Bersa looks similar.

 

Thanks Bob. I'll look them up.

 

Nothing modern, but FEG made some in the 60s and 70s, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...BgQAQ&url=http://www.hungariae.com/FegAP22.htm&usg=AOvVaw2s-xLxguFBJLztj9bIrT_-

 

Nothing modern, but FEG made some in the 60s and 70s, View attachment 360874

Thanks

 

Yes I think that covers it really feg and bersa thunder is the modern spin. Makarov was the communist spin but different cartridge.

 

Nothing modern, but FEG made some in the 60s and 70s, View attachment 360874

Funny, I just opened my new American Rifleman magazine, I always go to the back page first, and there it is, an article on this Feg pistol. LOL

 

I have a old standard stainless interarms ppk in 380. It is in good nick and box and paperwork. 2 mags one flush one with finger base plate. Like to have a french manhuran post war blued but never turned one up. Simpson's Ltd. has many ppk and pps pistols but pretty pricey anymore. I had a bersa thunder .380. It was a pretty nice copy for the money. Sold it to a friend who wanted it. One of the nicer pieces bersa makes, and ppk while very sexy little gun bites me unless I'm really careful.

 

Erma-Excam back in the '80s had something called the RX-22. Not really a "clone," as no Walther parts interchange including the magazine, but the physical resemblance is unmistakable. Amazingly for such a cheap gun, mine is AT LEAST as reliable and accurate as my real Walther PPK .22. If you happen to run across one of these in working condition, don't automatically write it off.

 

Erma-Excam back in the '80s had something called the RX-22. Not really a "clone," as no Walther parts interchange including the magazine, but the physical resemblance is unmistakable. Amazingly for such a cheap gun, mine is AT LEAST as reliable and accurate as my real Walther PPK .22. If you happen to run across one of these in working condition, don't automatically write it off.
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My father kept a RX-22 as his truck gun. It runs like a top. My mom still has it as her home defense rig. She preferred it over a real PPK/s.

 

I inherited from my buddy a FEG PPK .380 clone. I have no use for it whatsoever, but it’s worth so little, it’s probably not worth the high cost of shipping a handgun, so it sits. Seems well enough made, obviously aluminum frame, so a good bit lighter than a Walther.

 

I can feel the slide bite just looking at this picture.

 

Targa/Excam/Tanfoglio made some excellent.22 pistols. I have the target model of which little info exists with the 12 round magazine. Spare 10 round magazines were readily available a year or so ago cheap enough so bought a couple to modify. Mine shoots very well and is trouble free with a nice trigger.

 

As I recall there was a gun called "Indian" that was a copy of the PPK.

 

The Radon P64 is a close copy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FB_P-64

 

I wonder if 9mm Makarov ammo will become more expensive and/or harder to find now that russian ammo is banned from import into the US? If so, copies in 9mm Makarov may be shot less often.

 

Looks like my PA-63 may never get shot.

 

It's rather expensive currently. I imagine it will increase. Seilor and beloit currently is coming out of the czech republic but in short supply. Haven't seen any for a bit. I don't have a makarov. I do have a cz 52 tokarev 7.62x25. I have a brick or so of that ammo. Again seilor and beloit. Brass cased but originally a sub gun round. Quite hot stuff. Mainly collector pistol not really that fun to shoot. Definitely will get your attention. As will makarov. Not really soft shooting pretty snappy stuff.

 

I have no experience with the PPK but my wife has a rather fancy Walther made PPK/s in 380. The best way I can describe it is that it is a very well made gun that is a nasty little beast to shoot.

 

...my wife has a rather fancy Walther made PPK/s in 380. The best way I can describe it is that it is a very well made gun that is a nasty little beast to shoot.

That's about as good a description of shooting a little Walther as I've ever seen.

 

I think SIG made a PPK clone.

I have a 380 Walther PPK/S and love it. Just a dream to shoot and the single action trigger is excellent !
That said I like shooting my 32 Frommer Stop more

 

Never shot a Walther, but the Bersa 380 cc is a nifty little pistol. Quite similar to the Walther, and feeds hp ammo well. Sights are almost non existent on cc model though.

