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What magnifaction scope would be best for NRL22 50-100 yard targets? Budget minded, clear enough to see the 100 yard metal hanger targets

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9.4K views 55 replies 19 participants last post by  Lee Barker  
#1 ·
I'm the proud owner of a super thrifty Rosi RS22 and I plan on using it for the NRL22 competition being a complete beginner here. (don't laugh)
I actually have a Beeman scope off of my BB Gun on it now...lol (you can laugh) hitting targets at 100 yards with it somewhat but its a cloudy old dirty scope and not worthy.
I really dont want to spend more than the gun is worth at $150...really if i can get by with under $50 even better.
something that will allow my bad vision to set on sight quicky and consistently.

Do I really need a 6-24x50? is that too big?
is 3-9x32 too small? my old eyes need some extra magnification!

FFP-is that appropriate at 100 yard max?
I probably want mildot? I dont know metric and the matches are't in metric either

Do i need illuminated optics? probably not for daytime matches with little to no shade.It might get cloudy on occasion, might be lits of bright sun

I saw some Westhunter that have decent prices and big numbers..anyone ever use them?..seem too cheap to be true..maybe they have cloudy leses?
Just any advice/personal experiences for a frugal beginner is appreciated.-budgeting under $100 here is preferred.
 
#2 ·
Wait until Cabela's puts their Covenant FFP 6-24 on sale. Usually for around $150.
I've run one for a while and it worked just fine. Only upgraded because a used Bushnell Match Pro came my way for a good price.

Having used both I actually think the MOA reticle works better for NRL22 but I'm still adjusting to Mil.
 
#4 ·
Take a look at this page, a useful introduction. They address the issue of what scope to use. My personal recommendation is do not be penny wise and pound foolish on buying a scope. Get the best you can. It will last a life time, increase in value and can be moved from one rifle to another one.

 
#5 ·
No! You don't need a 24X scope for shooting targets at 100 yards; not even for small targets. A 24X will not hurt you; you can always dial down to a lower power. But a 6X WILL hurt you. You need to dial down to 4X- and 2 or3X is even better. At 6X, its hard to find a target at 25 yards or less. I'd say 3-9X is marginal, I'd want at least 12X for the 100 yard targets- 15X would be much better. And IMO, you need a parallax adjustment. A small target at 100 yards can be an easy miss if not corrected for parallax. You will want a FFP scope, I believe. And you don't want Mil-Dots; you need a Mil reticle to see the tenths mil marks. Illuminated reticles are not necessary. You will find that 'resolution' is as much or more important than power.

What I've described is likely not found for $100. Sorry. I don't have much experience with scopes like you described. But get what you can (used is a possibility) and go shoot with it. You will have a lot of fun- hit or miss.
 
#6 ·
A 4-16x will fit perfect.
I prefer mrad by a mile but. Nothing wrong with moa.
Illumination? Nope not needed either.
Reticles you will need to shoot well when a stage calls for using reticle and no adjustment allowed so a Christmas tree reticle is a must have. Once you get some matches I. And you will definitely want to upgrade the rifle but if you get a decent scope the first time then all you need to do is move the scope to new rifle.
Good luck
 
#8 ·
A 4-16x will fit perfect.
I prefer mrad by a mile but. Nothing wrong with moa.
Illumination? Nope not needed either.
Reticles you will need to shoot well when a stage calls for using reticle and no adjustment allowed so a Christmas tree reticle is a must have. Once you get some matches I. And you will definitely want to upgrade the rifle but if you get a decent scope the first time then all you need to do is move the scope to new rifle.
Good luck
so save up a bit before i buy a cheap scope---any brands to stay away from?
 
#12 ·
I mean I just upgraded to a Gen 3 Razor 6-36x and it's amazing! Love the extra magnification for the KYL rack, shot a 10 target KYL (5" down to 1/4") at 50 yards off a 5 gallon bucket and did it maxed out at 36x. The extra magnification makes it so much easier to see the 1" to 1/4" targets
You can always dial down, but if you need more magnification, your out of luck

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#15 ·
I much prefer MOA myself but most you find will be mil.
TroGlo makes a 3-9x42 Eminus with a FFP MOA reticle that has side focus. Should be available for $150 or so. I looked at one and thought the glass was pretty good.
Burris has some high mag scopes like the FFII and Droptine for under $200. But I think a basic mil dot reticle is the best they offer.
There are lots of others for more money, but the advice not to skimp on your glass is very sound.
 
#17 ·
Mil/MRAD is wayyyyyy easier to deal with than MOA. How fast can you multiply by 4 vs how fast can you multiply by 10? In other words, how many clicks is 12 MOA vs 3 Mils? I recently replaced a Mil/MRAD scope with a MOA scope (to get a better reticle) on my silhouette rifle and the MOA is driving me nuts. MRAD is so much simpler.

FFP is a requirement for this game. Period.

I generally run 12-14x during matches, except for stages with extra tiny targets and in the prone position.
 
#29 ·
Mil/MRAD is wayyyyyy easier to deal with than MOA. How fast can you multiply by 4 vs how fast can you multiply by 10? In other words, how many clicks is 12 MOA vs 3 Mils? I recently replaced a Mil/MRAD scope with a MOA scope (to get a better reticle) on my silhouette rifle and the MOA is driving me nuts. MRAD is so much simpler.

FFP is a requirement for this game. Period.

