long range shooting just clutter up the scope at 50yds, but 98% of the rifles I've shot in the last 5 years were set up with those reticles, and I'm just used to it now. I'm only using the fine dot in the center in ARA, so the extra stadia don't distract me much. But the mil marks are useless in ARA shooting. If ARA is the only thing you shoot the gun in, then I'd opt for a scope with the same reticle he posted.
 
#20 ·
I have a Arken SH4 on my Kidd 10/22 and last range trip I was shooting at some ARA UL targets I had been shooting with my UL guns. I found the reticle to be hard to get on the dot. Maybe if it had more magnification or it was SFP it would be better for UL
 
#32 ·
My opinion (for what it’s worth) go with the Sightron. Here’s why, you’re using it at a fixed distance so having a variable power scope is a nonstarter, again IMHO. The reticle is less cluttered, it should give you a better sight picture and if you need to hold off it is easy by simply putting the dot or crosshair where you think you need to be. Sightrons are not made in China if that matters to you. Wish you the best of luck with your decision and let us know what you decide.

PS - If you get one try it out without mounting it, then if you don’t like it you can return it for one of the other ones.
 
#41 ·
I have a Sightron 36-42 and an Athlon Argos BTR 10-40-56 and it is a great budget scope, but no comparison (for benchrest) to the Sightron which is what the OP decided on, IMHO.

I will say that both have great customer service. Sightron also has great communications to go along with their above and beyond CS. Athlon appears to just replace a scope when it is sent to them with no communication, which is okay too, I guess. Sometimes it would be nice to know what they found, but they probably don't even look at it. Turn around time is good for both.