 

Rosscoe, you didn't say, and I don't believe anyone has asked, but what do you want this gun for?

If you're looking for a smallish gun for defensive carry, there are much better guns than the PPK available today, and probably at better prices, too.

But if you're looking to experience the mystique of owning and handling the PPK, and the joy of shooting one, there IS a very affordable alternative that might work even better for you--the Japanese-made, Walther-branded CO2/BB PPK/s. It's not perfect but it's a LOT of fun for the money and very economical to shoot. It'll keep most, perhaps all of its shots on a soda can at 10 yards. I've had a ball shooting mine in my basement whenever the mood strikes me. Well worth checking out:

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Rosscoe, you didn't say, and I don't believe anyone has asked, but what do you want this gun for?

If you're looking for a smallish gun for defensive carry, there are much better guns than the PPK available today, and probably at better prices, too.

But if you're looking to experience the mystique of owning and handling the PPK, and the joy of shooting one, there IS a very affordable alternative that might work even better for you--the Japanese-made, Walther-branded CO2/BB PPK/s. It's not perfect but it's a LOT of fun for the money and very economical to shoot. It'll keep most, perhaps all of its shots on a soda can at 10 yards. I've had a ball shooting mine in my basement whenever the mood strikes me. Well worth checking out:

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Thank you, this might be just the ticket. I'll check them out.

 

Heres another, a 380 FEG

 

Sig 230 was close .380. Significantly bigger pistol. I have stainless S.L. model. Blued was nice to frame is aluminum slide steel. Made for lighter pistol. Nice shooter either one. Bigger pistol made slide bite a thing of the past if you don't grip really high like a polymer pistol. Then you'll still get that familiar red drip where bark is removed.

 

I agree the Sig P230 is a superior gun

 

Nice mine is buried somewhere. To lazy to dig it out. I haven't shot mine in some time but yes compared to my ppk/s rather shoot the 230sl. With the weight of all steel pretty soft shooter.

 

Top one is a 232, better sights. But imho, the best 380 from that era is the Beretta 84 Cheetah or the FN140(aka BDC)

 

I had a beretta 8045 I traded away. The browning .380 I almost grabbed in stainless beautiful pistol made by beretta if I'm not mistaken, missed out on that one too. I was an another attempt at bankruptcy by way of high powers at the time. Jealous those are all beautiful.

 

Yes the Browning is made by Beretta , just a more traditional slide/ ejection port. I just tumbled across them all when i had cash in my pocket.
I dont carry any of them . The only 380 I ever carry is a Ruger LCP 1.0

 

Another Feg, makarov,

 

Smallest I go is beretta 3020 for milk runs, pocket carry. Do ca

rry a walther pps for general carry but it's 9mm.

 

Feg is under rated. At one time they made very nice clones and even there own strange amalgamation, such as Smith 59 esque rear end high power front with decocker 9pk. Kareen is probably a Israeli built with feg parts. The fun is in the mystery.

 

Since we're talking about FEGs, the one I posted a pic of, and that I inherited from my buddy, is marked 9mmM, but I have read that many of these Makarov's were converted to .380...without any markings denoting the conversion (!). Any quick and easy way to tell, short of 9mm M or .380 headspace gauges? I have assumed this one was converted and unmarked, since my friend always said it was a .380.

 

Take a casting of the chamber

 

I own the Bersa in .22 LR and I've fired a co-worker's Bersa Thunder in .380 ACP. Coincidentally, I have the CO2 BB gun copy of the PPK, which has a longer grip than normal to contain the CO2 cartridge.

The most fun of the bunch is the .22 LR version, if you don't need self defense power. Accuracy of the .22 LR version beats the snot out of the CO2 gun, too.

Bersa Thunder 22 Matte , about $280 before tax in my part of the world.


My "Firestorm" labeled Bersa in .22 LR.