I generally run 12-14x during matches, except for stages with extra tiny targets and in the prone position.
I would think, as a complete nub, that since the match is in yards that MOA would be better...I'm not going to be shooting any other matchex except maybe the rimfire challenge
 
#18 ·
I agree with the folks saying FFP and at least 16x.

One thing I will say that might not be typical is that I like a thicker reticle. A really thin one is slower to pick up on lower power. None of the targets are under 1/2moa so having a 1/8moa thick reticle is overly fine, ideally I'd have at least a 1/4moa thick one. I believe my newest is 0.1mil which works nicely.
I also prefer a floating center dot like on that Cabela's Covenant and the Match Pro I replaced it with. it makes shooting offhand easier, I always use the turrets offhand, because you can "block out" the rest of the reticle.
 
#22 ·
I Have 3 Riton X1 Conquer 6-24x50mm scopes and have them mounted on a Browning T-bolt target, CZ 457 MTR and CZ 557 Varmint. They simply work and work well. No issues and as of this writing and can be found for around 230.00 US fiat bucks off eBay. I pulled a Cyclops Joe on all three before mounting them. They will do fine in for what your looking for. On the 557, I have used it out to 350 yards with no problems and they always return to zero and track like a scope costing 2 to 3 times it's price. Just my 2 cents...........
 
#26 ·
Like Big Scopes with adjustable optics for 22, because I shoot my 22's from 10 yards to 200 yards
AND BECAUSE I LIKE BIG SCOPES AND I CAN NOT LIE,

XT22 BSA 6.5X24 40mm with sunshade
a few summers ago I was hunting horsefly at my 50 yard targets after I got board of punching paper, PA horsefly almost to much game for a 22 LOL

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#31 ·
So what can you tell me about these "quick shot" scopes--who is using them and for what?
They look budget friendly, though I've never seen on in all the NRL22 stuff I've studied in the last 2 weeks.
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#33 ·
MOA doesn't mean yards or inches. There's nothing metric about MRAD. It is a pure coincidence that 1 MOA is an inch (1.047") at 100 yards.

1 Mil is always 1/1000 of the distance to the target. 1 MOA is 1/3600. Figure that in your head. Mils are always much smaller easier to deal with numbers.

Once you get used to Mil/MRAD, you'll never want to go back. But if that's all you've ever known, stick with it.
 
#35 ·
MOA doesn't mean yards or inches. There's nothing metric about MRAD. It is a pure coincidence that 1 MOA is an inch (1.047") at 100 yards.

1 Mil is always 1/1000 of the distance to the target. 1 MOA is 1/3600. Figure that in your head. Mils are always much smaller easier to deal with numbers.

Once you get used to Mil/MRAD, you'll never want to go back. But if that's all you've ever known, stick with it.
I will have to try both at some point--an inch at 100 yards seems simple. I'll study more about the two.
 
#38 ·
Some years back a local club had 100 yard egg shoots with a 10x limit on scopes. The course of fire was at 5 eggs three times. Few shot 100%. If you were young and had good eyes to start with, the ten power limit was fine. For us old people, we struggled at times. I have a fixed 12x Leupold A.O. which I use for our tactical matches which have targets from 25 yards out to 300 yards. I use the mil dots and it works out well for me. I offer this for whatever help it might provide.
 
#39 ·
Would like to know why I messed up getting MOA vs Mil. Bought the Athlon 6-24 FFP and Athlon 10-40 SFP. In both cases on eBay at least, the Mil versions were at least $25 or even cheaper (less desirable) in each version. The FFP at 25 and even 50 yards has a too thick reticle for the fine aiming points being used. The SFP seems perfect with a super small dot that stays that way. Now for dope, my standard velocity ammo drops around 7 inches at 100 and both scopes are easy to dial up or count up 7 slashes using the reticle. At 200 yards I need 24 MOA to dial in. Once again, easy to dial up or count up the slashes. Both have the zero stop making it easy to go back home. Not sure what either is in Mils but it could obviously be done as most tables give both. In my 50 years of shooting various calibers it was always discussed in inches at various ranges so I am familiar with that. Just checked the 6-24 and the max adjustment is 18 mils vs 60 moa so no winner there.

I do like the FFP for a short to long range hunting rifle where the chest on an antelope is not hard to put the larger reticle on and the holdover remains constant on all powers.
 
#40 ·
This is about NRL22 50-100 yard per the OP. Not antelope hunting. NRL22 is a game.

If all you know is MOA, stick to it. If you like SFP, stick to it. If you like that scope, stick to it. I'm something of an Athlon fanboy so I'm not picking on the brand.

Those of us that compete have figured out that MRAD/MIL and FFP works better than MOA and SFP.
 
#45 ·
My own experience indicated that a clear scope beats a high power scope, all other things being equal. Higher power is actually a disadvantage on the short targets since movement appears very magnified. I think a 12 power max magnification is all you can really need at 100 yards since the NRL targets aren't terribly small. The big thing is - see your targets and know your holdover.
Your mileage may vary.
Good luck!
 
#46 ·
My own experience indicated that a clear scope beats a high power scope, all other things being equal. Higher power is actually a disadvantage on the short targets since movement appears very magnified. I think a 12 power max magnification is all you can really need at 100 yards since the NRL targets aren't terribly small. The big thing is - see your targets and know your holdover.
Your mileage may vary.
Good luck!
Nrl targets are as small as a 1/4 inch up to 6 inches depending on distance. I use a 5-30 scope and use into the 20’s power range frequently. Key is to have a throw lever for fast power changes.